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Seriously, Google, my eyes can't roll anymore!

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  • D David ONeil

    After going to google.com and entering your search, after the results show up, click on the 'Tools' button under the ~header, or whatever you want to call it. Then change 'All results' to 'Verbatim'. Then you will probably get my crappy results. I had an extension that automatically changed everything to a verbatim search, but it looks like I'll have to remove that one now.

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    Lost User
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    Well that certainly skews the results, and not in a good way. Glad I didn't know about it.

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      Well that certainly skews the results, and not in a good way. Glad I didn't know about it.

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      David ONeil
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      Yeah. Before three to six months ago or so, Verbatim _consistently_ gave me far better results than a normal search. I was a power user, and could narrow things down with great specificity. I haven't been able to do that lately.

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      • D David ONeil

        Just did a search for "javascript force to a number", since I was having trouble converting an enum to a number. The third result was to an article titled "The White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment: Update on Implementation of Approved Actions". It didn't contain the work 'javascript.' God, Google is starting to really fucking suck! I did solve the issue (a syntax error in my calling code), but my eyes still hurt, and I expect they will for a while!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (but no smile - a huge frown!)

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        Slacker007
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        I could not replicate your situation in OP. All results were relative and accurate. Not signed into Chrome or Google, etc. I did not see any link to the White House in the first 3 pages for results. Interesting.

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        • D David ONeil

          Just did a search for "javascript force to a number", since I was having trouble converting an enum to a number. The third result was to an article titled "The White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment: Update on Implementation of Approved Actions". It didn't contain the work 'javascript.' God, Google is starting to really fucking suck! I did solve the issue (a syntax error in my calling code), but my eyes still hurt, and I expect they will for a while!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (but no smile - a huge frown!)

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          David O'Neil wrote:

          Google is starting to really f***ing suck!

          Look at the bright side, at least they're biased and controlling the info they think you're not allowed to see. :laugh:

          Jeremy Falcon

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          • D David ONeil

            Just did a search for "javascript force to a number", since I was having trouble converting an enum to a number. The third result was to an article titled "The White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment: Update on Implementation of Approved Actions". It didn't contain the work 'javascript.' God, Google is starting to really fucking suck! I did solve the issue (a syntax error in my calling code), but my eyes still hurt, and I expect they will for a while!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (but no smile - a huge frown!)

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            charlieg
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            Agree with you - google's search results have radically changed in the last year (my perception). Far more attitude with little or no information. You might have to go to page 2 or 3 to see actual technical data.

            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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            • D David ONeil

              Yeah, $74 billion in revenue is nothing in the eyes of greed. Must sacrifice the quality we've had till now! X| X| X|

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              Nelek
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              Didn't you know that greed is an exponential relationship to the amount of what you have? Once managers get used to that level of life, they need the next step, and hence the next bonus or record revenue.

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              • D David ONeil

                Just did a search for "javascript force to a number", since I was having trouble converting an enum to a number. The third result was to an article titled "The White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment: Update on Implementation of Approved Actions". It didn't contain the work 'javascript.' God, Google is starting to really fucking suck! I did solve the issue (a syntax error in my calling code), but my eyes still hurt, and I expect they will for a while!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (but no smile - a huge frown!)

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                Dave Kreskowiak
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                Google seems to look at your search history and develops a "primary interest" for future searches. If you spend a lot of searches looking for stuff related to your language of choice, .NET, javascript, and a bunch of other code topics, it should, over time, start preferring those results over others. However, if you start mixing a bunch of other searches into your history, the code results can start to get muddled as Google no longer knows what your primary interest is, or it's moving away from code. I run into that a lot as I do lots of media and political fact checking.

                Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                Dave Kreskowiak

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                • D David ONeil

                  Perhaps you are signed into Google, and it is personalizing your search for you? I almost always do searches from an unsigned in browser. Before about 3 to 6 months ago, Verbatim search was _really_ good. Now it, and all other forms, seem to suck. - edit: tried it in Bing and it was FAR better. I thought I'd never say that!

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                  dandy72
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                  David O'Neil wrote:

                  edit: tried it in Bing and it was FAR better. I thought I'd never say that!

                  Seriously, I've never found Bing to be all that terrible. I'd go as far as saying it's as good as Google's ever been, but at least they haven't yet followed Google's current trend to make everything suck.

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                  • D Dave Kreskowiak

                    Google seems to look at your search history and develops a "primary interest" for future searches. If you spend a lot of searches looking for stuff related to your language of choice, .NET, javascript, and a bunch of other code topics, it should, over time, start preferring those results over others. However, if you start mixing a bunch of other searches into your history, the code results can start to get muddled as Google no longer knows what your primary interest is, or it's moving away from code. I run into that a lot as I do lots of media and political fact checking.

                    Asking questions is a skill CodeProject Forum Guidelines Google: C# How to debug code Seriously, go read these articles.
                    Dave Kreskowiak

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                    dandy72
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                    Just wait until Google's Topics, their proposed replacement for cookies, comes into effect...

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                    • D dandy72

                      Just wait until Google's Topics, their proposed replacement for cookies, comes into effect...

