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The TRUTH(tm) is finally out about Chris (and the others)

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  • D DRHuff

    70% of the earth is covered in water. Almost 0% of that water is carbonated. Therefore the earth is basically flat!

    If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.

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    :-D

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      My understanding is that flat-earthers (at the original level) simply state that you shouldn't believe what you haven't seen for yourself. I haven't seen Australia, yet I have seen no proof against it either. It appears that most "flat-earthers" today are not adhering to the original precepts of the founders. For example, have they ever seen an "Australian" being paid by NASA? I think not.

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      Do you think they would pay me if I sent an invoice?

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        My understanding is that flat-earthers (at the original level) simply state that you shouldn't believe what you haven't seen for yourself. I haven't seen Australia, yet I have seen no proof against it either. It appears that most "flat-earthers" today are not adhering to the original precepts of the founders. For example, have they ever seen an "Australian" being paid by NASA? I think not.

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        Kent Sharkey
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        I know “following logic” isn’t in their game plan (or capabilities)

        TTFN - Kent

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        • K Kent Sharkey

          Flat Earthers Claim Australia Doesn't Exist And People Who Live There Are Actors Paid By NASA[^] I'd think/hope that the flat Earthers are just continuing a not-terribly-funny joke, but it does seem some of them are true believers. (I'm just not sure about that post - whatever that Internet Law is about 'you can't invent a hoax that won't be believed' seems applicable)

          TTFN - Kent

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          If the Earth was flat, cats would have pushed everything off it by now ...

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          • K Kent Sharkey

            Flat Earthers Claim Australia Doesn't Exist And People Who Live There Are Actors Paid By NASA[^] I'd think/hope that the flat Earthers are just continuing a not-terribly-funny joke, but it does seem some of them are true believers. (I'm just not sure about that post - whatever that Internet Law is about 'you can't invent a hoax that won't be believed' seems applicable)

            TTFN - Kent

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            Super Lloyd
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            I have been saying that for ages! But it's a really hard sale when one live in Australia! :O ;P

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              My understanding is that flat-earthers (at the original level) simply state that you shouldn't believe what you haven't seen for yourself. I haven't seen Australia, yet I have seen no proof against it either. It appears that most "flat-earthers" today are not adhering to the original precepts of the founders. For example, have they ever seen an "Australian" being paid by NASA? I think not.

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              Daniel Pfeffer
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              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

              For example, have they ever seen an "Australian" being paid by NASA? I think not.

              They've probably seen it on the 'net. Doesn't that count? :-\

              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                If the Earth was flat, cats would have pushed everything off it by now ...

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                :laugh: One of the reasons I like them.

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                • K Kent Sharkey

                  Flat Earthers Claim Australia Doesn't Exist And People Who Live There Are Actors Paid By NASA[^] I'd think/hope that the flat Earthers are just continuing a not-terribly-funny joke, but it does seem some of them are true believers. (I'm just not sure about that post - whatever that Internet Law is about 'you can't invent a hoax that won't be believed' seems applicable)

                  TTFN - Kent

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                  Actors or reptilians? That distinction is important. Seems more realistic if they were reptilians maybe with mind implants which are controlled by the daleks.

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                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                    My understanding is that flat-earthers (at the original level) simply state that you shouldn't believe what you haven't seen for yourself. I haven't seen Australia, yet I have seen no proof against it either. It appears that most "flat-earthers" today are not adhering to the original precepts of the founders. For example, have they ever seen an "Australian" being paid by NASA? I think not.

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                    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                    My understanding is that flat-earthers (at the original level) simply state that you shouldn't believe what you haven't seen for yourself.

                    It is based on religious creationism. Various attempts have existed for a long time to demonstrate it but only demonstrate a lack of scientific principles. The current iteration is the following. The Curious History of The International Flat Earth Society | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine[^]

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                      Actors or reptilians? That distinction is important. Seems more realistic if they were reptilians maybe with mind implants which are controlled by the daleks.

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                      jschell wrote:

                      with mind implants which are controlled by the daleks.

                      :doh: :doh: The Daleks? Mind implants are controlled by Bill Gates... They implanted it with the covid vaccine.

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                        My understanding is that flat-earthers (at the original level) simply state that you shouldn't believe what you haven't seen for yourself.

                        It is based on religious creationism. Various attempts have existed for a long time to demonstrate it but only demonstrate a lack of scientific principles. The current iteration is the following. The Curious History of The International Flat Earth Society | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine[^]

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                        trønderen
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                        Maybe there are honest flatearthers, most likely in the US of A or in England (where the society was first established). The Norwegian chapter is a pronounced parody, very much like the pastafarians ("Church of the flying spaghetti monster"). They deliberately present the most ridiculous view, very much tongue-in-cheek, not at all trying to hide it. Has Wikipedia had a spring clean, throwing out flat earth stuff? I was convinced that last time I looked, the Flat Earth Society had its own Wikipedia page, not just a section in a page whose main purpose is to debunk it. I remember it having a link to Norwegian Wikipedia, where the Norwegian chapter was presented. That may be a couple of years ago. Now, I find only small traces; the Norwegian chapter isn't mentioned at all. For the Norwegian chapter, no debunking was required - it stood out as a perfect debunker themselves. If you were a true flat earth believer, you would feel very uncomfortable in the Norwegian chapter :-) And I am still waiting for the first mountain climbing group to take the name 'Steep Earth Society' :-)

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                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                          My understanding is that flat-earthers (at the original level) simply state that you shouldn't believe what you haven't seen for yourself.

