A good mouse
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honey the codewitch wrote:
- Is wired, which I insist on
But, why? Why you need this cable?!
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"... lack of extra buttons. Vanilla ..." - I looked it up and it has 11 programmable buttons!
Oh, I did not see those. Mea culpa
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
Hmm. I use a Logitech wireless M650L. Smooth touch, nicely affirmative buttons that don't feel fragile. Clicks have a definite auditory and tactile feedback without invoking images of a jackhammer outside Big Ben at noon. Wireless because my cats just love chasing cables that move. Just my 2¢.
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Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
I greatly prefer wired as well. However, I did have a wireless Logitech mouse that lasted for 15 years. When it died, I got another 3 years ago, and it's been great ever since. Though I'm right-dominant, I use a left-handed mouse. Why can't they create a ergonomic design for lefties?
Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere
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This is not going to get much applause here, but I have used a (several) magic mouse(s) from apple. I doubt they work with win boxes. It has a few drawbacks, but one killer feature that has made me endure the drawbacks to the point where I simply buy a new one whenever the current one goes dead. The drawbacks: - it's a battery hog - it sometimes drops it's connection - it completely wears out in 3-5 years BUT: it has a touch surface on top (actually the entire top surface is touch sensitive). That means you can scroll in all directions in any application with an almost imperceptible movement of your finger across the surface, and not just scrolling, you can use it to flip through pictures in a photo's app, pages in a browser, even flip entire workspaces (with a 2-fingered gesture). I only wish they would make a wired version as that would fix drawbacks 1 and 2.
Same story. Same likes and rubs - and the battery cover coming off all the time! I just couldn't come to buy another one after my 3rd one died. I did get the Microsoft Arc Mouse which kind of has the touchpad on the top. Works with Windows and Linux - but my Mac doesn't even see it! Figures.
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Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
OK - it must be that time of the decade for a new mouse. I have several mice but my favorite since 2009 has been a Logitech Anywhere MX. I've literally taken it around the world. In 2013 I bought another one as a backup because I didn't want to be without one if the first one crapped out -- which it has not. BUT...last week, something came over me and I thought - "It's time for a new favorite mouse!" My criteria...1) fits my hand completely (palm resting on top, fingertips rest right on the buttons - my hands are kind of large), 2) can be used ambidextrously (I'm a lefty but use right-handed mice), 3) wireless (my desk is too cluttered; also, I travel). I ended up with a Logitech M650L (blue) - and it is, in fact, my new favorite. One thing that I was not expecting to like is QUIET clicks; I use a mechanical keyboard and love the "noise" - but this quiet clicking mouse is kind of nice. You do feel the clicks, though. Another surprise was that it has Bluetooth in addition to the USB dongle. So, I'm glad I'm not the only one talking about a new mouse. I mentioned how excited I was about it to coworkers and family and it's kind of and odd thing to talk about. Most people don't care. Ok...NOW...who wants to talk about COFFEE MUGS?!!! :D
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Single Step Debugger wrote:
But, why? Why you need this cable?!
I also prefer a wired mouse. I work in a very RF noisy environment. The office has 440 IT professionals in one room and 3/4 are using wireless mice on the same frequency (company supplied). My wired mouse has a much better and more accurate response. And that's not to mention the wireless keyboards, ear buds, etc.
Most (/all) wireless mice I have been using have been Logitech, and they all have had a 3-way channel switch. Maybe cheaper brands don't provide alternate channels. When you bring in ear buds without a single word of comment, I wonder: Don't you see any difference at all between keyboard presses and mouse clicks, and real time media like sound? Believe me: There is a most significant difference. Maybe in the order of a couple orders of magnitude in data volume. For the RF noisy argument: My last 4 displays (2 at work, 2 at home) has USB sockets along the edge. I always used one of them for the wireless dongle, so the distance between the dongle and the mouse is 60-80 cm in open air when the sockets are on the left hand side of the screen, 30 cm if they are on the right hand side (that varies with the terminal model). If your screen doesn't provide USB sockets, put a small USB hub below your screen - you need it there anyway, for charging your mouse, mobile and other stuff, for hooking up your webcam etc. For Bluetooth, when the incoming signal is strong, the receiver will reduce its sensitivity to reduce other disturbances. My current mouse is not BT, but I'd guess that it follows the same logic. I have never experienced any RF noise problems, not in any environment at work or at home. There may of course be mice, keyboards or whatever, managed in a way that can't handle RF noise and/or can't provide sufficiently high bandwidth and short response time. E.g. Logitech MX Master 3 has been a popular mouse among gamers; I guess that is an indicator that when done the right way, wireless mousing (and keyboarding) can be as high-performing as you desire.
