Social thing... Do you have similar shit discussions in your country?
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The city of Zurich wants to help parents with questions about raising children: The city's mothers and fathers advice service sends out a newsletter every two months with tips for parents of children up to the age of five. The latest edition is also dedicated to “gender-sensitive education”. And that doesn't go down well with everyone. As a newpaper (“NZZ”) reports, parents are advised, among other things, to avoid using the terms mother and father when talking about other families. There are neutral terms as alternatives. Instead of “Rachel’s mom,” it could be “Rachel’s parent” or “Rachel’s caregiver.” Children are also more neutral than boys or girls. I'm ashamed for my country, Switzerland :(( [Edit] A minority seems to be demanding something here. But I'm pretty sure it's not this minority of people who are uncertain about their gender who are demanding this. It's more the class of politicians who are 'so compatible' with everything and want to appear in the spotlight.
This topic has had such a MAJOR response, I am pretty sure someone else has replied in the way I am about to. Here's my 2cents anyway. 1) People can't help how they are made. They should be treated with dignity and respect. However, they should not push the way they are made on anyone else. 2) There is a big stink here about Trans-gender male athletes participating in women's sports where, due to their genetic makeup as male, they have a decided edge. 3) Most of this is due to the liberal media pushing the concepts mentioned in the original post. 4) I am neither conservative nor liberal. I believe people should only be treated/judged based on what they do, not anything else. 5) Political correctness is a crock. 6) This is absolutely, definitely NOT the world I grew up in. :sigh:
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Nelek wrote:
3 genders
It is strange for me. We studies that the gender is an behavioural attribute. Sex is anatomical attribute. So, I would imagine sex would be male, female and anything else that biology approves. Gender could be masculine or feminine. So to me there could be a masculine female or feminine female. And sure give labels to these but they cannot be gender or sex. Orientation is again completely different thing in my little mind. I have no idea if this is acceptable or scientifically correct in today's world.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
dan!sh wrote:
gender is an behavioural attribute. Sex is anatomical attribute
Gender is anatomical, genetic, based on genes -- though it's more complex than that, it's not simply the X and Y chromosomes. Sex is an act, a process for reproduction, which in humans requires an XX person and an XY person. Sexuality (and Orientation) is behavior and attitudes (even in the absence of action).
dan!sh wrote:
masculine or feminine
Are merely social norms and are flexible through time and space depending on the society. For the most part they are bullcrap and should be ignored, they're just another way the man tries to keep us down.
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Same here in the UK. A recent communicatiom suggested the term "vagina" be replaced by "bonus hole". I despair of the idiots in charge.
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
A recent communicatiom suggested the term "vagina" be replaced by "bonus hole
No it didn't. That was just what some media claimed it said. The original source was stating that some people were using that term. It was not claiming it should be used instead. Similar to what the urban dictionary might do in providing a definition.
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This topic has had such a MAJOR response, I am pretty sure someone else has replied in the way I am about to. Here's my 2cents anyway. 1) People can't help how they are made. They should be treated with dignity and respect. However, they should not push the way they are made on anyone else. 2) There is a big stink here about Trans-gender male athletes participating in women's sports where, due to their genetic makeup as male, they have a decided edge. 3) Most of this is due to the liberal media pushing the concepts mentioned in the original post. 4) I am neither conservative nor liberal. I believe people should only be treated/judged based on what they do, not anything else. 5) Political correctness is a crock. 6) This is absolutely, definitely NOT the world I grew up in. :sigh:
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
A recent communicatiom suggested the term "vagina" be replaced by "bonus hole
No it didn't. That was just what some media claimed it said. The original source was stating that some people were using that term. It was not claiming it should be used instead. Similar to what the urban dictionary might do in providing a definition.
Vagina rebranded as ‘bonus hole’ by cervical cancer charity[^]
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A charity which advises medics to refer to a vagina as a “bonus hole” to avoid upsetting transgender men has been accused of dehumanising women. Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust offers a guide on its website detailing the appropriate language healthcare professionals should use when dealing with trans men. “Bonus hole” and “front hole” are deemed acceptable alternatives to vagina, a word which could “cause someone to feel hurt or distressed”, it states. The advice features on a section of Jo’s website under the header “Language to use when supporting trans men and/or non-binary people”. The glossary was created in partnership with the LGBT Foundation.
