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  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

    Did they remove the subtraction function from calculators? :)

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    trønderen
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    No, but in IT schools they made teaching or use of SVN forbidden.

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      No, but in IT schools they made teaching or use of SVN forbidden.

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      Mike Hankey
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      A travesty, all students should be exposed to the alternatives. I used SVN for years, it ain't so bad!

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      • N Nelek

        Alternative Math | Short Film - YouTube[^] Worth seeing

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        Definitely worth seeing! It really hits the nail on the head. I guess that pointing out in which ways would violate the rules of The Lounge.

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          My wife just told me she heard a rumor that some elementary schools have stopped teaching subtraction. :sigh:

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          Amarnath S
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          Maybe they subtracted subtraction from elementary schools and added it to the high school syllabus.

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            My wife just told me she heard a rumor that some elementary schools have stopped teaching subtraction. :sigh:

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            Thanks to YouTube et al., my children know far more math than I did at their age.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Next, the number 666 will be removed from math, sort of like why buildings didn't/don't have a 13th floor.

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              Early tall-building designers, fearing a fire on the 13th floor, or fearing tenants' superstitions about the rumor, decided to omit having a 13th floor listed on their elevator numbering. This practice became commonplace, and eventually found its way into American mainstream culture and building design.

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              It's already worse than that - American buildings must be based on VB. The floor numbers are 1-based, with no sign of 0 (the ground floor) anywhere. :laugh:


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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                My wife just told me she heard a rumor that some elementary schools have stopped teaching subtraction. :sigh:

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                You don't need subtraction. You just need to learn addition of negative numbers... :-\

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                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                  It's already worse than that - American buildings must be based on VB. The floor numbers are 1-based, with no sign of 0 (the ground floor) anywhere. :laugh:


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                  ChandraRam
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                  Are you saying VB is 1-based? :confused: Not as far as I know...

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                    Are you saying VB is 1-based? :confused: Not as far as I know...

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                    Richard Deeming
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                    VB's legacy string functions certainly are:

                    Strings.Mid Method (Microsoft.VisualBasic) | Microsoft Learn[^]:

                    ' Creates text string.
                    Dim testString As String = "Mid Function Demo"
                    ' Returns "Mid".
                    Dim firstWord As String = Mid(testString, 1, 3)
                    ' Returns "Demo".
                    Dim lastWord As String = Mid(testString, 14, 4)
                    ' Returns "Function Demo".
                    Dim midWords As String = Mid(testString, 5)


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                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                      VB's legacy string functions certainly are:

                      Strings.Mid Method (Microsoft.VisualBasic) | Microsoft Learn[^]:

                      ' Creates text string.
                      Dim testString As String = "Mid Function Demo"
                      ' Returns "Mid".
                      Dim firstWord As String = Mid(testString, 1, 3)
                      ' Returns "Demo".
                      Dim lastWord As String = Mid(testString, 14, 4)
                      ' Returns "Function Demo".
                      Dim midWords As String = Mid(testString, 5)


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                      Well... arrays are 0-based, afaik. I would argue, though... when asked for the first letter of your name, do you say "R" or "I" :)

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                      • C ChandraRam

                        Well... arrays are 0-based, afaik. I would argue, though... when asked for the first letter of your name, do you say "R" or "I" :)

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                        They are now; but VB.NET still declares arrays by specifying the upper bound, rather than the length, because of the legacy syntax. :)

                        Arrays - Visual Basic | Microsoft Learn[^]

                        ' Declare a single-dimension array of 5 numbers.
                        Dim numbers(4) As Integer

                        In VB6 and earlier, you could use:

                        Dim numbers(1 To 42)

                        which would create an array with 1-based indices. The lower bound was optional, and the default could be changed by using the Option Base setting, leading to confusing code with hard to find bugs.


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                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                          They are now; but VB.NET still declares arrays by specifying the upper bound, rather than the length, because of the legacy syntax. :)

                          Arrays - Visual Basic | Microsoft Learn[^]

                          ' Declare a single-dimension array of 5 numbers.
                          Dim numbers(4) As Integer

                          In VB6 and earlier, you could use:

                          Dim numbers(1 To 42)

                          which would create an array with 1-based indices. The lower bound was optional, and the default could be changed by using the Option Base setting, leading to confusing code with hard to find bugs.


                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                          ChandraRam
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                          Richard Deeming wrote:

                          The lower bound was optional, and the default could be changed by using the Option Base setting, leading to confusing code with hard to find bugs.

                          This is definitely a problem, I agree.

                          Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            My wife just told me she heard a rumor that some elementary schools have stopped teaching subtraction. :sigh:

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                            BernardIE5317
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                            rather amazing w/ a simple visual / graphical proof : "Can you change a sum by rearranging its numbers? --- The Riemann Series Theorem" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0w0f0PDdPA[^]

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                            • T trønderen

                              Definitely worth seeing! It really hits the nail on the head. I guess that pointing out in which ways would violate the rules of The Lounge.

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                              Nelek
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                              trønderen wrote:

                              I guess that pointing out in which ways would violate the rules of The Lounge.

                              That's why I just shared the video and said nothing else :rolleyes: :-D

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              • C ChandraRam

                                Well... arrays are 0-based, afaik. I would argue, though... when asked for the first letter of your name, do you say "R" or "I" :)

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                                Young software people of today believe that 0-based arrays is a law of nature, just like 1+1=2 (or possibly 11, in some interpreted, weakly typed languages). They never programmed in Pascal, Algol, Ada, Fortran, APL ... An aside: A Korean guy told me that in Korean culture, a person's age is 1-based (besides being based on a moon calendar): The first 12 months (/moons) of a baby's life, he is 1 years old. After completing one year, starting on the second, he is two. In older European prose it is not uncommon to see wordings such as "When I was in my fourteenth year", which means at age 13. Also, centuries are 1-based.

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                                • R RickZeeland

                                  To keep up with modern trends they are now teaching subversion :-\

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                                  Gary Wheeler
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                                  Aw c'mon dammit... I'm just learning git and now you want to learn that?

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                                  • P PIEBALDconsult

                                    My wife just told me she heard a rumor that some elementary schools have stopped teaching subtraction. :sigh:

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                                    Roger Wright
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                                    Not surprising, since the snowflakes avoid anything negative, whether it involves reality or not.

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                                    • R Roger Wright

                                      Not surprising, since the snowflakes avoid anything negative, whether it involves reality or not.

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      We are all snowflakes, hence the term.

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