It's not about the money...
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After less than a week on W11 I got so frustrated with the taskbar, that I actually paid for a software to resolve the issue... It is not about the money ($5), but the realization that MS actually doesn't give a shit about end user...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
Agreed! :thumbsup: If you find something useful, $5 is a measly amount, especially considering that MS is now giving away a lot of development tools many of us use. I'll stay away from W11 as long as I can. I absolutely loved Win7 and have learned to tolerate coexist with Win10. I've setup a couple of laptops with W11 and wasn't impressed...just more dumbing down, tablet oriented, shiny stuff. X| I'll be getting a new laptop soon, and will either learn to live with it, or also spend a little to make it tolerable! :)
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It is PITA... You have to wait for the popup, then identify the correct instance from the thumbernail... You also misding identifications lke 'Running' or 'Debug'... A big time PITA
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Ok. Understood.
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After less than a week on W11 I got so frustrated with the taskbar, that I actually paid for a software to resolve the issue... It is not about the money ($5), but the realization that MS actually doesn't give a shit about end user...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
...MS actually doesn't give a sh*t about end user...
Surely you realized this decades ago. They stopped being "geeks with cool tools" a long time ago. Now they're just a [insert insensitive non-PC adjective here] business like any other.
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I'm using ExplorerPatcher and 7 Taskbar Tweaker. I think MS is going to bring back the 'don't combine' feature soon.
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It is PITA... You have to wait for the popup, then identify the correct instance from the thumbernail... You also misding identifications lke 'Running' or 'Debug'... A big time PITA
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
i am afraid i do not yet understand . how should it behave ? when i hover over VS icon in taskbar i see a small preview with the name of the project in surprisingly large letters at top allowing me to easily identify . btw this is on Windows 10 . is it different on your system ?
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i am afraid i do not yet understand . how should it behave ? when i hover over VS icon in taskbar i see a small preview with the name of the project in surprisingly large letters at top allowing me to easily identify . btw this is on Windows 10 . is it different on your system ?
BernardIE5317 wrote:
is it different on your system
Yes; you lose the ability NOT to group items, and also lose the caption in Windows 11. This is the issue - it used to work well in Win10, then they broke it. One of several reasons I've opted NOT to "upgrade" to Win11.
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After less than a week on W11 I got so frustrated with the taskbar, that I actually paid for a software to resolve the issue... It is not about the money ($5), but the realization that MS actually doesn't give a shit about end user...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
Running latest version W11 not running any other taskbar software Personalization Taskbar settings: everything off except hidden icon menu windows update status All icons in taskbar are where i have placed them, no grouping Labels show when hovering over icon. I do not see your problem.
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BernardIE5317 wrote:
is it different on your system
Yes; you lose the ability NOT to group items, and also lose the caption in Windows 11. This is the issue - it used to work well in Win10, then they broke it. One of several reasons I've opted NOT to "upgrade" to Win11.
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Running latest version W11 not running any other taskbar software Personalization Taskbar settings: everything off except hidden icon menu windows update status All icons in taskbar are where i have placed them, no grouping Labels show when hovering over icon. I do not see your problem.
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First problem is the icons - I want labels Second - how many instances of VS for instance you have?
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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Running latest version W11 not running any other taskbar software Personalization Taskbar settings: everything off except hidden icon menu windows update status All icons in taskbar are where i have placed them, no grouping Labels show when hovering over icon. I do not see your problem.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
...MS actually doesn't give a sh*t about end user...
Surely you realized this decades ago. They stopped being "geeks with cool tools" a long time ago. Now they're just a [insert insensitive non-PC adjective here] business like any other.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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mmm.. what is the problem with the task bar exactly?
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First problem is the icons - I want labels Second - how many instances of VS for instance you have?
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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Sounds like you configured W11 to as close as possible to your Windows 10 config?
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Labels on icons, understood. Don't know if that is an option with standard W11 settings. Not sure I understand VS reference.
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Labes a not possible with W11 out-of-the-box I have at least 3 instances of VS open at every given time - I still see a single icon (with a very minor shadow-doubling)... Just crap...
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Seriously?
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Well.. for the very first time I can put all my favorite application on the task bar... so forgive me if I fail to see your problem without any clues, Mr person I don't even know!
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After less than a week on W11 I got so frustrated with the taskbar, that I actually paid for a software to resolve the issue... It is not about the money ($5), but the realization that MS actually doesn't give a shit about end user...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
Yep, I totally agree with you! The grouping thing is so so annoying! I wasted sooo many hours of my life clicking/looking/complaining aver the taskbar. Solved using Startdock Start11 found in a comment here in Code project luckily. And tks to people who like to share their findings, I was going crazy, too! You are not alone :cool:
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What do you think would happen if McDonalds redid the qp like ms did the taskbar?
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No text and always grouped... So to select one of the N opened Visual Studio instances is PITA...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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After less than a week on W11 I got so frustrated with the taskbar, that I actually paid for a software to resolve the issue... It is not about the money ($5), but the realization that MS actually doesn't give a shit about end user...
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
I too have struggled with this missing feature in Windows 11. The grouped setup is the default in Windows 10, so I'm guessing that's why so many who have replied do not know what you are talking about. It really is wild how much more time it takes to switch between windows that are part of the same application takes with the default (grouped) taskbar setup. But then again, I'm always amazed at how many technology professionals and developers don't really know how to use Windows and primary work in applications that do not have multiple windows at the top level.
