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  • D Dave Kreskowiak

    You get it on the results page, to the right of "Images, Shopping, Videos, News, Maps, ...".

    Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
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    jmaida
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    I never really noticed it after a search. Doh

    "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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    • J jmaida

      understood. sometimes its better than nothing. Given Microsoft's reach, search results of its activities may be tainted.

      "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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      David ONeil
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      jmaida wrote:

      Given Microsoft's reach, search results of its activities may be tainted.

      It has nothing to do with Microsoft's reach. It has everything to do with correlating search terms to results. Google no longer does that well.

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      • D David ONeil

        jmaida wrote:

        Given Microsoft's reach, search results of its activities may be tainted.

        It has nothing to do with Microsoft's reach. It has everything to do with correlating search terms to results. Google no longer does that well.

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        jmaida
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        disagree. but done with this topic.

        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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        • D David ONeil

          jmaida wrote:

          Given Microsoft's reach, search results of its activities may be tainted.

          It has nothing to do with Microsoft's reach. It has everything to do with correlating search terms to results. Google no longer does that well.

          Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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          jmaida
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          My opinion. I have not experienced what you have experienced, but to each his own.

          "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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          • D David ONeil

            long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

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            Paul Sanders the other one
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            There's always Bing 🤣

            Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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              There's always Bing 🤣

              Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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              David ONeil
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              Now they are both the same. :(

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              • D David ONeil

                long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

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                JohnDG52
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                I've noticed Google search is definitely getting less effective.

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                • D David ONeil

                  long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

                  Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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                  Mark Starr
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                  I read recently that Duck Duck Go is doing the same - removing the advanced search operators. I didn’t use them often, but knowing I could subtract (-) a term from results, or force inclusion (+) was nice. Oh well, I’m old. What do I know. :cool:

                  Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                  • E englebart

                    They have definitely removed the effectiveness of + sign. It used to be +a +b +c would only return pages with all 3. Now top hits will include pages missing some of the keywords.

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                    Rich Shealer
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                    That has been a frustration for me for many years. Search has been getting squishier. Search for exactly what is in the quotes please, not something similar. When I excluse a word or phrase with -, I mean it. When I include a word or phrase with +, I mean it. I know it may result in limited results, that is why I'm using the feature. And Microsoft, when I use search on my computer, don't go poking the Internet. If I wanted that I would have opened a broswer! Now get off of my lawn!

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                    • D David ONeil

                      I was trying to remember the ARM project Microsoft cancelled. 'Microsoft cancelled ARM' would have brought it up quickly with the old verbatim search. Not with the new algorithm. DuckDuckGo has never been as good as the old verbatim search was. I tried it multiple times and gave up on it. Now they all suck.

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                      Brien Malone 2022
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                      Google search is on a trajectory to irrelevancy that there won’t be a graph steep enough to depict the decline. I posed your question verbatim to ChatGPT.

                      What was the ARM project that Microsoft canceled?

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                      The ARM project that Microsoft canceled was reportedly an effort to develop a version of Windows 10 that would run on ARM-based processors. The project, codenamed "Windows 10 on ARM" or "WoA", was initially announced in December 2016, with the first devices running the operating system released in 2018. However, in mid-2020, Microsoft confirmed that it was no longer planning to develop new versions of Windows 10 for ARM-based devices, and would instead focus on improving performance and compatibility for the existing version of Windows 10 on ARM. The company did not provide a specific reason for the cancellation of the project, but some reports suggest that it may have been due to poor performance and compatibility issues with certain applications.

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                      • D David ONeil

                        Now they are both the same. :(

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                        Paul Sanders the other one
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                        They are? I thought that was Chrome and Edge.

                        Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                        • D David ONeil

                          long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

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                          jschell
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                          I must be doing something wrong. I tried searches with the following and it still seems to work like I expect

                          "file not found" linux
                          "file not found" -linux

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                          • D David ONeil

                            jmaida wrote:

                            Given Microsoft's reach, search results of its activities may be tainted.

                            It has nothing to do with Microsoft's reach. It has everything to do with correlating search terms to results. Google no longer does that well.

                            Our Forgotten Astronomy | Object Oriented Programming with C++ | Wordle solver

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                            Ralf Quint
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                            As already mentioned, this seems to be a more personal issue for you. I still use Google for all my search needs, and if the answer is out there, I will find it. Unlike with Bing or DuckDuckNoGo, where you always end up with more questions than possible answers...

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                            • P Paul Sanders the other one

                              There's always Bing 🤣

                              Paul Sanders. If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter - Blaise Pascal. Some of my best work is in the undo buffer.

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                              dandy72
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                              Paul Sanders (the other one) wrote:

                              There's always Bing

                              People always joke about Bing, but honestly, it's fine. Seriously. When MS finally killed IE "for good", my next browser of choice fell back to Edge, as I don't want to feed Google any more of my data; at the same time I just kept its default engine (which, obviously, is Bing). And so far, I've had no reason to believe I got inferior results. I still got problems solved in the same way. Windows, being the OS I use, will suck up my data, whether I want it to or not. Given a browser will also do its darndest to do the same, then I'd rather have it go to the same entity than choose another browser as I'd then otherwise have two companies abusing it. And Google's sole reason for existing is to sell you ads (they make no bones about it). Microsoft is making its money elsewhere (although as far as ads go, it's not for lack of trying). So as far as I'm concerned, it's a choice of lesser of two evils, knowing that one of them already has your data whether use you their browser or not.

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                              • D David ONeil

                                long live Google search. /s They have finally managed to make verbatim search unusable. Fuck all the executives with their fingers in that decision. (They probably did this months ago, but today was the first time I've had reason to try finding something specific. Now impossible.)

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                                JayWalks
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                                Interestingly since ChatGPT, I've hardly used Google the last few weeks. It could just be the work I've been doing, but it could be that it's not as helpful as it once was.

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