Teams meetings?
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Hi All, I have just walked past a proper :wtf: moment. A teams meeting between 5 people sat in the office, two next to each other. I know Teams meetings are the norm now but come on a meeting room :java:, biscuits & white board is how I have always designed my most successful products that way. I suppose the only thing could be record of the meeting from the look of it wasn't being recorded... "Working from home" carried into the office? Glenn
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Hi All, I have just walked past a proper :wtf: moment. A teams meeting between 5 people sat in the office, two next to each other. I know Teams meetings are the norm now but come on a meeting room :java:, biscuits & white board is how I have always designed my most successful products that way. I suppose the only thing could be record of the meeting from the look of it wasn't being recorded... "Working from home" carried into the office? Glenn
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A very long time ago there was a story about a manager and an engineer both working on a Saturday. They kept emailing back and forth until the engineer just got up and walked 20 feet into the manager's office. Yeah, the Teams thing is getting absurd.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
I believe that it was in 1983 (maybe 1984) when a co-worker down the corridor sent me an email, asking if we should go to the movies that night. When I asked why he didn't come to my office to ask, he didn't see the point: Using email, he could ask me without leaving his desk. That was 40 years ago. Maybe we shouldn't complain about kids today being lazy.
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I believe that it was in 1983 (maybe 1984) when a co-worker down the corridor sent me an email, asking if we should go to the movies that night. When I asked why he didn't come to my office to ask, he didn't see the point: Using email, he could ask me without leaving his desk. That was 40 years ago. Maybe we shouldn't complain about kids today being lazy.
So it's not new? the forum has changed though.
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Hi All, I have just walked past a proper :wtf: moment. A teams meeting between 5 people sat in the office, two next to each other. I know Teams meetings are the norm now but come on a meeting room :java:, biscuits & white board is how I have always designed my most successful products that way. I suppose the only thing could be record of the meeting from the look of it wasn't being recorded... "Working from home" carried into the office? Glenn
I hate it, specially because I hear people in the room twice (real sound and headsets). If I am in a meeting with more people and someone is in the same room, I change the room. If all are in the same room, I just tell them to come over to my desk and if anyone else is going to share the screen and talk the most time, then I change the room.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I believe that it was in 1983 (maybe 1984) when a co-worker down the corridor sent me an email, asking if we should go to the movies that night. When I asked why he didn't come to my office to ask, he didn't see the point: Using email, he could ask me without leaving his desk. That was 40 years ago. Maybe we shouldn't complain about kids today being lazy.
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Hi All, I have just walked past a proper :wtf: moment. A teams meeting between 5 people sat in the office, two next to each other. I know Teams meetings are the norm now but come on a meeting room :java:, biscuits & white board is how I have always designed my most successful products that way. I suppose the only thing could be record of the meeting from the look of it wasn't being recorded... "Working from home" carried into the office? Glenn
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Hi All, I have just walked past a proper :wtf: moment. A teams meeting between 5 people sat in the office, two next to each other. I know Teams meetings are the norm now but come on a meeting room :java:, biscuits & white board is how I have always designed my most successful products that way. I suppose the only thing could be record of the meeting from the look of it wasn't being recorded... "Working from home" carried into the office? Glenn
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Hi All, I have just walked past a proper :wtf: moment. A teams meeting between 5 people sat in the office, two next to each other. I know Teams meetings are the norm now but come on a meeting room :java:, biscuits & white board is how I have always designed my most successful products that way. I suppose the only thing could be record of the meeting from the look of it wasn't being recorded... "Working from home" carried into the office? Glenn
Hmm, I think I'm going to disagree to some extent, or at least in many situations. Teams/Zoom has become the norm for more than laziness. I believe it may be over the top if the participants are all close to each other in the same building, on the same floor, and a conference room is handy, but in most other cases, not so much. - If any user is remote and on teams, then all should be. Most conference rooms don't have the advanced 'speaker based' camera systems so it can be hard to tell who's talking and sometimes they may not even be totally visible. - If anyone has to travel more than a few minutes, the time lost even without counting any social time that may come up, can be substantial. - Some meetings are not that active and I've gotten lots of work done just lurking. In other cases, I can write some notes or even outline a code block of the discussion during the meeting. I have all the tools right in front of me and although I can bring a tablet or laptop to a meeting, it's not the same thing. Is being head down in your laptop any different than an online meeting? - Again to time, online meetings tend to start and end on time. Sure, there are exceptions. So the hour you block out for the meeting is generally pretty close to an hour. I'm a social person and like in-person meetings but in review of pre and post pandemic, most in-person meetings added time due to both the social piece and inefficiency.
