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  • J jmaida

    Das did not have a keyboard that met my requirements. Wired keyboard. I bought this one: Perixx PERIBOARD-220H US Single USB cable from keyboard to computer. 2 side mounted USB ports on keyboard for regular mouse and 3DConnexion mouse. I tried: Das Keyboard Model S Professional Wired Mechanical Keyboard, Cherry MX Brown Mechanical Switches, 2-Port USB Hub It required 2 ports on computer. Did not work properly with both mouse and keyboard. Maybe I misunderstood when I bought it, but had to return it.

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    jackbrownii
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    It's not the newest model Das, but it has one cable and two USB ports on the keyboard. Das Keyboard 4 Pro

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    • M Michael B Hansen

      Interesting that I'm apparently not the only one having issues. I believe my problems are a combination of 3 things: 1) I suspect that the USB hub itself has some issues: I suspect power delivery but I'm not sure. 2) The USB cords themselves have some loose connections within. If I don't place them just right or accidentally move them the whole keyboard including any attached devices through the USB hub will disconnect. This is the main problem I have on my 2xPro4. 3) The USB plug on my 4Q came with a bent plug. I managed to bend it back into shape so I could use it - but it's not perfect. In general, the USB hub on my 2xPro4 are basically useless - and I have been forced to retire 1 keyboard already because of this. And I am currently hoping that my favorite keyboard (Topre) comes back into production so I can retire my second Pro4. I have had a lot(!!!) of keyboards through the years - and I have never had any issues out-of-the-box with any of them except DasKeyboard. How and why did I end up with 3 then? Well, the 4Q was bought first - and although annoying with the bent USB plug - I got it working and thought that I just was unlucky. The 2xPro4 was bought at the same time for business use with the USB Hub as a major selling point. I didn't notice the problems at first - and it took a little bit of time to figure out exactly which of many USB devices was disconnecting/reconnecting at random. I finally found USBDeview[^] which definitely pointed the blame at DasKeyboard. I should of course have sent them back, but - well - couldn't be bothered with the hassle and just won't ever buy DasKeyboard again.

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      honey the codewitch
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      Power could definitely be an issue as Das keyboards are USB 2.0 and more bandwidth than a regular keyboard due to NKRO and high scan frequency.

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      • H honey the codewitch

        You will fall absolutely in love with them and they will have hooked you into being a lifetime customer. It's all about control. *adjusts foil hat*

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        StatementTerminator
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        I have several, going back to the original with blank keys. They were a great alternative to the ubiquitous rubber-dome keyboards back then, but the world is full of mechanical keyboards now. There's nothing particularly special about Das these days. These days I mostly use hot-swappable Keychrons, and customize them. At the end of the day, a mechanical keyboard is just a platform for switches and keycaps. It's the switches and keycaps that really matter.

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        • S StatementTerminator

          I have several, going back to the original with blank keys. They were a great alternative to the ubiquitous rubber-dome keyboards back then, but the world is full of mechanical keyboards now. There's nothing particularly special about Das these days. These days I mostly use hot-swappable Keychrons, and customize them. At the end of the day, a mechanical keyboard is just a platform for switches and keycaps. It's the switches and keycaps that really matter.

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          honey the codewitch
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          Having owned mechanical keyboards I don't agree with your assessment of Das. Omron Gamma Zulu switches feel crisper to me than the Cherries I've tried. The keycaps are mildly lit, which is a nice feature at night without being overbearing - they're not lit at the base, only the symbol itself. And build quality matters. This keyboard doesn't flex. It also has NKRO and individual scanning which is important for gamers and fast typists.

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          • H honey the codewitch

            You will fall absolutely in love with them and they will have hooked you into being a lifetime customer. It's all about control. *adjusts foil hat*

            There's smoke in my iris But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids So I'm ready now (What you ready for?) I'm ready for life in this city And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me

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            David ONeil
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            I broke down week before last and ordered one based on your recommendation. Went back and forth on the 5QS and the 4Q, because I thought I wanted clickier keys. And the Amazon reviews are not great on the 5QS. But in the end I trusted you. It came in last Friday. Only had a chance to play with it for about 45 minutes since then, as I went out of town. Very nice! Feels like my typing sped up with it. For the fun of it I put it on 'cycle colors'. I wish you could slow down the transition speed. Picky, I know! :laugh:

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              I broke down week before last and ordered one based on your recommendation. Went back and forth on the 5QS and the 4Q, because I thought I wanted clickier keys. And the Amazon reviews are not great on the 5QS. But in the end I trusted you. It came in last Friday. Only had a chance to play with it for about 45 minutes since then, as I went out of town. Very nice! Feels like my typing sped up with it. For the fun of it I put it on 'cycle colors'. I wish you could slow down the transition speed. Picky, I know! :laugh:

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              honey the codewitch
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              I'm glad you like it. I'd hate to think I gave a bad recommendation. I still love my Das5QS. Don't care about the haters. :laugh:

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              • J jackbrownii

                It's not the newest model Das, but it has one cable and two USB ports on the keyboard. Das Keyboard 4 Pro

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                jmaida
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                It does have the specs I want. A little pricey, though. Thanx.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  I like mine as well. My only criticism is the Num Lock LED is seriously bright: when I turn the PC on in the morning it still glares in my eyes every damn time.

