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  • D David ONeil

    long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

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    jmaida
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    Not sure what you were searching for, but I have had no problems. I typically use duckduckgo, my search engine of choice because they claim minimal tracking. But after your description of an issue, I searched for self rising flour (pretty specific). Google search worked just fine.

    "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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    • D David ONeil

      long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

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      Dave Kreskowiak
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      Are you talking about the option behind the Tools button? By default, it's "All results". Click on that and you can switch to "Verbatim".

      Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        Are you talking about the option behind the Tools button? By default, it's "All results". Click on that and you can switch to "Verbatim".

        Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
        Dave Kreskowiak

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        David ONeil
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        I've always used verbatim search. Now it doesn't work like it used to, and is quite worthless in comparison to its old behavior.

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        • D David ONeil

          long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

          Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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          They had to kill it to give people a reason to try Bard.

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          • J jmaida

            Not sure what you were searching for, but I have had no problems. I typically use duckduckgo, my search engine of choice because they claim minimal tracking. But after your description of an issue, I searched for self rising flour (pretty specific). Google search worked just fine.

            "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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            David ONeil
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            I was trying to remember the ARM project Microsoft cancelled. 'Microsoft cancelled ARM' would have brought it up quickly with the old verbatim search. Not with the new algorithm. DuckDuckGo has never been as good as the old verbatim search was. I tried it multiple times and gave up on it. Now they all suck.

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            • J jmaida

              Not sure what you were searching for, but I have had no problems. I typically use duckduckgo, my search engine of choice because they claim minimal tracking. But after your description of an issue, I searched for self rising flour (pretty specific). Google search worked just fine.

              "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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              David ONeil
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              ps - 'self-rising flour' is not specific. 'self rising flour himalayas' would be kinda specific. The results aren't very great for that, and now include a lot of non-himalayas results.

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              • J jmaida

                Not sure what you were searching for, but I have had no problems. I typically use duckduckgo, my search engine of choice because they claim minimal tracking. But after your description of an issue, I searched for self rising flour (pretty specific). Google search worked just fine.

                "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                FreedMalloc
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                Sure. But try a search where you want narrow the results to specific terms. Say, something like: Pixel 6 Pro hardware diagrams You'll get diagrams for every pixel ever made. Yes, the p6p is in there but if I'm only interested in the p6p why make me wade thru the dreck if I told it to filter it out? It used to work much better - by which I mean - it doesn't work at all now.

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                • D David ONeil

                  long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

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                  Amarnath S
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                  Gave a search string in my language Kannada, and Google search worked just fine.

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                  • D David ONeil

                    long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

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                    jschell
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                    David O'Neil wrote:

                    verbatim search unusable.

                    What did it do? I just tried the following and it still seems to find pretty exact results for a search string.

                    "file not found" site:microsoft.com

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                    • D Dave Kreskowiak

                      Are you talking about the option behind the Tools button? By default, it's "All results". Click on that and you can switch to "Verbatim".

                      Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                      Dave Kreskowiak

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                      jmaida
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                      I see no "tools button" on google search screen Google[^]

                      "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                      • D David ONeil

                        long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

                        Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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                        englebart
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                        They have definitely removed the effectiveness of + sign. It used to be +a +b +c would only return pages with all 3. Now top hits will include pages missing some of the keywords.

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                        • D David ONeil

                          I was trying to remember the ARM project Microsoft cancelled. 'Microsoft cancelled ARM' would have brought it up quickly with the old verbatim search. Not with the new algorithm. DuckDuckGo has never been as good as the old verbatim search was. I tried it multiple times and gave up on it. Now they all suck.

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                          jmaida
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                          understood. sometimes its better than nothing. Given Microsoft's reach, search results of its activities may be tainted.

                          "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                            I see no "tools button" on google search screen Google[^]

                            "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                            FreedMalloc
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                            Perform a search, .e.g self rising floor Under the search bar and above the results I see a row of ovals that are filters. Like images, recipes, etc. Scroll that list of filters to the left and on the far right, the last entry will be tools. You may need to select the "all" filter before it appears.

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                              Perform a search, .e.g self rising floor Under the search bar and above the results I see a row of ovals that are filters. Like images, recipes, etc. Scroll that list of filters to the left and on the far right, the last entry will be tools. You may need to select the "all" filter before it appears.

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                              jmaida
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                              ah so, after the search

                              "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                I see no "tools button" on google search screen Google[^]

                                "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                Dave Kreskowiak
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                                You get it on the results page, to the right of "Images, Shopping, Videos, News, Maps, ...".

                                Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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                                • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                  You get it on the results page, to the right of "Images, Shopping, Videos, News, Maps, ...".

                                  Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                                  Dave Kreskowiak

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                                  jmaida
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                                  I never really noticed it after a search. Doh

                                  "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                  • J jmaida

                                    understood. sometimes its better than nothing. Given Microsoft's reach, search results of its activities may be tainted.

                                    "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                    David ONeil
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                                    jmaida wrote:

                                    Given Microsoft's reach, search results of its activities may be tainted.

                                    It has nothing to do with Microsoft's reach. It has everything to do with correlating search terms to results. Google no longer does that well.

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                                    • D David ONeil

                                      jmaida wrote:

                                      Given Microsoft's reach, search results of its activities may be tainted.

                                      It has nothing to do with Microsoft's reach. It has everything to do with correlating search terms to results. Google no longer does that well.

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                                      jmaida
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                                      disagree. but done with this topic.

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                                      • D David ONeil

                                        jmaida wrote:

                                        Given Microsoft's reach, search results of its activities may be tainted.

                                        It has nothing to do with Microsoft's reach. It has everything to do with correlating search terms to results. Google no longer does that well.

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                                        jmaida
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                                        My opinion. I have not experienced what you have experienced, but to each his own.

                                        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                        • D David ONeil

                                          long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

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                                          Paul Sanders the other one
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                                          There's always Bing 🤣

                                          Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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