Are Lenovo laptops any good?
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I bought one 2 weeks ago. A yoga, since that had what I wanted, namely a fast ssd, metal case, backlit keyboard and a decent cpu. Couldn't give a crap about the 10-point touchscreen, 180deg hinge to make it a tablet or the inbuilt hd camera. 14" 2880x1800 oled, 16g ram, 1tb nvme ssd. i7-1260. Dolby atmos sound, backlit keyboard. It's a sexy machine, with spectacular build quality, though wasn't what I'd call cheap. Everything about it is amazing.. Except 2 things. 0) Windows 11's Bluetooth support sucks big hairy donkey whatsits. All of the bluetooth audio devices I own produce glitchy sound. Both synch issues when watching youtube or locally-stored videos with VLC, sometimes combined with lower pitch. Someone online has pointed out that a 1k test signal was played back at 44100/48000 of what it should be (with a pair of Huwawei laptops) MS bt drivers for it only allow 48000hz BT sound output. I've been back and forth with them for a week and appear to have an admission that their third-party supplier (Microsoft) has let down the team. Think I'll return it and keep working on the old Win 7 laptop I have. 1) The warranty scheme is messed-up. They offer a 12 month warranty, to which they add an extra month. Why the extra month, you ask? Because the warranty period starts when they sell it to the retailer, rather than when the retailer sells it to you. They've even got a button in their support website marked "Problems with my warranty" or similar. I got mine with under 10months left, according to their Vantage app. They fixed that after a single email. Everything else about it though is like my L badged 'toyota'. (Bloody Awesome) Sucks bugger-all juice while going hard, a tank of energy lasts ages. I've been getting about 10 hours per charge from the 71Wh battery, the inbuilt sound is spectacular and it's an absolute joy to use. The sound issue though is not what I'd expect from something with Dolby written on it, which cost over $2.6k. :sigh:
I bought its "little bro" Ideapad Flex 5 a few months ago for about A$1.4k. [i7, 16GB / 512GB] Ran Win11 long enough to make it let go of the SSD (kill "fast start") then repartitioned it and loaded Ubuntu. Very happy with it. Much lighter than my other lappies, battery runs pretty much all day, so I don't need to lug the charger around a lot of the time. Feels solid, looks to be well engineered articulated hinges, magnetic closure is nice. About the only beef I have with it is that, like so many others around that size, the cursor up/down keys are half height. Keyboard backlight is a nice extra for late night use. Not a fan of touchpads, so I got a logitech pebble too.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
My Lenovo ThinkPad eraser head pointer goes into a drift sometimes that is hard to stop. It acts like I'm still pushing on it when I'm not. Very annoying. I have not found any device properties that I can adjust. If I have a lot of work to do I connect an external mouse to avoid the problem.
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My Lenovo ThinkPad eraser head pointer goes into a drift sometimes that is hard to stop. It acts like I'm still pushing on it when I'm not. Very annoying. I have not found any device properties that I can adjust. If I have a lot of work to do I connect an external mouse to avoid the problem.
It sounds like yours is physically worn out.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I bought one 2 weeks ago. A yoga, since that had what I wanted, namely a fast ssd, metal case, backlit keyboard and a decent cpu. Couldn't give a crap about the 10-point touchscreen, 180deg hinge to make it a tablet or the inbuilt hd camera. 14" 2880x1800 oled, 16g ram, 1tb nvme ssd. i7-1260. Dolby atmos sound, backlit keyboard. It's a sexy machine, with spectacular build quality, though wasn't what I'd call cheap. Everything about it is amazing.. Except 2 things. 0) Windows 11's Bluetooth support sucks big hairy donkey whatsits. All of the bluetooth audio devices I own produce glitchy sound. Both synch issues when watching youtube or locally-stored videos with VLC, sometimes combined with lower pitch. Someone online has pointed out that a 1k test signal was played back at 44100/48000 of what it should be (with a pair of Huwawei laptops) MS bt drivers for it only allow 48000hz BT sound output. I've been back and forth with them for a week and appear to have an admission that their third-party supplier (Microsoft) has let down the team. Think I'll return it and keep working on the old Win 7 laptop I have. 1) The warranty scheme is messed-up. They offer a 12 month warranty, to which they add an extra month. Why the extra month, you ask? Because the warranty period starts when they sell it to the retailer, rather than when the retailer sells it to you. They've even got a button in their support website marked "Problems with my warranty" or similar. I got mine with under 10months left, according to their Vantage app. They fixed that after a single email. Everything else about it though is like my L badged 'toyota'. (Bloody Awesome) Sucks bugger-all juice while going hard, a tank of energy lasts ages. I've been getting about 10 hours per charge from the 71Wh battery, the inbuilt sound is spectacular and it's an absolute joy to use. The sound issue though is not what I'd expect from something with Dolby written on it, which cost over $2.6k. :sigh:
I'm holding out for a 12 point touch screen. :-D
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
I just got a Samsung Book3 pro 360. I maxed it out on memory and have a TB SSD. I love that sucker. I got the bigger one with the larger keyboard and screen. I don't think it will take a physical beating. It is soo light. But, it has taken every programming number crunching things I have thrown at it for a month or more. Lenovo, i think they are better than they were last year. Dell I agree throughly middle of the road nothing special. and I think they are going down hill because of no competition.
