How often do you change Web Browsers?
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
I use Edge and Firefox; often at the same time. At times, FF will render a site better than Edge. FF's "programmer mode" is "cleaner", IMO. I think Google's "Chrome" is "malware", and I removed it. FF also runs better on my (gen 1) Surface GO, on which Edge doesn't seem to scale without "mucking about". FF also has extensions one might find useful and that Edge doesn't support.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
I use Chrome for most normal stuff like CodeProject, Firefox for a most of the work related stuff, Safari because for a specific work activity it is the only browser that works. You have to be on VPN A to access one system, in that system we have links to another application that is what we offer to customers. To access this application you cannot be on VPN A. Used to be you could turn off the VPN and then click the link to the application. That no longer works so you have to be on the page with the link, switch to VPN B then click the link to the application. And NO MATTER which VPN you are currently on, you are NOT on the VPN you need to be to get the current task done.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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I change browsers like I change underwear... which is never.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon said:
never
That’s what I expected from 99% of respondents. I used Chrome from 2010 - 2014 (was on Android phone then too) and then I decided to split up all my apps and I switched from Chrome to FireFox but invariably FireFox has had issues that are pretty critical and cause me to switch to other browsers (usually Brave). I have used Opera and I also use Safari on iPhone, of course. I’m writing this up from my iPad Pro running FireFox.
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I use Edge and Firefox; often at the same time. At times, FF will render a site better than Edge. FF's "programmer mode" is "cleaner", IMO. I think Google's "Chrome" is "malware", and I removed it. FF also runs better on my (gen 1) Surface GO, on which Edge doesn't seem to scale without "mucking about". FF also has extensions one might find useful and that Edge doesn't support.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
I switched from Chrome a long while ago myself. Of course, now all these other browsers (Edge, Brave) use Chrome engine anyways. That’s why I like FireFox - plus FF’s dev tools are very good now. Back when I was using Chrome it really had the best Dev tools. Edge probably has good ones too, but I really didn’t like IE so I stay away from Edge as much as possible. I’ve also used Opera, but had some issues in the past. I wonder if Opera is better now. Might try it again soon. Not sure if it used Chrome engine like everything else??
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dandy72 wrote:
Google isn't any less annoying.
I use Chrome, but this is 100% accurate. They're both annoying.
Jeremy Falcon
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I use Chrome for most normal stuff like CodeProject, Firefox for a most of the work related stuff, Safari because for a specific work activity it is the only browser that works. You have to be on VPN A to access one system, in that system we have links to another application that is what we offer to customers. To access this application you cannot be on VPN A. Used to be you could turn off the VPN and then click the link to the application. That no longer works so you have to be on the page with the link, switch to VPN B then click the link to the application. And NO MATTER which VPN you are currently on, you are NOT on the VPN you need to be to get the current task done.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
Wow, that sounds like a complicated set of hoops to jump through. Keeps you slim and trim though. :laugh: I originally used Chrome because it had such great dev tools. then FireFox came to parity on dev tools and I switched over so my data wouldn’t be owned by one huge corp entity. :rolleyes: I was on Android at the time. I also switched to exclusively using DuckDuckGo search in all my browsers. Glad it’s still a choice.
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I change browsers like I change underwear... which is never.
Jeremy Falcon
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I used FF for years but started having problems. So I switched to Chrome and it does the job, but there are some things about FF that I miss.
I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate
Mike Hankey wrote:
but there are some things about FF that I miss.
like...?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I switched from Chrome a long while ago myself. Of course, now all these other browsers (Edge, Brave) use Chrome engine anyways. That’s why I like FireFox - plus FF’s dev tools are very good now. Back when I was using Chrome it really had the best Dev tools. Edge probably has good ones too, but I really didn’t like IE so I stay away from Edge as much as possible. I’ve also used Opera, but had some issues in the past. I wonder if Opera is better now. Might try it again soon. Not sure if it used Chrome engine like everything else??
raddevus wrote:
Edge probably has good ones too, but I really didn’t like IE so I stay away from Edge as much as possible.
Have you given it a fair chance? I wouldn't be so dismissive of Edge because of IE's history. They bear little in common. The way I see it, it's "like Chrome, but without having an additional company look at my data" - because MS already has it anyway.
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I change browsers like I change underwear... which is never.
Jeremy Falcon
In the wise words of the late lamented Saint Jimmy of Buffett: "Now I'm gettin' old, I don't wear underwear."
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raddevus wrote:
Edge probably has good ones too, but I really didn’t like IE so I stay away from Edge as much as possible.