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I believe that it was in 1983 (maybe 1984) when a co-worker down the corridor sent me an email, asking if we should go to the movies that night. When I asked why he didn't come to my office to ask, he didn't see the point: Using email, he could ask me without leaving his desk. That was 40 years ago. Maybe we shouldn't complain about kids today being lazy.
When I was in college, back when most folks had to go to the computer lab to get on a computer, I was early to class and talking with a girl who was also early. Another girl came in and said, "I just sent you an email." The first girl got up and jogged down to the computer lab. When she came back she said, "I sent you a reply." The second girl then got up and jogged down to the computer lab to read it. Maybe its not laziness, maybe its just stupidity.
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Hi All, I have just walked past a proper :wtf: moment. A teams meeting between 5 people sat in the office, two next to each other. I know Teams meetings are the norm now but come on a meeting room :java:, biscuits & white board is how I have always designed my most successful products that way. I suppose the only thing could be record of the meeting from the look of it wasn't being recorded... "Working from home" carried into the office? Glenn
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Hi All, I have just walked past a proper :wtf: moment. A teams meeting between 5 people sat in the office, two next to each other. I know Teams meetings are the norm now but come on a meeting room :java:, biscuits & white board is how I have always designed my most successful products that way. I suppose the only thing could be record of the meeting from the look of it wasn't being recorded... "Working from home" carried into the office? Glenn
if 2 are in office and 3 are virtual. It should be totally virtual. One thing I notice is that if 2+ people are in a conference room they will have sidebar conversations that actually disrupt the meeting if the rest of the people are online. Either fully in person or fully virtual. The hybrid approach usually does not work. imho.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Hi All, I have just walked past a proper :wtf: moment. A teams meeting between 5 people sat in the office, two next to each other. I know Teams meetings are the norm now but come on a meeting room :java:, biscuits & white board is how I have always designed my most successful products that way. I suppose the only thing could be record of the meeting from the look of it wasn't being recorded... "Working from home" carried into the office? Glenn
If Teams wasn't so buggy, then maybe I could understand, but personally I think it's a pile of ... I'm forced to use it for work and school. Fortunately, I'm on my last class for my master's degree, so the pain will be reduced somewhat.
Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere
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When I was in college, back when most folks had to go to the computer lab to get on a computer, I was early to class and talking with a girl who was also early. Another girl came in and said, "I just sent you an email." The first girl got up and jogged down to the computer lab. When she came back she said, "I sent you a reply." The second girl then got up and jogged down to the computer lab to read it. Maybe its not laziness, maybe its just stupidity.
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Hmm, I think I'm going to disagree to some extent, or at least in many situations. Teams/Zoom has become the norm for more than laziness. I believe it may be over the top if the participants are all close to each other in the same building, on the same floor, and a conference room is handy, but in most other cases, not so much. - If any user is remote and on teams, then all should be. Most conference rooms don't have the advanced 'speaker based' camera systems so it can be hard to tell who's talking and sometimes they may not even be totally visible. - If anyone has to travel more than a few minutes, the time lost even without counting any social time that may come up, can be substantial. - Some meetings are not that active and I've gotten lots of work done just lurking. In other cases, I can write some notes or even outline a code block of the discussion during the meeting. I have all the tools right in front of me and although I can bring a tablet or laptop to a meeting, it's not the same thing. Is being head down in your laptop any different than an online meeting? - Again to time, online meetings tend to start and end on time. Sure, there are exceptions. So the hour you block out for the meeting is generally pretty close to an hour. I'm a social person and like in-person meetings but in review of pre and post pandemic, most in-person meetings added time due to both the social piece and inefficiency.