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
I use a Lenovo Legion (gaming) for development already for two years, it is fast, thin bevel, matte screen (not the glossy you have with touchscreens), enough USB ports, and it has a built-in network connector which you won't find much in recent laptops. It is missing display port only HDMI, but mine is already 2 years old. So far no issues.
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I use a Lenovo Legion (gaming) for development already for two years, it is fast, thin bevel, matte screen (not the glossy you have with touchscreens), enough USB ports, and it has a built-in network connector which you won't find much in recent laptops. It is missing display port only HDMI, but mine is already 2 years old. So far no issues.
Thanks. After the comments here I've found myself enamored with the ASUS ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED (H7600, 12th Gen Intel) It's got an RTX 3080 TI which is acceptable for the games I play, even at 4k. I have a 4080 at home anyway. The thing that gets me about it, besides the generous performance specs, and nice video (for a laptop, anyway) is the OLED screen. OMG, I love OLED. It's only 60Hz but I barely care. I usually just turn VSync off anyway on my games. (judge me!)
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
Hey, I have two thinkpads from Lenovo, T510 and W530. Been using T510 from 2014 till now, actually I was having some kernel level issues in Ubuntu on T510, probably it will be fixed, but I just love it, build quality is like tank. I have dropped it sometimes, even the lcd is blacked out from one side but it is still working as good as it was on day one. I have played Assassins creed 3(whole game) with the 'little eraserhead pointer' and many other games, did my machine learning project using opencv and tensorflow on it. The machine was running for weeks training the model at temps above 85C, and I bought second hand, well I can go on for hours, plus W530 is also like a tank, been mining on it, played games on it. All in all, lenovo thinkpads are still a good choice to go.
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Hmmm. I've had dell laptops before. I wasn't super impressed. It felt like driving a toyota. Standard trackpad, standard screen, standard keyboard. Stock upper mid shelf CPU. Nothing to really hate about them (except the trackpad), but nothing I loved either. I'm looking for something... sportier? I want to fall in love with it.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I'm looking for something... sportier? I want to fall in love with it.
Well, take a look at Alienware then. Just like Lexus is made by Toyota, Alienware is made by Dell. On a different note, while some manufacturers indeed only make junk, most have different lines aiming for different customers. Dell and Lenovo both makes junk less good computers, while both also make good stuff. I've personally have had VERY good experience with Dell Latitude, but they also produce junk I'm afraid. The lineup from Dell goes like: AlienWare -> Gaming, Performance, big and heavy Precision -> Workstations, Performance, almost as big and heavy XPS -> small and Light Latitude -> Business, long lasting, compromise on everything except price Inspiron -> Cheap Vostro -> Garbage G Series -> Dunno, have to check them out I have no clue what the current lineup from Lenovo is I'm afraid
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
I have a Lenovo P51 and I'd say it's insanely good. This particular one is also insanely over-specced (for 4 years ago) and thus insanely expensive: it has the fastest mobile Xeon available at the time, 32GB memory, a 1TB SSD, 15" 4k screen and NVidia Quadro graphics, which are good enough for me to run three external monitors as well as the laptop's screen. The two things I really like about it are the famously-excellent keyboard and the fact that it can cool that Xeon enough for it to run flat out, all the time. Most laptops with high-end CPUs can only keep them cool for short bursts then have to throttle down, but this is a tank. It's heavy but that's OK as I rarely need to move it.
Regards Nelviticus
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
I'm on my fourth Thinkpad laptop in under 2 years. :( The first one broke down after I installed all software I needed. (2 days wasted) :omg: The second one lost the ability to connect to any network. :confused: The third one had a rebooting issue. (rebooted when I didn't want it to reboot) X| My fourth one is working for now. (I've only had for 4 months) :~ General speaking: . It is a bit slow . Ridicules few ports. (1 HDMI, 2 USB ports - none of the USB-3) . Very small screen My boss supplies this stuff. I would never buy one myself, I would go for ASUS.
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
My 8 yo Lenovo Yoga 15 is still perking along. It's obviously not as fast as a newer unit, but it handles VS 2022 just fine, and does everything I need without any problems. I purchased Lenovo T series for both my sons when they entered college -- these laptops are now 7 and 10 yo, respectively, and both still work fine. Longevity is not a problem IME.
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
My previous employer apparently got a bad batch of Lenovo Thinkpads. I say that because one of the techs told me that I wasn’t the only one who had problems. During the near year I was working for them I went through three or four of them. The first one was starting to go bad. It would just lock up. I think it was hard drive related. The others just died and I think those were somehow power supply related. The last one died just as I was about to go into a Teams meeting. I work remote and since the company is in New Hampshire and I’m in Florida I would end up having a couple of days of down time while I waited for the replacement. I was laid off from that job at end of October last year so I’m currently on a contract and the client sent me a Lenovo Thinkpad to work on which I received in late November and, knock wood, it hasn’t given me any problems.