Have you given it a fair chance? I wouldn't be so dismissive of Edge because of IE's history. They bear little in common. The way I see it, it's "like Chrome, but without having an additional company look at my data" - because MS already has it anyway.
dandy72:
The way I see it, it's "like Chrome, but without having an additional company look at my data" - because MS already has it anyway
:laugh: I totally get that!! <Haughty Tone> However, I’m on Linux so they don’t got my data. That’s A BoldFace Lie I have 3 copies of registered Win10 (one running on laptop, one running on VM (from Linux desktop)) so they got all my data already. I have not given Edge a fair look, so I need to do that. However, I do hate the advertisements / news that appears in the blank tab area. I’ve tried to get rid of it but can only seem to minimize it. Yes, I could minimize it and ignore it but then I have to actively depend upon self control not to click the clickbait. :laugh:
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
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dandy72:
The way I see it, it's "like Chrome, but without having an additional company look at my data" - because MS already has it anyway
:laugh: I totally get that!! <Haughty Tone> However, I’m on Linux so they don’t got my data. That’s A BoldFace Lie I have 3 copies of registered Win10 (one running on laptop, one running on VM (from Linux desktop)) so they got all my data already. I have not given Edge a fair look, so I need to do that. However, I do hate the advertisements / news that appears in the blank tab area. I’ve tried to get rid of it but can only seem to minimize it. Yes, I could minimize it and ignore it but then I have to actively depend upon self control not to click the clickbait. :laugh:
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
I use SeaMonkey for all websites that permit and chrome for all others. I don't change much. At my crotchety age I hate change. This was typed on windows 7.
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
Firefox 95% of time. Sometimes a site doesn't show up properly and I have to switch to Chrome. And occasionally MS pops pages in Edge.
Mircea
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Mike Hankey wrote:
but there are some things about FF that I miss.
like...?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Being able to drag the current window to the shortcut bar, with Chrome you have to bookmark the tab.
I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate
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It can all be minimized rather drastically...at least to the point where it no longer annoys me. I get what you mean by Linux. I wish I could use it as my "real" OS on more of my everyday machines...
dandy72:
Linux. I wish I could use it as my "real" OS on more of my everyday machines...
I’ve been using Windows since Win3.0 and I always loved Windows. However, as a person who thinks like a hobbyist I started to see what Linux was doing and especially how light and fast the OS tries to keep things. Then I had an issue with some h/w in 2018 where Win10 crashed immediately. At first I thought it was the OS bec I was annoyed and installed Ubuntu and it would only crash 1 time a week — yes, it was odd. I finally determined it was a h/w thing but by that time I had made the switch to Linux. I still remote to Win10 OS for work…but here’s the thing, the RDP software (Remmina) works way better than Microsoft’s RDP. You can have multiple connections to multiple remote desktops and they are all in one tabbed window. Why doe MS have such a bad sitch with tabs? Always later the game. Also, in MS RDP you have to be fullscreen to send special keys (think alt-tab) but you can send special keys to remote from Remmina any time you are over the remote window. Also, Remmina allows me to store my password so all I do to connect to remote is double-click the link in Remmina. On MS I have to provide password & credentials every time. Ugh. Anyways, there are only two things I can’t run in Linux that I actually use: 1. Microchip studio (embedded s/w dev based on Visual Studio) 2. Steam games (which I’ve already bought under windows os) but, I don’t do either of them on the regular. I connect to VM Win10 to do things “locally” and Remmina for work stuff. I’m kind of amazed because “THE YEAR of the LINUX DESKTOP IS HERE!!!!” YES, I’M YELLING!!! :laugh:
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I use SeaMonkey for all websites that permit and chrome for all others. I don't change much. At my crotchety age I hate change. This was typed on windows 7.
Ron Anders said:
This was typed on windows 7.
That made me spray milk out my nose!! And, I’m not even drinking milk. :laugh: And, I’m laughing with you, not at you. For realz. Windows 7 was fantastic. I get it about not wanting to change. Also SeaMonkey is a form of FireFox, right? I notice you said for things that it works on. I have discovered quite a few sites that FireFox won’t “just work on” too
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Firefox 95% of time. Sometimes a site doesn't show up properly and I have to switch to Chrome. And occasionally MS pops pages in Edge.
Mircea
Mircea Neacsu wrote:
Sometimes a site doesn't show up properly and I have to switch to Chrome.
This is very interesting to me, because I used FF for so long and I too stumbled upon sites that did not work with it at times. Here’s the oddest one ever. I signed into my healthcare site (UHC) and it would give me the error: “You do not have a userid on this system, please create a user id.” That is a terrible error. My user id was fine but for some reason FF gave that error. I would sign in fine on Chrome. Very odd.
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
Edge for everything - developing, browsing, streaming. Chrome is too intrusive for my taste.
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