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The city of Zurich wants to help parents with questions about raising children: The city's mothers and fathers advice service sends out a newsletter every two months with tips for parents of children up to the age of five. The latest edition is also dedicated to “gender-sensitive education”. And that doesn't go down well with everyone. As a newpaper (“NZZ”) reports, parents are advised, among other things, to avoid using the terms mother and father when talking about other families. There are neutral terms as alternatives. Instead of “Rachel’s mom,” it could be “Rachel’s parent” or “Rachel’s caregiver.” Children are also more neutral than boys or girls. I'm ashamed for my country, Switzerland :(( [Edit] A minority seems to be demanding something here. But I'm pretty sure it's not this minority of people who are uncertain about their gender who are demanding this. It's more the class of politicians who are 'so compatible' with everything and want to appear in the spotlight.
It's everywhere and it's just as ridiculous. People with no life and nothing better to do creating problems where non exist. So just goes to show how many people are brainwashed by TV.
Jeremy Falcon
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Nelek wrote:
3 genders
It is strange for me. We studies that the gender is an behavioural attribute. Sex is anatomical attribute. So, I would imagine sex would be male, female and anything else that biology approves. Gender could be masculine or feminine. So to me there could be a masculine female or feminine female. And sure give labels to these but they cannot be gender or sex. Orientation is again completely different thing in my little mind. I have no idea if this is acceptable or scientifically correct in today's world.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[^]
dan!sh wrote:
Gender could be masculine or feminine.
That's what it means now, because someone wanted to change it. And the two concepts are still extremely conflated because it's the _sexes_ that act differently while also partaking in their _gender_ - that the sex does in fact have a large influence over (generally speaking). There have always been masculine chicks and feminine dudes. But, now they want to pretend they are the opposite "gender" as expressed by the opposite sex roles society traditionally embraced. This is called putting the cart before the horse, to honestly pretend that just because you cried while watching Titanic you're now actually the same as a real woman - since the two concepts are clearly conflated on both sides. No, you're just a feminine dude despite your new labels. Doesn't mean you get to pee in the women's bathroom. What makes it worse is they're trying to legally force this pronoun stuff on others.
Jeremy Falcon
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Vagina rebranded as ‘bonus hole’ by cervical cancer charity[^]
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A charity which advises medics to refer to a vagina as a “bonus hole” to avoid upsetting transgender men has been accused of dehumanising women. Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust offers a guide on its website detailing the appropriate language healthcare professionals should use when dealing with trans men. “Bonus hole” and “front hole” are deemed acceptable alternatives to vagina, a word which could “cause someone to feel hurt or distressed”, it states. The advice features on a section of Jo’s website under the header “Language to use when supporting trans men and/or non-binary people”. The glossary was created in partnership with the LGBT Foundation.
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Slow Eddie wrote:
definitely NOT the world I grew up in
I am guess then you didn't grow up in the following world? 1969 Stonewall Riots - Origins, Timeline & Leaders[^]
The world I grew up in was New Orleans, not New York. Not the same by any measure. We were taught tolerance, and respect. I deplored the racial intolerance as well and my family and friends did too. I grew up playing with black kids in my neighborhood and no one there thought anything about it. By the time I was in high school, Gays and Bi-sexual induvial were accepted here as well.
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You are claiming that the 'Telegraph' is not in fact a media source but rather is the original source?
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The world I grew up in was New Orleans, not New York. Not the same by any measure. We were taught tolerance, and respect. I deplored the racial intolerance as well and my family and friends did too. I grew up playing with black kids in my neighborhood and no one there thought anything about it. By the time I was in high school, Gays and Bi-sexual induvial were accepted here as well.
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Then repeating what I said... "That would of course be one of those media outlets claiming that." Especially with the Telegraph no one should read anything there without skepticism or even outright disbelief.