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                  englebart
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                  Buy a sleeping mask, and then lay it over the LED. Or a speck of used chewing gum… that will dissuade others from touching the keyboard.

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                  • F fgs1963

                    Care to share the details? I have a Chromebox and a Linux Mint box. Each has their own KB & mouse with each computer having one USB dongle to drive the KB & mouse. I’d love to share one KB & mouse but prefer wireless for everything (I freakin hate cables).

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                    englebart
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                    You should be able to use a KVM with wireless mouse and wireless keyboard, but you would have a single cable from the KVM switch to each computer. Might not be worth it if you move stuff around a lot.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Seriously, this thing is bright: I have it running through a KVM (so I can manage my NAS with the same monitor, KB, and mouse) so unless I turn off the switch as well, it glows all night - and it paints a bright blue circle on the ceiling!

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                      Roger Wright
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                      Wow! I keep my PC away from sleeping quarters for noise, so I've never noticed that effect. The KVM is a good idea, though!

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                        Wow! I keep my PC away from sleeping quarters for noise, so I've never noticed that effect. The KVM is a good idea, though!

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        I use this one: Hardware Review: Logitech ERGO M575 Trackball and TESmart 4K 60Hz 4:4:4 KVM Switch[^]

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        • E englebart

                          You should be able to use a KVM with wireless mouse and wireless keyboard, but you would have a single cable from the KVM switch to each computer. Might not be worth it if you move stuff around a lot.

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                          Yeah, not a fan of KVMs. I'm told some don't work so well with wireless KBs/mice and it's kind of hit or miss. Also not a fan of Bluetooth KBs/mice (too much lag). What I'd like is a KB / mouse combo that supports 2 USB unified receivers. Pop a USB into each computer and use a button on the KB / mouse to switch between receivers. I just can't find anything that explicitly says they can do that.

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            You will fall absolutely in love with them and they will have hooked you into being a lifetime customer. It's all about control. *adjusts foil hat*

                            There's smoke in my iris But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids So I'm ready now (What you ready for?) I'm ready for life in this city And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me

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                            Mark Starr
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                            Yup. Bought mine in 2014. Wired, Cherry MX Brown switches. Love it. Kinda wish sometimes it'd wear out so I could buy buy a backlit model, but looks like I'll be using this one for a lot longer.

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                            • M Mark Starr

                              Yup. Bought mine in 2014. Wired, Cherry MX Brown switches. Love it. Kinda wish sometimes it'd wear out so I could buy buy a backlit model, but looks like I'll be using this one for a lot longer.

                              Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                              jschell
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                              But to be fair it will wear out someday. Like perhaps right in the middle of the day when you are trying to get the production system back up. So buy a new one now and the old one then becomes your back up.

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                              • B BBar2

                                If you want mechanical and ergonomic, take a look at the Feker Alice 80. I have an Alice 80 and love it. I had to add a numeric keypad to go along side it. I see there is a newer model, the Feker Alice 98 that includes the keypad and a full set of function keys. I'd probably go for that today, but like my current Alice 80 too much to make a change.

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                                BernardIE5317
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                                thanks for recommending the Feker . i am sorry to say it is not for me . i looked at the Alice 98 . i found no [End] [Pause/Break] nearby [Del] all of which i rely on . thanks again cheerios

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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  Wow! I keep my PC away from sleeping quarters for noise, so I've never noticed that effect. The KVM is a good idea, though!

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  pmauriks
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                                  Black nail polish. Put a thin veneer on the LED - the same way people darken their tailights. Try it in an inconspicuous area first. . .

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                                    I use this one: Hardware Review: Logitech ERGO M575 Trackball and TESmart 4K 60Hz 4:4:4 KVM Switch[^]

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                    Roger Wright
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                                    Nice review! I've tried trackballs in the past and hated them, but everyone gets a choice. I rushed out and bought an expensive touchpad back when they were a novel add-on; hated that, too. Oh well, there's no pleasing some people.

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    • H honey the codewitch

                                      I'm glad you like it. I'd hate to think I gave a bad recommendation. I still love my Das5QS. Don't care about the haters. :laugh:

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                                      David ONeil
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                                      As a follow-up - Yes, I fully love typing on this thing now! Part of me remembers the old IBM keyboards, and thinks they come close. But a larger part thinks I'm mis-remembering, because this keyboard absolutely rocks! Even though I'm not a fast keyboardist (~60 wpm), I feel faster on it. Thanks!

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