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  • H honey the codewitch

    What languages, wishlists do you have for your favorite programming languages? C and where applicable, C++: preprocessor definitions that are private to the actual (in this case header) file they are contained in. namespaces that are private to their header. and/or a standard way to separate the implementation of templates into a cpp file a way to predeclare templates (not template instantiations) such that you can access them before they are defined. C#: Mainly I want its code generation to have DSL (domain specific language) capabilities. This means you can create code generation facilities that introduce new keywords into the language, for doing things like AOP and cross-cutting functionality orthogonal to any specific class. The only problem with it is I think it would be overused.

    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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    Single Step Debugger
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    In C# and C++ an "in" and "!in" operators. For example, if we have"

    if(var1 == param1 || var1 == param2 || !(var1 == param3))
    {
    //do stuff
    }

    to be able to translate to:

    if(var1 in (param1, param2, !param3))
    {
    //do stuff
    }

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    • H honey the codewitch

      What languages, wishlists do you have for your favorite programming languages? C and where applicable, C++: preprocessor definitions that are private to the actual (in this case header) file they are contained in. namespaces that are private to their header. and/or a standard way to separate the implementation of templates into a cpp file a way to predeclare templates (not template instantiations) such that you can access them before they are defined. C#: Mainly I want its code generation to have DSL (domain specific language) capabilities. This means you can create code generation facilities that introduce new keywords into the language, for doing things like AOP and cross-cutting functionality orthogonal to any specific class. The only problem with it is I think it would be overused.

      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      honey the codewitch wrote:

      What languages, wishlists do you have for your favorite programming languages?

      My daily drivers are TypeScript/ECMAScript (JavaScript). Since JS is now governed by ECMA, having a committee behind it is a great thing for helping the language to continue to mature in a reasonable way. So, my wish has been answered. But, if I had to pick a wish-list for this ecosystem, it's less to do with the language and more to do with the developers. Despite this ecosystem finally starting to grow up, there are 10,000 packages to clip your toenails, for instance, and 99% of them aren't worth much. And despite the efforts of the language itself growing, due to the enormous popularity of JavaScript, there are still a ton of folks who pretend to know the language but are just script kiddies. For those wondering why I didn't say something like TypeScript to WASM compilation.... there's [already a project](https://www.assemblyscript.org/) that does that with a subset of TS suitable for this.

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      • S Single Step Debugger

        In C# and C++ an "in" and "!in" operators. For example, if we have"

        if(var1 == param1 || var1 == param2 || !(var1 == param3))
        {
        //do stuff
        }

        to be able to translate to:

        if(var1 in (param1, param2, !param3))
        {
        //do stuff
        }

        Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        And an isnt operator, to avoid !( x is y ) ?

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          And an isnt operator, to avoid !( x is y ) ?

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          Can we also have the redneck version called aint?

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            Can we also have the redneck version called aint?

            Jeremy Falcon

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            Daniel Pfeffer
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            How about the "aint not" operator? (Hillbilly?)

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Can we also have the redneck version called aint?

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              Rick York
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              and for set inclusion, the all_yall function.

              "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                and for set inclusion, the all_yall function.

                "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                You totally read my mind. I want this. I need this.

                if (var1 in all yall (param1, param2, !param3)) {
                // all yall are modifiers that are compiler hints, like inline,
                // to tell it to apply comparison optimizations if possible
                }

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  Can we also have the redneck version called aint?

                  Jeremy Falcon

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  Well, let's not, else we may wind up with multiple inheritance problems.

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                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                    Well, let's not, else we may wind up with multiple inheritance problems.

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    The coding interviews would be like... Can you explain a binary search family tree with no branches? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      What languages, wishlists do you have for your favorite programming languages? C and where applicable, C++: preprocessor definitions that are private to the actual (in this case header) file they are contained in. namespaces that are private to their header. and/or a standard way to separate the implementation of templates into a cpp file a way to predeclare templates (not template instantiations) such that you can access them before they are defined. C#: Mainly I want its code generation to have DSL (domain specific language) capabilities. This means you can create code generation facilities that introduce new keywords into the language, for doing things like AOP and cross-cutting functionality orthogonal to any specific class. The only problem with it is I think it would be overused.

                      To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      C# -- Multiple inheritance. And a C-Preprocessor which is more flexible, for use with things other than vanilla C. I've wanted this since doing PRO*C back in the 90s.

