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Is bug reporting on the way out as dodo bird?

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  • L Lost User

    With proliferation of "AI" - is bug reporting DEFINITELY and REALLY useless ? AKA "who cares ".....

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    Lost User
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    You'll first have to convince the AI it's a bug and not a feature. Not possible if marketing trains it. Everyone will customize their AI to comply with their business model.

    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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    • L Lost User

      With proliferation of "AI" - is bug reporting DEFINITELY and REALLY useless ? AKA "who cares ".....

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      RickZeeland
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      Not for me, I recently spent a lot of time on this GitHub project in C#: MaxiBug: A fork of the MiniBug2 issue tracker that uses a Postgres database[^] :-\

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      • L Lost User

        With proliferation of "AI" - is bug reporting DEFINITELY and REALLY useless ? AKA "who cares ".....

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        Marc Clifton
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        As long as there are customers, there will bug reports. Don't see AI being involved in this at all except to possibly weed out actual bugs from the growing geriatric population of users that make mistakes. :laugh:

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        • M Marc Clifton

          As long as there are customers, there will bug reports. Don't see AI being involved in this at all except to possibly weed out actual bugs from the growing geriatric population of users that make mistakes. :laugh:

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          Daniel Pfeffer
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          Do we really need AI to code something like:

          void insert_bug_report(bug const& bug_report)
          {
          if (user_age > GERIATRIC)
          {
          send_reply("ID10T error!");
          }
          else
          {
          add_bug_to_database(bug_report);
          }
          }

          (With apologies to all the oldsters who haven't reached their dotage)

          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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          • D Daniel Pfeffer

            Do we really need AI to code something like:

            void insert_bug_report(bug const& bug_report)
            {
            if (user_age > GERIATRIC)
            {
            send_reply("ID10T error!");
            }
            else
            {
            add_bug_to_database(bug_report);
            }
            }

            (With apologies to all the oldsters who haven't reached their dotage)

            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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            jmaida
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            Replace send_reply("ID10T error!"); with Replace send_reply("OLD FART FAULT");

            "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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            • L Lost User

              With proliferation of "AI" - is bug reporting DEFINITELY and REALLY useless ? AKA "who cares ".....

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              jmaida
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              Bug reporting is human nature (born to complain) and/or divine intervention (killer bugs).

              "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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              • J jmaida

                Replace send_reply("ID10T error!"); with Replace send_reply("OLD FART FAULT");

                "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                englebart
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                Said the AI?

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                • D Daniel Pfeffer

                  Do we really need AI to code something like:

                  void insert_bug_report(bug const& bug_report)
                  {
                  if (user_age > GERIATRIC)
                  {
                  send_reply("ID10T error!");
                  }
                  else
                  {
                  add_bug_to_database(bug_report);
                  }
                  }

                  (With apologies to all the oldsters who haven't reached their dotage)

                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                  englebart
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                  The AI covered its a$$ by hiding the GERIATRIC constant in a header file no person will find. Except me… the value was 0!

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                  • E englebart

                    Said the AI?

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                    jmaida
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                    #13

                    Said who?

                    "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                    • E englebart

                      The AI covered its a$$ by hiding the GERIATRIC constant in a header file no person will find. Except me… the value was 0!

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                      jmaida
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                      AI (Ai) has a biblical meaning as "ruined heap". Yikes.

                      "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                      • J jmaida

                        Said who?

                        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                        englebart
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                        Your suggestion looked like it was generated by AI ! An age biased AI

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                        • J jmaida

                          AI (Ai) has a biblical meaning as "ruined heap". Yikes.

                          "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                          englebart
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                          So “Ai Ai, Captain” can be considered insubordination?

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                          • E englebart

                            Your suggestion looked like it was generated by AI ! An age biased AI

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                            jmaida
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                            LOL. Just wanted the record to be more precise. :)

                            "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                            • E englebart

                              So “Ai Ai, Captain” can be considered insubordination?

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                              jmaida
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                              LOL, :) Hadn't thought of that. So many nautical terms. Yo Ho Ho.

                              "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                              • L Lost User

                                With proliferation of "AI" - is bug reporting DEFINITELY and REALLY useless ? AKA "who cares ".....

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                                Wizard of Sleeves
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                                Not so sure about the dodo [^]

                                Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth. To err is human, to arr is pirate.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  With proliferation of "AI" - is bug reporting DEFINITELY and REALLY useless ? AKA "who cares ".....

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                                  Paul Sanders the other one
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                                  Erm, no

                                  Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    With proliferation of "AI" - is bug reporting DEFINITELY and REALLY useless ? AKA "who cares ".....

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                                    Kate X257
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                                    Really hope AI replaces bug triage soon. For the last 5 days, I've been trying to get Microsoft to fix a bug with winget, and it's a relatively simple one: some packages can't be installed. During 2 days of triage, it was cleared up that the -e flag stopped working, and that their fuzzy matching just isn't reliable. Fine. I ask them to fix the -e flag, but for days they keep hammering on about their fuzzy matching. I don't want fuzzy matching, I want an -e flag that works. Who the heck does orchestration scripts based on fuzzy matching? It's a 1 step repro. Why is this so hard? It's been driving me up the walls.

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                                    • K k5054

                                      Considering that the dodo may be on the way back [Gene editing company hopes to bring dodo ‘back to life’ | Extinct wildlife | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/jan/31/gene-editing-company-hopes-to-bring-dodo-back-to-life) that may not be a good example, anymore. But no, bug reports will still need to be made. Bugs will still occur, some of them will be potentially catastrophic (what do you mean, the plane tried to land 2 meters below the runway???). So bug reporting will still be needed. AI might be able help narrow down the nature and/or location of the bug, maybe even one day correct the bug, but for now, as others here and in other locations have noted AI is very poor AI at writing code. I can't imagine it would do any better at fixing bugs. And companies producing software will still be liable.

                                      Keep Calm and Carry On

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                                      haughtonomous
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                                      A "meter" is a device that measures something. A "metre" is a distance of about three feet, or 1000 millimetres.

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                                      • J jmaida

                                        Replace send_reply("ID10T error!"); with Replace send_reply("OLD FART FAULT");

                                        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                        haughtonomous
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                                        Disparaging remarks about older people is just childish. What do you want to be when you grow up?

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          With proliferation of "AI" - is bug reporting DEFINITELY and REALLY useless ? AKA "who cares ".....

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                                          maze3
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                                          it is not if the product is implemented EXACTLY and flawlessly on WHAT the client has asked for but works how they NEED it to work "its not doing as I asked it do to it" 🙄

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