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                      Nelek
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                      That's going to be "fun" for sure... X| X|

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                        That's going to be "fun" for sure... X| X|

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                        dandy72
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                        Given everyone is now trying their best to block third-party cookies these days, obviously Google pretends they're useless and want everyone to use the tracking method they are proposing instead. Which obviously will only exist to benefit them. Give it enough time, then people find reasons to block it too. Then they'll come up with yet another alternative...lather, rinse, repeat.

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                        • D David ONeil

                          Just did a search for "javascript force to a number", since I was having trouble converting an enum to a number. The third result was to an article titled "The White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment: Update on Implementation of Approved Actions". It didn't contain the work 'javascript.' God, Google is starting to really fucking suck! I did solve the issue (a syntax error in my calling code), but my eyes still hurt, and I expect they will for a while!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (but no smile - a huge frown!)

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                          jarvisa
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                          To return results that must include a word or phrase, wrap that word in quotation marks in the search request: "javascript" force to a number

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                          • D dandy72

                            David O'Neil wrote:

                            edit: tried it in Bing and it was FAR better. I thought I'd never say that!

                            Seriously, I've never found Bing to be all that terrible. I'd go as far as saying it's as good as Google's ever been, but at least they haven't yet followed Google's current trend to make everything suck.

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                            I find for most technical/code searches, bing is far superior, often giving me the code snippet from the most relevant stackoverflow post in an easy to copy view. But I am a .net programmer, so most of my searches are C# on Windows based. Plus, they've continued their bribe program and I accumulate points I can eventually trade in for Amazon gift cards. I HAVE turned off the chat functionality, though. It's not as accurate as the standard search.

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                            • D David ONeil

                              Just did a search for "javascript force to a number", since I was having trouble converting an enum to a number. The third result was to an article titled "The White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment: Update on Implementation of Approved Actions". It didn't contain the work 'javascript.' God, Google is starting to really fucking suck! I did solve the issue (a syntax error in my calling code), but my eyes still hurt, and I expect they will for a while!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (but no smile - a huge frown!)

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                              Peter Shaw
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                              Funny enough, this was one of the headlines in the same Code Project Daily News, that I got the link to this Lounge Discussion from!!! [How Google made the world go viral - The Verge](https://www.theverge.com/23846048/google-search-memes-images-pagerank-altavista-seo-keywords)

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                              • D David ONeil

                                Perhaps you are signed into Google, and it is personalizing your search for you? I almost always do searches from an unsigned in browser. Before about 3 to 6 months ago, Verbatim search was _really_ good. Now it, and all other forms, seem to suck. - edit: tried it in Bing and it was FAR better. I thought I'd never say that!

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                                Peter Shaw
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                                I find the opposite. Google is better than Bing, well for some searches anyway. Neither of them are really any good in general anymore these days though, that I do agree.

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                                • D David ONeil

                                  Just did a search for "javascript force to a number", since I was having trouble converting an enum to a number. The third result was to an article titled "The White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment: Update on Implementation of Approved Actions". It didn't contain the work 'javascript.' God, Google is starting to really fucking suck! I did solve the issue (a syntax error in my calling code), but my eyes still hurt, and I expect they will for a while!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (but no smile - a huge frown!)

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                                  Anibal Rindisbacher
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                                  Ask the duck... duckduckgo.com :omg:

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                                    I find for most technical/code searches, bing is far superior, often giving me the code snippet from the most relevant stackoverflow post in an easy to copy view. But I am a .net programmer, so most of my searches are C# on Windows based. Plus, they've continued their bribe program and I accumulate points I can eventually trade in for Amazon gift cards. I HAVE turned off the chat functionality, though. It's not as accurate as the standard search.

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                                    dandy72
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                                    LeahAtWork wrote:

                                    I find for most technical/code searches

                                    True, that's mostly what I search for generally (which is why ads annoy me to no end but that's another story). Yet it used to be that searching for some API documentation yielded better results on Google than on Bing (or MS's own API page). I can't say what it's like these days on Google, it's been so long I've explicitly gone there to search for anything...

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                                    • D David ONeil

                                      Just did a search for "javascript force to a number", since I was having trouble converting an enum to a number. The third result was to an article titled "The White House Task Force on Worker Organizing and Empowerment: Update on Implementation of Approved Actions". It didn't contain the work 'javascript.' God, Google is starting to really fucking suck! I did solve the issue (a syntax error in my calling code), but my eyes still hurt, and I expect they will for a while!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (but no smile - a huge frown!)

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                                      sasadler
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                                      I bailed on google search years ago, it's been Duckduckgo for me ever since (every now an then I'll use dogpile.com).

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                                      • pkfoxP pkfox

                                        Weird I just tried and didn't get that

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                                        DGrothe PhD
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                                        Me not either. But this may differ locally. (Germany) Getting W3Schools, geeksforgeeks and plenty of other dev stuff no army stuff luckily.

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                                          Ask the duck... duckduckgo.com :omg:

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                                          David ONeil
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                                          In my searches I found that Google presented far more relevant results than DuckDuckGo or Bing. Maybe now that has changed.

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