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Why don't you buy a wireless mouse charged from a USB socket? My mouse warns well in advance that it needs charging, giving me ample time to dig out a standard USB cable running from the USB socked in the screen to the mouse. I can continue using the mouse while it is charging; no interrupting of my work except for (finding and) plugging in the cable.
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This is not going to get much applause here, but I have used a (several) magic mouse(s) from apple. I doubt they work with win boxes. It has a few drawbacks, but one killer feature that has made me endure the drawbacks to the point where I simply buy a new one whenever the current one goes dead. The drawbacks: - it's a battery hog - it sometimes drops it's connection - it completely wears out in 3-5 years BUT: it has a touch surface on top (actually the entire top surface is touch sensitive). That means you can scroll in all directions in any application with an almost imperceptible movement of your finger across the surface, and not just scrolling, you can use it to flip through pictures in a photo's app, pages in a browser, even flip entire workspaces (with a 2-fingered gesture). I only wish they would make a wired version as that would fix drawbacks 1 and 2.
How often do I have to dig out the charger cable (from screen USB socket to mouse) for charging, causing no other delay of my work? Once a week? No, not that often. Maybe once every two weeks. Maybe I'd call it a 'battery hog' if I had to buy a new battery every two to three weeks, but plugging in the cable that often doesn't bother me. Drops connection? I don't even know how that appears. Do you have to switch the mouse off and back on again? In other words: That is not a problem. Wearing out? How does a mouse 'wear out'? Mechanically falling apart? Collecting too much dirt on the optical sensors? At home, I'll admit that I much too often accidentally push the mouse off the tabletop, so it falls on the stone floor. Maybe some mice won't handle repeated falls. None of my mice have had any problems. I have replaced wireless mice: Once to get rid of that cradle/dock/charging station, replacing it with a battery powered, no dock, model. Then again because I found a bigger model fitting my hand much better, with five buttons, two scroll wheels and USB charging. All functional extensions, not wear out. I have no memory of signs of wear out on any of the older ones. But then: I always bought the mouse I wanted. Not steered by what I could afford. I could afford what I wanted.
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I greatly prefer wired as well. However, I did have a wireless Logitech mouse that lasted for 15 years. When it died, I got another 3 years ago, and it's been great ever since. Though I'm right-dominant, I use a left-handed mouse. Why can't they create a ergonomic design for lefties?
Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere
Matt Bond wrote:
Why can't they create a ergonomic design for lefties?
When I check for 'Hand preference: Left' on the Logitech web site, I am presented with two alternatives ('Lift Left' and 'Signature M650 Left'. 'Ambidextrous' adds another nine - from the pictures, they seem to be perfectly symmetrical. I'd be surprised if other mouse breeders do not have similar offerings. I've stuck to Logitech for I-don't-know-how-many years, mostly because I have been mistreating my mice so badly that it is a great wonder why PETA hasn't come after me; the rodents are still obedient and well behaving.
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Matt Bond wrote:
Why can't they create a ergonomic design for lefties?
When I check for 'Hand preference: Left' on the Logitech web site, I am presented with two alternatives ('Lift Left' and 'Signature M650 Left'. 'Ambidextrous' adds another nine - from the pictures, they seem to be perfectly symmetrical. I'd be surprised if other mouse breeders do not have similar offerings. I've stuck to Logitech for I-don't-know-how-many years, mostly because I have been mistreating my mice so badly that it is a great wonder why PETA hasn't come after me; the rodents are still obedient and well behaving.
