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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    "Lines" is not a valid metric for modern languages.

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    Lost User
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    Visual Studio did the "counting".

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    Lines of Executable code - Indicates the approximate number of executable code lines or operations. This is a count of number of operations in executable code. This metric is available starting in Visual Studio 2019 version 16.4 and Microsoft.CodeAnalysis.Metrics (2.9.5). The value is typically a close match to the previous metric, Lines of Code, which is the MSIL-instruction-based metric used in legacy mode.

    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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      You are not average or "normal"

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      Greg Utas
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      I find that it varies. Application level, more than that. Framework level can be a different story.

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      • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

        That code must be well commented to get below a 1:4 ratio! I was also surprised when I first heard about the 100 lines per day. Actually, I heard it as 50 to 75, which might be even more accurate.

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        The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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        Lost User
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        I have a lot of (UWP) XAML; perhaps 25-35%. And don't know if it's considered "executable code" since it's (mostly) declarative; same with simpler properties.

        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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        • L Lost User

          Decided to run code metrics on my current "big" VS project. I felt I had a "huge" code base. My 31K of source code (it felt like more) amounted to little more than 7300 lines of "Executable" code. Years ago, I scoffed when I read the average programmer writes only about 100 lines of bug-free code per day.

          "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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          Derek Hunter
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          The problem with this is that you can't really decide if it was bug free until years later. If my '100 lines' written today causes someone to spend four days fixing something in two years, then my average drops to 25 lines for that day.

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          • L Lost User

            Decided to run code metrics on my current "big" VS project. I felt I had a "huge" code base. My 31K of source code (it felt like more) amounted to little more than 7300 lines of "Executable" code. Years ago, I scoffed when I read the average programmer writes only about 100 lines of bug-free code per day.

            "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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            GuyThiebaut
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            Gerry Schmitz wrote:

            100 lines of bug-free code per day

            It's not rare that I write 10 lines of code a week - much of my time is spent fixing issues in a huge codebase that has a lot of technical debt in which you spend pretty much all of the time reading or debugging the code.

            “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

            ― Christopher Hitchens

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            • L Lost User

              Decided to run code metrics on my current "big" VS project. I felt I had a "huge" code base. My 31K of source code (it felt like more) amounted to little more than 7300 lines of "Executable" code. Years ago, I scoffed when I read the average programmer writes only about 100 lines of bug-free code per day.

              "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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              maze3
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              "writes", does not mean the same as keeps and releases to production, so yeah, 100 per day sounds good

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                "Lines" is not a valid metric for modern languages.

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                JohnDG52
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                Agreed. Here's five lines of text!

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                • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                  That code must be well commented to get below a 1:4 ratio! I was also surprised when I first heard about the 100 lines per day. Actually, I heard it as 50 to 75, which might be even more accurate.

                  Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                  The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

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                  gervacleto
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                  My ratio is closer to 1:2 102,436 Lines of Code 60,570 Lines of Executable Accordingly to Visual Studio Metrics. Some day I have written much more than 100 lines/day of code. Actually close to 1000

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                  • G gervacleto

                    My ratio is closer to 1:2 102,436 Lines of Code 60,570 Lines of Executable Accordingly to Visual Studio Metrics. Some day I have written much more than 100 lines/day of code. Actually close to 1000

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                    Greg Utas
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                    The metric is for released code, meaning that it has been thoroughly tested and integrated.

                    Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                    The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

                    <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
                    <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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                    • L Lost User

                      Visual Studio did the "counting".

                      Quote:

                      Lines of Executable code - Indicates the approximate number of executable code lines or operations. This is a count of number of operations in executable code. This metric is available starting in Visual Studio 2019 version 16.4 and Microsoft.CodeAnalysis.Metrics (2.9.5). The value is typically a close match to the previous metric, Lines of Code, which is the MSIL-instruction-based metric used in legacy mode.

                      "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                      Ralf Quint
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                      Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                      Visual Studio did the "counting".

                      That's your problem, right there... :laugh: :cool:

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                      • L Lost User

                        Decided to run code metrics on my current "big" VS project. I felt I had a "huge" code base. My 31K of source code (it felt like more) amounted to little more than 7300 lines of "Executable" code. Years ago, I scoffed when I read the average programmer writes only about 100 lines of bug-free code per day.

                        "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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                        Gary Wheeler
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                        I know line count isn't considered a useful metric, but I did one on our current product a while back out of curiosity. The 800-lb gorilla in the room is 2.5 million executable lines.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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