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  • M Marc Clifton

    Next, the number 666 will be removed from math, sort of like why buildings didn't/don't have a 13th floor.

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    Early tall-building designers, fearing a fire on the 13th floor, or fearing tenants' superstitions about the rumor, decided to omit having a 13th floor listed on their elevator numbering. This practice became commonplace, and eventually found its way into American mainstream culture and building design.

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    Richard Deeming
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    It's already worse than that - American buildings must be based on VB. The floor numbers are 1-based, with no sign of 0 (the ground floor) anywhere. :laugh:


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      My wife just told me she heard a rumor that some elementary schools have stopped teaching subtraction. :sigh:

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      You don't need subtraction. You just need to learn addition of negative numbers... :-\

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      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

        It's already worse than that - American buildings must be based on VB. The floor numbers are 1-based, with no sign of 0 (the ground floor) anywhere. :laugh:


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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        ChandraRam
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        Are you saying VB is 1-based? :confused: Not as far as I know...

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          Are you saying VB is 1-based? :confused: Not as far as I know...

          Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon

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          VB's legacy string functions certainly are:

          Strings.Mid Method (Microsoft.VisualBasic) | Microsoft Learn[^]:

          ' Creates text string.
          Dim testString As String = "Mid Function Demo"
          ' Returns "Mid".
          Dim firstWord As String = Mid(testString, 1, 3)
          ' Returns "Demo".
          Dim lastWord As String = Mid(testString, 14, 4)
          ' Returns "Function Demo".
          Dim midWords As String = Mid(testString, 5)


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          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

            VB's legacy string functions certainly are:

            Strings.Mid Method (Microsoft.VisualBasic) | Microsoft Learn[^]:

            ' Creates text string.
            Dim testString As String = "Mid Function Demo"
            ' Returns "Mid".
            Dim firstWord As String = Mid(testString, 1, 3)
            ' Returns "Demo".
            Dim lastWord As String = Mid(testString, 14, 4)
            ' Returns "Function Demo".
            Dim midWords As String = Mid(testString, 5)


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            Well... arrays are 0-based, afaik. I would argue, though... when asked for the first letter of your name, do you say "R" or "I" :)

            Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon

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            • C ChandraRam

              Well... arrays are 0-based, afaik. I would argue, though... when asked for the first letter of your name, do you say "R" or "I" :)

              Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon

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              They are now; but VB.NET still declares arrays by specifying the upper bound, rather than the length, because of the legacy syntax. :)

              Arrays - Visual Basic | Microsoft Learn[^]

              ' Declare a single-dimension array of 5 numbers.
              Dim numbers(4) As Integer

              In VB6 and earlier, you could use:

              Dim numbers(1 To 42)

              which would create an array with 1-based indices. The lower bound was optional, and the default could be changed by using the Option Base setting, leading to confusing code with hard to find bugs.


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              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                They are now; but VB.NET still declares arrays by specifying the upper bound, rather than the length, because of the legacy syntax. :)

                Arrays - Visual Basic | Microsoft Learn[^]

                ' Declare a single-dimension array of 5 numbers.
                Dim numbers(4) As Integer

                In VB6 and earlier, you could use:

                Dim numbers(1 To 42)

                which would create an array with 1-based indices. The lower bound was optional, and the default could be changed by using the Option Base setting, leading to confusing code with hard to find bugs.


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                Richard Deeming wrote:

                The lower bound was optional, and the default could be changed by using the Option Base setting, leading to confusing code with hard to find bugs.

                This is definitely a problem, I agree.

                Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  My wife just told me she heard a rumor that some elementary schools have stopped teaching subtraction. :sigh:

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                  BernardIE5317
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                  rather amazing w/ a simple visual / graphical proof : "Can you change a sum by rearranging its numbers? --- The Riemann Series Theorem" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0w0f0PDdPA[^]

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                  • T trønderen

                    Definitely worth seeing! It really hits the nail on the head. I guess that pointing out in which ways would violate the rules of The Lounge.

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                    Nelek
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                    trønderen wrote:

                    I guess that pointing out in which ways would violate the rules of The Lounge.

                    That's why I just shared the video and said nothing else :rolleyes: :-D

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                    • C ChandraRam

                      Well... arrays are 0-based, afaik. I would argue, though... when asked for the first letter of your name, do you say "R" or "I" :)

                      Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon

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                      Young software people of today believe that 0-based arrays is a law of nature, just like 1+1=2 (or possibly 11, in some interpreted, weakly typed languages). They never programmed in Pascal, Algol, Ada, Fortran, APL ... An aside: A Korean guy told me that in Korean culture, a person's age is 1-based (besides being based on a moon calendar): The first 12 months (/moons) of a baby's life, he is 1 years old. After completing one year, starting on the second, he is two. In older European prose it is not uncommon to see wordings such as "When I was in my fourteenth year", which means at age 13. Also, centuries are 1-based.

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                      • R RickZeeland

                        To keep up with modern trends they are now teaching subversion :-\

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                        Gary Wheeler
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                        Aw c'mon dammit... I'm just learning git and now you want to learn that?

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                        • P PIEBALDconsult

                          My wife just told me she heard a rumor that some elementary schools have stopped teaching subtraction. :sigh:

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                          Roger Wright
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                          Not surprising, since the snowflakes avoid anything negative, whether it involves reality or not.

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                            Not surprising, since the snowflakes avoid anything negative, whether it involves reality or not.

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            We are all snowflakes, hence the term.

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