                          It is based on religious creationism. Various attempts have existed for a long time to demonstrate it but only demonstrate a lack of scientific principles. The current iteration is the following. The Curious History of The International Flat Earth Society | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine[^]

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                          jschell wrote:

                          It is based on religious creationism.

                          I have seen no evidence of that.

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                            jschell wrote:

                            with mind implants which are controlled by the daleks.

                            :doh: :doh: The Daleks? Mind implants are controlled by Bill Gates... They implanted it with the covid vaccine.

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            Nelek wrote:

                            Mind implants are controlled by Bill Gates... They implanted it with the covid vaccine.

                            Ha! That's just what THEY want you to think. Wake up, sheeple! :laugh:


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                            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                              Nelek wrote:

                              Mind implants are controlled by Bill Gates... They implanted it with the covid vaccine.

                              Ha! That's just what THEY want you to think. Wake up, sheeple! :laugh:


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                              I think we do really need an sarcasm / irony emojy... :rolleyes: :-D :laugh:

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                jschell wrote:

                                It is based on religious creationism.

                                I have seen no evidence of that.

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                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                I have seen no evidence of that.

                                Where the evidence you need is what?

                                "Shenton soon constructed a cosmology, based partly on his interpretation of Genesis"

                                [

                                Samuel Shenton

                                ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Shenton)[^]

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                                  jschell wrote:

                                  with mind implants which are controlled by the daleks.

                                  :doh: :doh: The Daleks? Mind implants are controlled by Bill Gates... They implanted it with the covid vaccine.

                                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                  Nelek wrote:

                                  They implanted it with the covid vaccine.

                                  That just extended the implants to everyone.

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                                  by Bill Gates

                                  But he is a puppet nothing more.

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                                    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                    I have seen no evidence of that.

                                    Where the evidence you need is what?

                                    "Shenton soon constructed a cosmology, based partly on his interpretation of Genesis"

                                    [

                                    Samuel Shenton

                                    ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Shenton)[^]

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    " Modern flat Earth belief originated with the English writer Samuel Rowbotham (1816–1884). " -- Modern flat Earth beliefs - Wikipedia[^] However, I'm not seeing references to some points brought up in... Who Started the Flat Earth Conspiracy Theory, How Many Believe This, and What Do They Believe? - YouTube[^] At any rate, Rowbotham appears to have been rather inconsistent in his statements. Samuel Shenton was more than a hundred years later and seems not to have followed Rowbotham very directly.

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                                      Nelek wrote:

                                      They implanted it with the covid vaccine.

                                      That just extended the implants to everyone.

                                      Nelek wrote:

                                      by Bill Gates

                                      But he is a puppet nothing more.

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                                      jschell wrote:

                                      But he is a puppet nothing more.

                                      I recommend you Upgrade (2018) - IMDb[^]

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        " Modern flat Earth belief originated with the English writer Samuel Rowbotham (1816–1884). " -- Modern flat Earth beliefs - Wikipedia[^] However, I'm not seeing references to some points brought up in... Who Started the Flat Earth Conspiracy Theory, How Many Believe This, and What Do They Believe? - YouTube[^] At any rate, Rowbotham appears to have been rather inconsistent in his statements. Samuel Shenton was more than a hundred years later and seems not to have followed Rowbotham very directly.

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                                        jschell
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                                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                        Modern flat Earth belief

                                        However the flat earth society, which is what current comments are about, started in 1950. The link that I already posted. The Curious History of The International Flat Earth Society | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine[^] The belief has existed before that and every reference I have seen, before that, was originated and popularized by religious creationism. https://www.skeptic.com/insight/flat-earth-conspiracy-theory/[^]

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                                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                          Modern flat Earth belief

                                          However the flat earth society, which is what current comments are about, started in 1950. The link that I already posted. The Curious History of The International Flat Earth Society | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine[^] The belief has existed before that and every reference I have seen, before that, was originated and popularized by religious creationism. https://www.skeptic.com/insight/flat-earth-conspiracy-theory/[^]

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          Contrariwise, the OP says only "Flat Earthers" in general, not one particular sect, and I responded concerning they who can be traced back to the 1800s.

                                          jschell wrote:

                                          originated and popularized by religious creationism

                                          That is not what I see. Though it does seem that Rowbotham wasn't above throwing some of that in after the fact, it doesn't appear to be the origin of his concept. From what I can tell, Rowbotham should not have put much stock into biblical references, but it's not like he was terribly consistent overall. Others who followed him seem to have had a greater or lesser leaning in that direction. Bearing mind that Youtube and Wikipedia may not be the most accurate depictions of any particular subject.

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