In my experience Ambidextrous <==> not ergonomic Thank you for looking, but I'm very good with my mice and they live long health lives in my house. I won't need another for at least a decade if all goes well.
Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere
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Why don't you buy a wireless mouse charged from a USB socket? My mouse warns well in advance that it needs charging, giving me ample time to dig out a standard USB cable running from the USB socked in the screen to the mouse. I can continue using the mouse while it is charging; no interrupting of my work except for (finding and) plugging in the cable.
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Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
I use G502 for gaming for many years. The wheel kinda broke first. It does not scrolls up well. Maybe I should clean it. Everything else works fine.
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Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
The Logitech Hero G502 is the only mouse I'll use at this point. I have the same wired necessity, the weights are nice, but more love it because of the weighted, free-spinning scroll wheel. Ripping up and down huge pages is simple now. I can't live without it and will always have a secondary, just in case this one dies, or traveling or ???, etc. (it's about a year old and no problems). I learned about it from The Tech Lead on youtube. He did a mouse shootout a while back, in case you need more food for thought. If anyone else knows of a different free-spinning scroll wheel mouse, I'm all ears. I look every once in a while and so far haven't found any more (other than the wireless cousins of the Hero G502).
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Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
How many here use a trackball mouse? I use the Logitech MX Ergo trackball, which is wireless, Bluetooth, and a battery that lasts an easy 6 months between charges. My wrist thanks me very much for this... And it's got a neat angle bracket too. No one likes it other than me so I'm safe from family members running off with it. 😁
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honey the codewitch wrote:
- Is wired, which I insist on
But, why? Why you need this cable?!
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Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
I have been using the entry level Microsoft optical mouse for over 20 years now. For a while they got hard to find among the horrid multi-button gimmicky devices so I bought a batch from Goodwill for a few bucks each and worked through these weary warriors until I could get new again. The only decent product the company ever made. And now they're discontinuing them.
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I have been using the entry level Microsoft optical mouse for over 20 years now. For a while they got hard to find among the horrid multi-button gimmicky devices so I bought a batch from Goodwill for a few bucks each and worked through these weary warriors until I could get new again. The only decent product the company ever made. And now they're discontinuing them.
resuna wrote:
The only decent product the company ever made.
Not so! I can think of two others: Visual Studio, and Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2[^] - I bought one recently,. and it is really superb. Expensive, yes. But "decent" is way too low a bar for this thing! :laugh:
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resuna wrote:
The only decent product the company ever made.
Not so! I can think of two others: Visual Studio, and Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2[^] - I bought one recently,. and it is really superb. Expensive, yes. But "decent" is way too low a bar for this thing! :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Is hard to find! I spent a week and a half on and off looking for a mouse that I knew I'd like. Nada. I dropped it. Today, my mouse wheel starts making an awful clicking noise. Time to order a new mouse. To heck with it, I'll just order something on Amazon. First thing that comes up is a Logitech Hero G502. 1) Is wired, which I insist on 2) Has ADJUSTABLE WEIGHTS. I like my mice heavy. This was a major selling point. 3) Looks like I can use it as a southpaw. The feel of my mouse is everything. I care about it more than other features. I almost settled on a wireless because of the weight of the batteries but I'll take this. And it gets delivered same day. Woo!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
Presumably you’ve already purchased and received your new mouse. I hope it’s all you want it to be. I’ve been using a gaming mouse for the past several years. Not that I do any gaming, but the resolution and longevity seem to be on the upper end of the spectrum. It’s a Roccat mouse. It’s programmable, but again, my needs are simple, so I don’t use much of that. Many years ago I used a regular mouse, but my shoulder started getting twingey so I switched to a roller-ball style for a decade or so. Later I switched to using a Wacom tablet/pad. I know: “those are for graphic artists”. Oh no. Best pointing device ever. Point-to-point mapping so you don’t have to drag the mouse to move the pointer, multi-functional stylus, etc. After I retired I downsized my workspace and so moved back to a standard (gaming) mouse. I think one should explore all the options since you spend so much time with it. Cheers and good times! :)
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