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  • E Edward Aymami

    I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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    Rick York
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    If I were you I would figure out where I wanted to live and then look at job ads in that area. That will give you a fairly good indication.

    "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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    • E Edward Aymami

      I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      Oh and don't forget the blockchain. It's tech trying to find itself, but it's coming too. And for those that think it's not, the dotcom bust happened and yet we're still on a website. It's just the law of nature. We get something new, people freak out. Boom, bad stuff. Build it back up the way it should've been built the first time. Nobody used Windows 1.0 either, but blockchain is coming. Get on board or get left behind.

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      • E Edward Aymami

        I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        Annnnnnnd one more. :) If you want to just leverage your existing skills, you could do so in the context of a cloud provider. Sure, you've used SQL Server, but have you used Amazon's RDS on top of it? More and more companies are using the cloud for just about everything. It's like the franchising of the tech infrastructure world. Infrastructure in a box. There's AWS, Azure, and even Google now all have their own offerings. So does Oracle, but they suck. ;)

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          Oh and don't forget the blockchain. It's tech trying to find itself, but it's coming too. And for those that think it's not, the dotcom bust happened and yet we're still on a website. It's just the law of nature. We get something new, people freak out. Boom, bad stuff. Build it back up the way it should've been built the first time. Nobody used Windows 1.0 either, but blockchain is coming. Get on board or get left behind.

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          Nelek
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          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

          Build it back up the way it should've been built the first time.

          Are you sure we have done this with the internet and the dotcoms...? :sigh:

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          • E Edward Aymami

            I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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            Single Step Debugger
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            Based on your experience with SQL Server and C# I would suggest you stay within the Microsoft ecosystem. Namely - asp.net core. You can focus on Blazor because it doesn't require JavaScript. You will also need some accompanying stuff like CSS and HTML, but you probably already know that. And a piece of advice - don't buy the cheapest books on any of these subjects. They are cheap for a reason.

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              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              Build it back up the way it should've been built the first time.

              Are you sure we have done this with the internet and the dotcoms...? :sigh:

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              Touché :laugh:

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              • E Edward Aymami

                I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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                peterkmx
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                I think that when planning skills upgrade in software development, it is also necessary to include skills related to Git, Github, Bitbucket and some basic use of Jira. Of course "it depends" :-), in ecosystems which I experienced this was "a baseline" and I expect these to be quite common ...

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                • E Edward Aymami

                  I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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                  Don't forget soft skills such as conflict resolution and project and/or time management. Employers are always looking for these types of skills.

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                  • E Edward Aymami

                    I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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                    Southmountain
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                    become a scrum master and change career track to a project manager...

                    diligent hands rule....

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                    • E Edward Aymami

                      I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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                      megaadam
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                      I would suggest you to leave your comfort zone and step away from the Microsoft backyard... There is so much more out there. Pick one! For server side programming Golang, Python and C++ For Web/Client: NodeJS For Client desktop For example: C++/Qt For Client, apps: Kotlin

                      "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                        Don't forget soft skills such as conflict resolution and project and/or time management. Employers are always looking for these types of skills.

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                        megaadam
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                        obermd wrote:

                        conflict resolution

                        Elephanting overrated! :mad: :cool:

                        "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                          I would suggest you to leave your comfort zone and step away from the Microsoft backyard... There is so much more out there. Pick one! For server side programming Golang, Python and C++ For Web/Client: NodeJS For Client desktop For example: C++/Qt For Client, apps: Kotlin

                          "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                          trønderen
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                          megaadam wrote:

                          For server side programming Golang, Python and C++ For Web/Client: NodeJS

                          Yes, I guess "leaving your comfort zone" is an appropriate description.

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                          • E Edward Aymami

                            I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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                            maze3
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                            Based on existing skills, expand some others pointed out, so like connecting with cloud services. Azure or Amazon if like database work, then Linq (method or query syntax) and database as code stuff (code first) in either C# (i assume VP.Net has same support) and then connecting and interacting with the various cloud storage solutions: Blob, Cosmos (if not renamed this week :doh: ), and Tables (I like the Tables for small flexible working storage) And then C# 11, and the very quick jumps of major versions in c#6 was 2015, now is c# 11. Syntactic sugar, some I am a bit nope, but some like returned named tuples, instead of creating yet another object or returning Item1,Item2 Figure out the WHAT not the HOW, what do you want to make, then look up what languages or features can help make. If an employer is demanding language X, but you can comfortably say well this language is better suited, better supported, and longer lasting, and I can start working on it today, or sure, take risk on that which young dev moves company in 6 months, and then you stuck hiring someone at x2 because no one wants to to that language.