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                        How about the "aint not" operator? (Hillbilly?)

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                        How about the "aint not" operator?

                        That would be t'aint

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                          and for set inclusion, the all_yall function.

                          "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                          Mike Hankey
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                          for (hold_my_bear in watch_this) { }

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                          • M Mike Hankey

                            Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                            How about the "aint not" operator?

                            That would be t'aint

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                            jmaida
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                            I reckon so.

                            "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                            • J Jeremy Falcon

                              The coding interviews would be like... Can you explain a binary search family tree with no branches? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                              Daniel Pfeffer
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                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              Can you explain a binary search family tree with no branches loops?

                              FTFY :)

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                C# -- Multiple inheritance. And a C-Preprocessor which is more flexible, for use with things other than vanilla C. I've wanted this since doing PRO*C back in the 90s.

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                                Daniel Pfeffer
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                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                C# -- Multiple inheritance.

                                If you want C++, you have it. There were good reasons for including multiple inheritance in C++ at the time, and equally good reasons why C# and Java did not include it.

                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                And a C-Preprocessor which is more flexible, for use with things other than vanilla C.

                                Personally, I consider the C preprocessor in its current form to be poorly engineered. Because its definitions are global, the inclusion of a header file can totally change the semantics of a module. Yes, it has its uses, but on any large project it requires a lot of coordination to avoid definition clashes etc.

                                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                • H honey the codewitch

                                  What languages, wishlists do you have for your favorite programming languages? C and where applicable, C++: preprocessor definitions that are private to the actual (in this case header) file they are contained in. namespaces that are private to their header. and/or a standard way to separate the implementation of templates into a cpp file a way to predeclare templates (not template instantiations) such that you can access them before they are defined. C#: Mainly I want its code generation to have DSL (domain specific language) capabilities. This means you can create code generation facilities that introduce new keywords into the language, for doing things like AOP and cross-cutting functionality orthogonal to any specific class. The only problem with it is I think it would be overused.

                                  To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                  Roger Wright
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                                  I'd like to have a language/IDE that can sense my mind, interpret what I want to accomplish, and generate the code required to fulfill my wish. Is that really too much to ask, in this era of AI domination?

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  • H honey the codewitch

                                    What languages, wishlists do you have for your favorite programming languages? C and where applicable, C++: preprocessor definitions that are private to the actual (in this case header) file they are contained in. namespaces that are private to their header. and/or a standard way to separate the implementation of templates into a cpp file a way to predeclare templates (not template instantiations) such that you can access them before they are defined. C#: Mainly I want its code generation to have DSL (domain specific language) capabilities. This means you can create code generation facilities that introduce new keywords into the language, for doing things like AOP and cross-cutting functionality orthogonal to any specific class. The only problem with it is I think it would be overused.

                                    To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                    Niels Holst
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                                    In R: A function that returns the path to where the R script was loaded from.

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                                    • S Single Step Debugger

                                      In C# and C++ an "in" and "!in" operators. For example, if we have"

                                      if(var1 == param1 || var1 == param2 || !(var1 == param3))
                                      {
                                      //do stuff
                                      }

                                      to be able to translate to:

                                      if(var1 in (param1, param2, !param3))
                                      {
                                      //do stuff
                                      }

                                      Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                      Member 15672911
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                                      YES !!!! and as in : if (ch in [A..Z,0..9]) as it is in Pascal.

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                                      • H honey the codewitch

                                        What languages, wishlists do you have for your favorite programming languages? C and where applicable, C++: preprocessor definitions that are private to the actual (in this case header) file they are contained in. namespaces that are private to their header. and/or a standard way to separate the implementation of templates into a cpp file a way to predeclare templates (not template instantiations) such that you can access them before they are defined. C#: Mainly I want its code generation to have DSL (domain specific language) capabilities. This means you can create code generation facilities that introduce new keywords into the language, for doing things like AOP and cross-cutting functionality orthogonal to any specific class. The only problem with it is I think it would be overused.

                                        To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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                                        Cpichols
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                                        Not at all my favorite language, but I do wish that JavaScript could handle associative arrays (not objects) in foreach loops where keys and values could be easily accessed for each item in the array, and so that it could be done recursively. The workarounds for this are making me bug-eyed.

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                                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                                          Can we also have the redneck version called aint?

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                                          Gary Wheeler
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                                          +10! :laugh:

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