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VS 2022 is not C friendly

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  • J jmaida

    tried that quotes still no go

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    David ONeil
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    Like Jeremy, I can guarantee it isn't something on VS's end. It is responsible for more pieces of software than you or I can count to in a day. It must be something on GLFW's end with malformed headers. Does the header immediately include another header that is at another location? Is that malformed? Go that direction or another with GLFW taking responsibility, quit blaming VS. Build the code in my article on your end and go through all the instructions. Then create a GLFW project starting one file at a time without using any CMAKE or any other shortcuts. You will figure it out that way. You will never figure it out just by blaming VS.

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      Like Jeremy, I can guarantee it isn't something on VS's end. It is responsible for more pieces of software than you or I can count to in a day. It must be something on GLFW's end with malformed headers. Does the header immediately include another header that is at another location? Is that malformed? Go that direction or another with GLFW taking responsibility, quit blaming VS. Build the code in my article on your end and go through all the instructions. Then create a GLFW project starting one file at a time without using any CMAKE or any other shortcuts. You will figure it out that way. You will never figure it out just by blaming VS.

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      jmaida
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      I will. Thank you. I blame VS because 1. Have 2 copies of exactly the same C file. 2. Put them into VS "exactly" the same way (here is where the rub is, because VS makes that more complicated than it should be as "exactly" is not what has happened) 3. one works fine, the other does not. 4. Did a difference on .project files. Not "exactly" the same. That is what I am trying to resolve. If it is user error then shame on VS for making it easy to do.

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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        So you're the type that argues all day long - got it. You may wish to read your original post again. Clearly, you think that's not ranting. It is... but whatever.

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        jmaida
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        I do not like to argue all day long. I am looking for helpful input. I have received it and I have taking everyone's advice, but I still cannot get VS to behave. Frustrating. OK. You can call it ranting. So what. I am an extremely experienced C programmer (I have also written code in C, Fortran, Cobol, Algol, PL/I ...) as well. Writing C code since K&R first publication, so feel qualified to complain. I am retired now and doing some experimenting using GLFW's VS libraries to facilitate porting a large body of work to VS for programmers at a former employer. I will calmly say VS is not a user/programmer friendly application. I have used it on and off since it first came out and it keeps getting worse. But I will solve this problem.

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        • J jmaida

          I will. Thank you. I blame VS because 1. Have 2 copies of exactly the same C file. 2. Put them into VS "exactly" the same way (here is where the rub is, because VS makes that more complicated than it should be as "exactly" is not what has happened) 3. one works fine, the other does not. 4. Did a difference on .project files. Not "exactly" the same. That is what I am trying to resolve. If it is user error then shame on VS for making it easy to do.

          "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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          David ONeil
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          Find the main header that controls everything. Make a single VS project with just that. Comment out all of the included headers. Even comment out the code. Get that to compile. Then uncomment one header and get that to compile. Etc. etc. If it is a big project it will take quite a while. I have gone through a process like that before. It wasn't fun, but I found the stupid effing mistake. It was my own mistake.

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          • J Julian Ragan

            Ever seen a simple IDE?

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            Code Blocks is more straight forward

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            • D David ONeil

              Find the main header that controls everything. Make a single VS project with just that. Comment out all of the included headers. Even comment out the code. Get that to compile. Then uncomment one header and get that to compile. Etc. etc. If it is a big project it will take quite a while. I have gone through a process like that before. It wasn't fun, but I found the stupid effing mistake. It was my own mistake.

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              jmaida
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              doing so as we espeak. BTW reading your article too.

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              • J jmaida

                Code Blocks is more straight forward

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                Julian Ragan
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                CB is specialized for C/C++ and Fortran, so it will be far simpler than VS, but again, it is not simple. BTW it was my first IDE, so I have some newbie dev experience with it, it was not hell, but it still required serious effort to configure.

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                • J jmaida

                  I do not like to argue all day long. I am looking for helpful input. I have received it and I have taking everyone's advice, but I still cannot get VS to behave. Frustrating. OK. You can call it ranting. So what. I am an extremely experienced C programmer (I have also written code in C, Fortran, Cobol, Algol, PL/I ...) as well. Writing C code since K&R first publication, so feel qualified to complain. I am retired now and doing some experimenting using GLFW's VS libraries to facilitate porting a large body of work to VS for programmers at a former employer. I will calmly say VS is not a user/programmer friendly application. I have used it on and off since it first came out and it keeps getting worse. But I will solve this problem.

                  "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                  Jeremy Falcon
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                  Ok... whatever.

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    Ok... whatever.

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                    jmaida
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                    I guess you are the whatever type. :)

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                    • J jmaida

                      I guess you are the whatever type. :)

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      I guess you lack the self-awareness to see you proved my point about you looking to rant and argue. Since I know you're going to reply and continue this charade, you can have the last post. Still won't have the solution though.

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                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                        I guess you lack the self-awareness to see you proved my point about you looking to rant and argue. Since I know you're going to reply and continue this charade, you can have the last post. Still won't have the solution though.

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                        jmaida
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                        I am robot.

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                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                          I guess you lack the self-awareness to see you proved my point about you looking to rant and argue. Since I know you're going to reply and continue this charade, you can have the last post. Still won't have the solution though.

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                          jmaida
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                          whatever

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                          • J Jeremy Falcon

                            I guess you lack the self-awareness to see you proved my point about you looking to rant and argue. Since I know you're going to reply and continue this charade, you can have the last post. Still won't have the solution though.

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                            jmaida
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                            Yes. not charade

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                            • J Jeremy Falcon

                              I guess you lack the self-awareness to see you proved my point about you looking to rant and argue. Since I know you're going to reply and continue this charade, you can have the last post. Still won't have the solution though.

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                              jmaida
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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                I guess you lack the self-awareness to see you proved my point about you looking to rant and argue. Since I know you're going to reply and continue this charade, you can have the last post. Still won't have the solution though.

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                                jmaida
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                                Looking for a job? Never mind you already work for MS.

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                                  jmaida wrote:

                                  #include <glfw glfw3.h=""> fails not matter how I reference that the directory it is located in. D:\code\glfw3.3.8\include NOT A TYPO ANYWHERE

                                  Apart from the fact that the include statement is totally incorrect. And again, that is nothing to do with Visual Studio, but one for the compiler. Well, strictly speaking, it's the preprocessor, but we'll let that pass.

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                                  jmaida
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                                  #include is what editor to lounge did. Not me #include is what was supposed to be sent. Something was awry.

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                                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                                    You can link to static lib from a static lib in VS in C. I've done it, but I'm not gonna tell you how. Why? Because of your attitude. Life's too short. Keep on Googling.

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                                    jmaida
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                                    Done that, too. This is another problem related to compilation and include files.

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                                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                                      David O'Neil wrote:

                                      If you selected 'static library project' it is set to CREATE a static library

                                      Home dude isn't here to learn. He's here to rant.

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                                      jmaida
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                                      BS. Not true.

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                                      • P Paul Michalik

                                        A static library cannot use another static library. What exactly do you mean? Honestly VS is perfectly fine, it's, as almost always, the users... :laugh:

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                                        jmaida
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                                        It's another problem related to include files and VS. Not static linking with static. Sorry premature conclusion.

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                                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                                          Try again, you can still write a static lib in C in VS2022. You don't need to use pragmas either. While I'm not a fan of VS these days as it's too bloated, at least be fair and do the research before saying something sucks because it can't do something - when it can. We're supposed to be mature professionals. Supposed to be...

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                                          jmaida
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                                          Did that. Judge not.

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