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  • L Lost User

    I do that with code: write a routine (again) that I already wrote previously while "in the zone".

    "Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I

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    I find that as I get older the "zone" becomes ever more fragile. Anything over about three months old (on a good day) and I can't even remember that I wrote it, let alone where it is! Andy

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      When you give up searching and decide to buy another tool to replace the first, after you've used it, you'll find the first one in your shed when you go to put the second one away...

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      Strangely, I have now completed both of the jobs that I wanted to do with the drills but, more than 24 hours later the drills still haven't surfaced. Sod's law is broken, or more likely just lurking. Andy

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      • G Gary R Wheeler

        C:\> dir /s filename.ext

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        But, doesn't work for content. And how would I remember the file name!? Andy

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          About five years ago I bought a set of unusual drills in Lidl. A taper drill, a stepped hole drill, a drill for widening holes, and so on. You know the sought of thing, an "it's bound to be useful sometime" buy. Every now and then I see the box in the shed and think to myself, "One day, I'm going to find that really useful." Finally, yesterday, the day came. I had a job where I wanted to make a conical indentation in a screw head. One of those drills would be perfect but, could I find the box? Of course not. Next week, when I don't need it anymore, it will be lying somewhere in the shed that I have already looked. I realize that this is just another manifestation of Murphy's famous law but, does it happen to you too? Andy

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          Derek Hunter
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          This describes my entire life.

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            About five years ago I bought a set of unusual drills in Lidl. A taper drill, a stepped hole drill, a drill for widening holes, and so on. You know the sought of thing, an "it's bound to be useful sometime" buy. Every now and then I see the box in the shed and think to myself, "One day, I'm going to find that really useful." Finally, yesterday, the day came. I had a job where I wanted to make a conical indentation in a screw head. One of those drills would be perfect but, could I find the box? Of course not. Next week, when I don't need it anymore, it will be lying somewhere in the shed that I have already looked. I realize that this is just another manifestation of Murphy's famous law but, does it happen to you too? Andy

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            Magrat
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            All too often! And in a similar vein, never put that 'important item' somewhere safe so that it doesn't get lost. You'll never see it again!

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              About five years ago I bought a set of unusual drills in Lidl. A taper drill, a stepped hole drill, a drill for widening holes, and so on. You know the sought of thing, an "it's bound to be useful sometime" buy. Every now and then I see the box in the shed and think to myself, "One day, I'm going to find that really useful." Finally, yesterday, the day came. I had a job where I wanted to make a conical indentation in a screw head. One of those drills would be perfect but, could I find the box? Of course not. Next week, when I don't need it anymore, it will be lying somewhere in the shed that I have already looked. I realize that this is just another manifestation of Murphy's famous law but, does it happen to you too? Andy

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              JohaViss61
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              Constantly. Every time I look for my brain, I can't find it. :laugh:

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              • J JohaViss61

                Constantly. Every time I look for my brain, I can't find it. :laugh:

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                You could have all my sympathy - if I could remember where I'd left it! Andy

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                • A AndyChisholm

                  About five years ago I bought a set of unusual drills in Lidl. A taper drill, a stepped hole drill, a drill for widening holes, and so on. You know the sought of thing, an "it's bound to be useful sometime" buy. Every now and then I see the box in the shed and think to myself, "One day, I'm going to find that really useful." Finally, yesterday, the day came. I had a job where I wanted to make a conical indentation in a screw head. One of those drills would be perfect but, could I find the box? Of course not. Next week, when I don't need it anymore, it will be lying somewhere in the shed that I have already looked. I realize that this is just another manifestation of Murphy's famous law but, does it happen to you too? Andy

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                  Cpichols
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                  Yes, but usually this happens when, upon stumbling on the thing at random, I decide that it needs a special place. Yeah. So going back to where I've stumbled upon it many times before is not going to work unless I can cast my mind back to that one time when I thought of a special place for the thing, which I am generally unsuccessful in doing.

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                  • M Mike Hankey

                    That's why I have at least two of everything in my shop!

                    I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.1.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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                    snorkie
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                    Only two, you're awesome. I have way more than 2 of everything!

                    Hogan

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                    • J jmaida

                      Remote controls are famous for vanishing into another dimension only to be reborn after you have replaced them. Just happened last Friday, I swear. Had to replace 2 different remotes, TV and Roku. Old ones haven't been been found so still in another dimension.

