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  • K Kevin Marois

    How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

    In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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    RickZeeland
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    Have not used this myself, but it looks interesting: Linq To DB[^] It supports popular databases like MS Access, MS SQL Server, PostgreSQL, MariaDB, SQLite, Firebird, DB2, Informix and Oracle.

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    • K Kevin Marois

      How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

      In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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      Slacker007
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      Our shop still uses it from time to time. We mostly use EF, but there are queries we will write using Linq2Sql

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      • M Marc Clifton

        I use all three: Dapper Linq2SQL EF Depends on the project, but the combination is only Dapper+Linq2SQL or Dapper+EF. Much of what I do is highly abstracted, SQL generated on the fly, so Dapper is a godsend. And unless I'm doing business logic on something, mirroring the models in C# is just stupid, in my opinionated opinion. :laugh:

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        Slacker007
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        Marc Clifton wrote:

        Dapper Linq2SQL EF

        We use these 3 as well in our shop.

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        • M Marc Clifton

          I use all three: Dapper Linq2SQL EF Depends on the project, but the combination is only Dapper+Linq2SQL or Dapper+EF. Much of what I do is highly abstracted, SQL generated on the fly, so Dapper is a godsend. And unless I'm doing business logic on something, mirroring the models in C# is just stupid, in my opinionated opinion. :laugh:

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          FreedMalloc
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          Quote:

          ... in my opinionated opinion.

          Hey, if you're going to have an opinion, that's the only kind to have! :laugh:

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          • FreedMallocF FreedMalloc

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            ... in my opinionated opinion.

            Hey, if you're going to have an opinion, that's the only kind to have! :laugh:

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            Slacker007
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            How come opine is similar to a tree and opinion is similar to an onion?

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            • K Kevin Marois

              How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

              In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              I don't use either these days, but I haven't touched anything .NET related in like 7 years. Seems like forever. Nothing against them. These days I'm in the Node ecosystem.

              Jeremy Falcon

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              • K Kevin Marois

                How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

                In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                OriginalGriff
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                Neither: I use SQLConnector, SQLCommand, and Reader / Adapter and DataTable as necessary.

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                • S Slacker007

                  How come opine is similar to a tree and opinion is similar to an onion?

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  Slacker007 wrote:

                  opinion is similar to an onion

                  Or similar to just winging it.

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Neither: I use SQLConnector, SQLCommand, and Reader / Adapter and DataTable as necessary.

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    IDbConnection, IDbCommand, IDataReader, IDbDataParameter, DataTable, DataView. I can use any database system which provides an ADO.net provider/connector (and preferably SQL-92). By the same token, I can implement a class which is not a database but which provides an IDataReader. No adapters, I stopped using those years ago; too much trouble. If I recall correctly, the biggest issue I had with an adapter was that it implements concurrency protection (I may have that wrong) which can't be configured off and every once in a while an update would fail because of it -- when in fact having two updates for one record in the same batch was perfectly fine for the particular situation. So I stopped using them and never looked back.

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                    • K Kevin Marois

                      How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

                      In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                      Mike Hankey
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                      I use Linq-to-SQL for SQLite in a couple of projects and EF on a couple, I guess depends on the project.

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

                        In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                        I don't have more than a vague idea of what you're even talking about. :laugh:

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                        • R RickZeeland

                          Have not used this myself, but it looks interesting: Linq To DB[^] It supports popular databases like MS Access, MS SQL Server, PostgreSQL, MariaDB, SQLite, Firebird, DB2, Informix and Oracle.

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                          Kevin Marois
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                          Interesting

                          In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                          • K Kevin Marois

                            How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

                            In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                            Stepan Hakobyan
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                            Neither. Using Dapper or SQLCommand, Reader.

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                            • K Kevin Marois

                              How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

                              In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                              Sander Rossel
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                              Isn't LINQ To SQL ancient history? :~ I'm using the latest versions of EF myself. Code first and migrations for automatic deployment.

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                Never neither. I just use straight ADO.net for access to whatever database system I need to connect to. If I understand correctly, those connect only to SQL Server. Using ADO.net allows an application to connect to multiple database systems, even allowing the user to specify which at run time if the application is written that way.

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                                Sander Rossel
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                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                If I understand correctly, those connect only to SQL Server.

                                You understand incorrectly then. EF uses ADO.NET under the hood and also supports SQLite, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Azure Cosmos DB, Firebird, Oracle...

                                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                Using ADO.net allows an application to connect to multiple database systems, even allowing the user to specify which at run time if the application is written that way.

                                How often is that a requirement? :~

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                                • K Kevin Marois

                                  How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

                                  In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                                  darktrick544
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                                  Never used either, I don't mind writing the code myself.

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                                  • K Kevin Marois

                                    How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

                                    In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                                    WPerkins
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                                    Linq-To-SQL

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                                    • K Kevin Marois

                                      How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

                                      In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                                      kmoorevs
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                                      Kevin Marois wrote:

                                      Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework

                                      Neither. It's usually sqlclient unless I have to target non-sql server, then it's ado.net. I use datareaders or adapters to fill datasets/datatables. CRUD statements are all hand-rolled.

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                                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                        If I understand correctly, those connect only to SQL Server.

                                        You understand incorrectly then. EF uses ADO.NET under the hood and also supports SQLite, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Azure Cosmos DB, Firebird, Oracle...

                                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                        Using ADO.net allows an application to connect to multiple database systems, even allowing the user to specify which at run time if the application is written that way.

                                        How often is that a requirement? :~

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        More often for me than for others probably.

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                                        • K Kevin Marois

                                          How many of you are still using Linq-To-SQL versus Entity Framework?

                                          In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                                          vbproapps
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                                          I do not use either for Database data, Entity Framework has always had bugs and a lot of overhead that is not necessary in the name of convenience. LINQ is actually awesome with arrays and datsets but not for database query functions. For MS SQL Db SqlConnector SqlCommand SqlAdapter are best in my opinion. For all others, ODBCConnector ODBC Command and ODBCDataAdapter. MySQL would use MySqlData.DLL data connectors and for Oracle use ODP.net. You get the picture right!

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