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Yeah, I'd consider ASUS if build quality was all I was looking for. My biggest stumbling block is trackpads. I can't bear them and would much prefer a laptop that didn't have one that I'd just disable anyway. Anyway, I'll take a look at them.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
I can’t stand trackpads either. My wife likes them but she seldom uses her laptop. Myself I prefer to use a trackball. I use the Logitech MX Ergo.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
Shame about the trackpad,
Sometimes one has to go with the times. Many moons ago I had laptops that had a trackball instead of a trackpad. I used to love them: accurate, small no accidental movement. I might have been the only one or they were not economical to build because they disappeared and I had to learn to live with the trackpads. Well, times, they are 'achanging.
honey the codewitch wrote:
Thanks for making me look at ASUS again
One is glad to be of service :)
Mircea
Back before Microsoft made it easy to disable the trackpad via settings, I would tape a piece of thin cardboard over the trackpad.
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
Your question intrigued me, so I went looking at my 10-12 laptops acquired over the years. I guess I am a boring, Honda/Toyota kind of guy. I have always valued reliability, and not much else. I have HP, and Dell. I only use a wireless keyboard and mouse combo, as I hate trying to type on a laptop keyboard. They are too flat for me. :) I already struggle with my typing skills. Finally, take a look at Acer. don't know if they have the pazazz you are looking for but have loved their desktops for 30 years or so.
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I had a precision. Didn't love it. My only issue with spending this kind of money on a Lenovo is I don't know what I'm getting. For example, I've bought ASUS products for years. I've had one bad product - a poorly designed netbook from them, but their build quality (even on that device) has always been at least respectable. Lenovo is kind of an unknown quantity for me, and the spec sheet won't tell me if they use good (japanese maybe) capacitors in their boards for example. Not that I'm looking for that kind of detail. More I'm looking for people's organic experiences with them. Did they hold up? Did the hinges wear out? Was their anything about them you hated? That sort of thing. Spec sheets are kind of short on that information.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
I currently have 2 Lenovo Legion Laptops. I love them. I am slowly replacing everything HP I had with Lenovo. Granted I don't get the low end machines though. Both of my laptops are the Legions. They seem to hold up as good as any dell. The only gripe I had is that I had to get a new power cord (my fault) for one of them, and it was difficult to get it ordered correctly without talking to a salesperson from Lenovo website. You can always ask at MicroCenter. They have a customer service chat and they are generally pretty honest. ( https://www.microcenter.com )
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I loved IBM Thinkpads. It's as if they sat me down, interviewed me for two hours, and then built a laptop based on their findings. The little eraserhead pointer that everyone hates I wish I had on all my keyboards. I can use the mouse without taking my hands of the home row and my wrist isn't clicking an annoying trackpad all the time. But it's more than that. They had the build quality, top tier LCD tech at the time, great bleeding edge hardware (first laptop with a mobile Pentium III for example), and stellar support. I had video hardware on one go tits up and IBM sent a tech to my workplace the next day who replaced my lappy's mainboard. I lost maybe 5 hours of productivity to my primary dev machine going out. That's not bad, actually. The only real achilles heel they had were the HDDs - the "IBM DeskDeathStar" drives. Most were good, but they had a run of them that were just junk - but it was a misstep from a company that was usually pretty reliable about quality. The situation stood out for being the exception to the rule. Then they sold everything to Lenovo. I haven't touched Lenovo machines. How's the build quality? Are there laptops that have supplanted the thinkpad's former niche at the high end**? Especially with those little pointing nubs. Love them. ** non-gaming
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
I have a Lenovo Thinkpad Ultrabook that's about 2 years old -- great keyboard with pointing nub, great display, no problems at all. It was worth the extra bucks.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
I'm looking for something... sportier? I want to fall in love with it.
Well, take a look at Alienware then. Just like Lexus is made by Toyota, Alienware is made by Dell. On a different note, while some manufacturers indeed only make junk, most have different lines aiming for different customers. Dell and Lenovo both makes junk less good computers, while both also make good stuff. I've personally have had VERY good experience with Dell Latitude, but they also produce junk I'm afraid. The lineup from Dell goes like: AlienWare -> Gaming, Performance, big and heavy Precision -> Workstations, Performance, almost as big and heavy XPS -> small and Light Latitude -> Business, long lasting, compromise on everything except price Inspiron -> Cheap Vostro -> Garbage G Series -> Dunno, have to check them out I have no clue what the current lineup from Lenovo is I'm afraid
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Just supplementing this post, Dell has a Precision that is a business class XPS. I believe it is the 5000 series Precision. The G Series was an evolution of their Inspiron gaming series, and both were pretty solid (I've had my Inspiron gaming laptop for 7 years now). However, last years G series were plagued with all sorts of issues and would not recommend purchasing. @Honey the codewitch if you want a good Dell laptop go with the XPS or the Precision equivalent if you need the extra business features.