                      "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                      Amarnath S
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                      Was thinking of an 'innovative idea'. Now that everything is smart, why don't they introduce a 'Beep Remote' button on the TV set, which when pressed, causes the remote to beep from wherever it is, within a certain radius. Or, is such a thing already present?

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                      • T trønderen

                        Gerry Schmitz wrote:

                        Certainly one must have sections

                        Not by definition. Modern automated libraries tend store everything in complete chaos. When a book is returned, it is put into the first empty folder, in cases with a lot of numbered folders, of the appropriate size. This process includes scanning a bar code of the case, the folder and the book, and this is entered into a search index in the library, before the robot drives the case back to its shelf. Whenever someone later asks for the book, the library catalog provides the bar code for the book. This code is looked up in the search index, and the robot is sent out to retrieve the correct case. At the sorting table, a camera scans the folder bar code tags for the one in the index, and a mechanical arm lifts the book from the folder. The folder is now free for any other returned book, and the index entry for the book being removed is removed from the index. The National Library of Norway maintains a library of about two million volumes this way, mostly older books that are not any longer found in smaller libraries spread across the country. Users can browse the catalogs of this central depot library from any public library, or their own PCs, and order the book to be delivered to their local library. The library has an absolute time limit of 24 hours from the order is entered to the book is on the road, but during working hours the delay is usually no more than a couple hours (waiting for the pickup truck to arrive). Of course the library catalog has sections. They may have an "art" section, listing the book. Another section may be "French books", and the book is listed there as well. And maybe in the "antique books" section as well. That is the great thing about it. I have copied my huge movie / music library to the PC (still fighting with the copy protection on some BD/DVDs, but most I can handle). I all the time have these questions like 'Is this a blues or a rock album? Where shall I put it?' Or, 'How did I classify that Nina Simone song - blues, soul, rock?' The Explorer 'Find file' helps a bit, but my archive is so huge that it is slow. I can only search on directory/file name; other properties are not searchable (MP3 tags are almost non-existent in my archive, and when present, they are often highly debatable.) So I have a database index design ready for implementation, for looking up on music/movies on more or less arbitrary criteria. The directory structure of my music/mov

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                        StatementTerminator
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                        Physical storage and organization are different things. As a former librarian I can tell you that there's a whole field of cataloging devoted to this sort of organization, and it has evolved over centuries. Technology has moved this sort of thing from physical card catalogs to databases and changed how the physical material can be delivered, but the process of organizing the material (cataloging) hasn't really changed much. Books etc. are cataloged into specific subjects in order to make it easy to find all available material on a specific subject, but they are also cross-referenced so that they can be discovered when looking for related subjects. It's similar to a primary-to-foreign-key relationship. But what really matters is the organization of the information, how it is physically stored is just a matter of convenience like you say. So, for example, you can classify an early rock album as rock, but cross-reference that to blues as well. That makes the database design pretty simple, the hard part is coming up with the categories you need and deciding what goes where. There's a lot of grunt work in cataloging.

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                        • A Amarnath S

                          Was thinking of an 'innovative idea'. Now that everything is smart, why don't they introduce a 'Beep Remote' button on the TV set, which when pressed, causes the remote to beep from wherever it is, within a certain radius. Or, is such a thing already present?

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                          That has existed for years. I think actually for decades. It can be used for other things also.

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                            About five years ago I bought a set of unusual drills in Lidl. A taper drill, a stepped hole drill, a drill for widening holes, and so on. You know the sought of thing, an "it's bound to be useful sometime" buy. Every now and then I see the box in the shed and think to myself, "One day, I'm going to find that really useful." Finally, yesterday, the day came. I had a job where I wanted to make a conical indentation in a screw head. One of those drills would be perfect but, could I find the box? Of course not. Next week, when I don't need it anymore, it will be lying somewhere in the shed that I have already looked. I realize that this is just another manifestation of Murphy's famous law but, does it happen to you too? Andy

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                            I pretty much solved that problem years ago. I wrote an inventory program to keep track of almost everything. I have almost 10,000 items cataloged that are stored in about 700 locations. Locations can be rooms, drawers, table tops or boxes to name a few. If something is stored in a box, I also print Location Content Reports that are attached to the box. So, If I want to find my step drill, I simply enter "Step Drill" in the search box and it reports how many items were found. In this case I find 1 item: "Drill Bit, Step, 3 piece set" located in "Tool Box, Top Section, Bottom Drawer", which is located in the "Workshop." The biggest problem is that I don't necessarily catalog everything, so sometimes I have to rummage through boxes of similar items to find what I want. I use Quicken to keep track of all my purchases and itemize each item in Quicken and periodically export the Quicken data and import it into the inventory program noting where the item is going to be stored. Problem solved! More information on this program can be located at: Lucid Inventory System[^]