We have one of the speaker based camera systems in the office. The first day we had it, it was comical. We were goofing around to get it to pan and zoom and the meeting was totally unproductive... After using it for a week, everybody hates it. The auto panning/zooming of the camera to the speaker makes people uncomfortable. We disable it whenever it is enabled.
Hogan
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I hate it, specially because I hear people in the room twice (real sound and headsets). If I am in a meeting with more people and someone is in the same room, I change the room. If all are in the same room, I just tell them to come over to my desk and if anyone else is going to share the screen and talk the most time, then I change the room.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Hmm, I think I'm going to disagree to some extent, or at least in many situations. Teams/Zoom has become the norm for more than laziness. I believe it may be over the top if the participants are all close to each other in the same building, on the same floor, and a conference room is handy, but in most other cases, not so much. - If any user is remote and on teams, then all should be. Most conference rooms don't have the advanced 'speaker based' camera systems so it can be hard to tell who's talking and sometimes they may not even be totally visible. - If anyone has to travel more than a few minutes, the time lost even without counting any social time that may come up, can be substantial. - Some meetings are not that active and I've gotten lots of work done just lurking. In other cases, I can write some notes or even outline a code block of the discussion during the meeting. I have all the tools right in front of me and although I can bring a tablet or laptop to a meeting, it's not the same thing. Is being head down in your laptop any different than an online meeting? - Again to time, online meetings tend to start and end on time. Sure, there are exceptions. So the hour you block out for the meeting is generally pretty close to an hour. I'm a social person and like in-person meetings but in review of pre and post pandemic, most in-person meetings added time due to both the social piece and inefficiency.
MikeCO10 wrote:
Most conference rooms don't have the advanced 'speaker based' camera systems so it can be hard to tell who's talking and sometimes they may not even be totally visible.
I have been in those rooms. Usually takes about 15 minutes to get it set up correctly. Then you have people dribbling up to the front of the room so they can get to the spot where the camera actually works.
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Well I suspect then it was the novelty. But could also be because they didn't want to discuss something in front of you.
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Hi All, I have just walked past a proper :wtf: moment. A teams meeting between 5 people sat in the office, two next to each other. I know Teams meetings are the norm now but come on a meeting room :java:, biscuits & white board is how I have always designed my most successful products that way. I suppose the only thing could be record of the meeting from the look of it wasn't being recorded... "Working from home" carried into the office? Glenn
glennPattonWork3 wrote:
how I have always designed my most successful products that way.
My most successful product was developed that way. 6 days a week in the office. I was only putting in 60-70 hours a week. (I say only because I know others who were doing more.) A total hour commute. No snow days - roads would have had to have been impassable. Weekly meetings had about 30 people crammed into a room that was at best only suited for 20. Then there was the in person company where the daily standup where we actually stood started off every single time with the general manager rambling on about random stuff for 15-30 minutes. Not to mention showing up at the meeting room to find out that, because there are at least two ways to reserve it, that the room is not in fact reserved because the the person that scheduled it did not use the 'right' way to do it. Ended up having a meeting in a hallway at least once because of that. Myself I like online team meetings. Regardless of software. Quite a bit. And they have gotten quite a bit better over time. So much so that the only problem I have had for several years have been on my side.
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I believe that it was in 1983 (maybe 1984) when a co-worker down the corridor sent me an email, asking if we should go to the movies that night. When I asked why he didn't come to my office to ask, he didn't see the point: Using email, he could ask me without leaving his desk. That was 40 years ago. Maybe we shouldn't complain about kids today being lazy.