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                            • E Edward Aymami

                              I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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                              BernardIE5317
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                              I can not offer assistance re/ your concern but may I please inquire as you are a Microsoft employee would you happen to know the number of engineers assigned to the development of Visual Studio . This is something I have wondered about for some time . Thank You Kindly - Best

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                              • S Single Step Debugger

                                Based on your experience with SQL Server and C# I would suggest you stay within the Microsoft ecosystem. Namely - asp.net core. You can focus on Blazor because it doesn't require JavaScript. You will also need some accompanying stuff like CSS and HTML, but you probably already know that. And a piece of advice - don't buy the cheapest books on any of these subjects. They are cheap for a reason.

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                                MikeCO10
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                                I think this is really a great answer, building on the existing skillset in the question.

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                                • E Edward Aymami

                                  I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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                                  MikeCO10
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                                  Edward, The way you asked the question gets you a lot of answers that reflect the experience of the responders. Skills are only a part of the equation, and I don't think it's of value for any of us to just spew out a list of the latest or greatest skills. The industry is large enough so you can find 'demand' with a widely varied skill set. As someone said, there are really good Cobol jobs that are in demand due to the scarcity of Cobol programmers. What I'd ask of you is: What is your work experience at this point? If you've been around since GWB, you're not starting out in your career. What do you want to do? Small team, large team, challenging, comfortable, etc. Are you looking to be a DBA, Front end, or back end programmer? Desktop, web, phone apps? 'Very good with SQLs' - on a CRUD level or design and interdependency level? It's a relatively easy jump to Postgres or MySQL but again, what are your goals in that case? 'Moderate acquaintances with C#/VB.net'. With the vastness of .net languages, that's not telling me a lot. Industry-wise, my thoughts are that Web/Cloud is the way to go. I'd forget AI and Web 3.0. IoT and VR are promising but those could be really tough skills to take on, depending on your experience. Microsoft: "Where do you want to go today?"

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                                    I would suggest you to leave your comfort zone and step away from the Microsoft backyard... There is so much more out there. Pick one! For server side programming Golang, Python and C++ For Web/Client: NodeJS For Client desktop For example: C++/Qt For Client, apps: Kotlin

                                    "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                                    MikeCO10
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                                    When it comes to comfort zone, that's like going from being a passenger on a plane to standing on the wing, lol.

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                                    • E Edward Aymami

                                      I am trying to upgrade my skills. I would like opinions from you guys about which languages are in demand by employers. I have been part of the "evil empire" (Microsoft), since GW Basic was their first product. I am very good with Access, SQL, SQL Server but not really any others. I have a moderate acquaintance with C# and VB.Net. What other types of Software/Database skills do you think I need to learn that would help me find a job?

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                                      Joseph T Adams
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                                      I am slowly digging my way out of the same situation. Here is the skill set I'd be shooting for: * Web development using ASP.NET Core. Including HTML, Javascript, and CSS. (Learn these BEFORE attempting heavy frameworks like Angular or React.) * Docker and Kubernetes. * Basic Cloud technologies such as storage, compute, lambdas, etc. * Learn your way around Linux and open-source tooling. You'll interact with these in the modern world whether you want to or not. * As others suggested, learn what employers in your market want, and develop at least basic familiarity with these. Good luck (to all of us).

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                                        Based on your experience with SQL Server and C# I would suggest you stay within the Microsoft ecosystem. Namely - asp.net core. You can focus on Blazor because it doesn't require JavaScript. You will also need some accompanying stuff like CSS and HTML, but you probably already know that. And a piece of advice - don't buy the cheapest books on any of these subjects. They are cheap for a reason.

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                                        Slow Eddie
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                                        could you recommend some that are not "cheap"?

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                                          I would suggest you to leave your comfort zone and step away from the Microsoft backyard... There is so much more out there. Pick one! For server side programming Golang, Python and C++ For Web/Client: NodeJS For Client desktop For example: C++/Qt For Client, apps: Kotlin

                                          "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                                          Single Step Debugger
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                                          IMHO jumping on C++ with just VB/C# background will be painful and not verry productive. This is not some new language, it's a different mindset. Unless you are in your early 20, I wouldn't recommend that.

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