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                              Strangely, I have now completed both of the jobs that I wanted to do with the drills but, more than 24 hours later the drills still haven't surfaced. Sod's law is broken, or more likely just lurking. Andy

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                              StarNamer work
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                              That's because you expected them to turn up after you'd finished, so by Sod's law,... :)

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                                About five years ago I bought a set of unusual drills in Lidl. A taper drill, a stepped hole drill, a drill for widening holes, and so on. You know the sought of thing, an "it's bound to be useful sometime" buy. Every now and then I see the box in the shed and think to myself, "One day, I'm going to find that really useful." Finally, yesterday, the day came. I had a job where I wanted to make a conical indentation in a screw head. One of those drills would be perfect but, could I find the box? Of course not. Next week, when I don't need it anymore, it will be lying somewhere in the shed that I have already looked. I realize that this is just another manifestation of Murphy's famous law but, does it happen to you too? Andy

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                                MikeD 2
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                                The other similar problem is to not need something for so long that you forget you have it and buy one to do a job Really annoying to find that I now have two when I go to put the new one away

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                                  About five years ago I bought a set of unusual drills in Lidl. A taper drill, a stepped hole drill, a drill for widening holes, and so on. You know the sought of thing, an "it's bound to be useful sometime" buy. Every now and then I see the box in the shed and think to myself, "One day, I'm going to find that really useful." Finally, yesterday, the day came. I had a job where I wanted to make a conical indentation in a screw head. One of those drills would be perfect but, could I find the box? Of course not. Next week, when I don't need it anymore, it will be lying somewhere in the shed that I have already looked. I realize that this is just another manifestation of Murphy's famous law but, does it happen to you too? Andy

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                                  MikeCO10
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                                  Sure, but it usually goes like this: Spend 15 minutes searching for it. If it's not expensive, spend another 45 minutes when I head to Lowe's or HD and buy another one, along with something else that catches my eye. Head home, get the project done. Next week, I move something and wow, there's the original one. The good thing is that with two of them, the next time I have an increased chance of finding one of them, well, sometimes :laugh:

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                                    At least you can use FileLocator or similar to find it. It's more complicated in the shed! Andy

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                                    I looked at this problem when I wrote SnipAssist (PineTreeJoe.com). The problem with most code reuse is having it but not finding it. To solve this problem, I used three parts for a snippet. An administrative part, a description and the actual text to reuse. All three parts can be searched together or separately. The search returns a list of snippets. As libraries get larger, the descriptive part gets more important.

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      There is even a T-shirt about it: https://ceeshop.com.au/products/cee23-premium-t-shirt-socket-grew-legs[^]

                                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                      DGrothe PhD
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                                      Well what is there that's not a T-shirt for?

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                                        About five years ago I bought a set of unusual drills in Lidl. A taper drill, a stepped hole drill, a drill for widening holes, and so on. You know the sought of thing, an "it's bound to be useful sometime" buy. Every now and then I see the box in the shed and think to myself, "One day, I'm going to find that really useful." Finally, yesterday, the day came. I had a job where I wanted to make a conical indentation in a screw head. One of those drills would be perfect but, could I find the box? Of course not. Next week, when I don't need it anymore, it will be lying somewhere in the shed that I have already looked. I realize that this is just another manifestation of Murphy's famous law but, does it happen to you too? Andy

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                                        DGrothe PhD
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                                        Currently I am searching for a magnifying glass my grandpa once had and that must be somewhere, but, ehm, in which of the 20-200 boxes is it... Hard to tell...

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                                          About five years ago I bought a set of unusual drills in Lidl. A taper drill, a stepped hole drill, a drill for widening holes, and so on. You know the sought of thing, an "it's bound to be useful sometime" buy. Every now and then I see the box in the shed and think to myself, "One day, I'm going to find that really useful." Finally, yesterday, the day came. I had a job where I wanted to make a conical indentation in a screw head. One of those drills would be perfect but, could I find the box? Of course not. Next week, when I don't need it anymore, it will be lying somewhere in the shed that I have already looked. I realize that this is just another manifestation of Murphy's famous law but, does it happen to you too? Andy

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                                          CARNESECCHILuc
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                                          Hey, look on Blueberry Hill, you'll find your drill ! (From the Far Side Cartoon) Luc

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