How often do you change Web Browsers?
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I change browsers like I change underwear... which is never.
Jeremy Falcon
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I used FF for years but started having problems. So I switched to Chrome and it does the job, but there are some things about FF that I miss.
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Mike Hankey wrote:
but there are some things about FF that I miss.
like...?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I switched from Chrome a long while ago myself. Of course, now all these other browsers (Edge, Brave) use Chrome engine anyways. That’s why I like FireFox - plus FF’s dev tools are very good now. Back when I was using Chrome it really had the best Dev tools. Edge probably has good ones too, but I really didn’t like IE so I stay away from Edge as much as possible. I’ve also used Opera, but had some issues in the past. I wonder if Opera is better now. Might try it again soon. Not sure if it used Chrome engine like everything else??
raddevus wrote:
Edge probably has good ones too, but I really didn’t like IE so I stay away from Edge as much as possible.
Have you given it a fair chance? I wouldn't be so dismissive of Edge because of IE's history. They bear little in common. The way I see it, it's "like Chrome, but without having an additional company look at my data" - because MS already has it anyway.
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I change browsers like I change underwear... which is never.
Jeremy Falcon
In the wise words of the late lamented Saint Jimmy of Buffett: "Now I'm gettin' old, I don't wear underwear."
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raddevus wrote:
Edge probably has good ones too, but I really didn’t like IE so I stay away from Edge as much as possible.
Have you given it a fair chance? I wouldn't be so dismissive of Edge because of IE's history. They bear little in common. The way I see it, it's "like Chrome, but without having an additional company look at my data" - because MS already has it anyway.
dandy72:
The way I see it, it's "like Chrome, but without having an additional company look at my data" - because MS already has it anyway
:laugh: I totally get that!! <Haughty Tone> However, I’m on Linux so they don’t got my data. That’s A BoldFace Lie I have 3 copies of registered Win10 (one running on laptop, one running on VM (from Linux desktop)) so they got all my data already. I have not given Edge a fair look, so I need to do that. However, I do hate the advertisements / news that appears in the blank tab area. I’ve tried to get rid of it but can only seem to minimize it. Yes, I could minimize it and ignore it but then I have to actively depend upon self control not to click the clickbait. :laugh:
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
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dandy72:
The way I see it, it's "like Chrome, but without having an additional company look at my data" - because MS already has it anyway
:laugh: I totally get that!! <Haughty Tone> However, I’m on Linux so they don’t got my data. That’s A BoldFace Lie I have 3 copies of registered Win10 (one running on laptop, one running on VM (from Linux desktop)) so they got all my data already. I have not given Edge a fair look, so I need to do that. However, I do hate the advertisements / news that appears in the blank tab area. I’ve tried to get rid of it but can only seem to minimize it. Yes, I could minimize it and ignore it but then I have to actively depend upon self control not to click the clickbait. :laugh:
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
I use SeaMonkey for all websites that permit and chrome for all others. I don't change much. At my crotchety age I hate change. This was typed on windows 7.
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
Firefox 95% of time. Sometimes a site doesn't show up properly and I have to switch to Chrome. And occasionally MS pops pages in Edge.
Mircea
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Mike Hankey wrote:
but there are some things about FF that I miss.
like...?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Being able to drag the current window to the shortcut bar, with Chrome you have to bookmark the tab.
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It can all be minimized rather drastically...at least to the point where it no longer annoys me. I get what you mean by Linux. I wish I could use it as my "real" OS on more of my everyday machines...
dandy72:
Linux. I wish I could use it as my "real" OS on more of my everyday machines...
I’ve been using Windows since Win3.0 and I always loved Windows. However, as a person who thinks like a hobbyist I started to see what Linux was doing and especially how light and fast the OS tries to keep things. Then I had an issue with some h/w in 2018 where Win10 crashed immediately. At first I thought it was the OS bec I was annoyed and installed Ubuntu and it would only crash 1 time a week — yes, it was odd. I finally determined it was a h/w thing but by that time I had made the switch to Linux. I still remote to Win10 OS for work…but here’s the thing, the RDP software (Remmina) works way better than Microsoft’s RDP. You can have multiple connections to multiple remote desktops and they are all in one tabbed window. Why doe MS have such a bad sitch with tabs? Always later the game. Also, in MS RDP you have to be fullscreen to send special keys (think alt-tab) but you can send special keys to remote from Remmina any time you are over the remote window. Also, Remmina allows me to store my password so all I do to connect to remote is double-click the link in Remmina. On MS I have to provide password & credentials every time. Ugh. Anyways, there are only two things I can’t run in Linux that I actually use: 1. Microchip studio (embedded s/w dev based on Visual Studio) 2. Steam games (which I’ve already bought under windows os) but, I don’t do either of them on the regular. I connect to VM Win10 to do things “locally” and Remmina for work stuff. I’m kind of amazed because “THE YEAR of the LINUX DESKTOP IS HERE!!!!” YES, I’M YELLING!!! :laugh:
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I use SeaMonkey for all websites that permit and chrome for all others. I don't change much. At my crotchety age I hate change. This was typed on windows 7.
Ron Anders said:
This was typed on windows 7.
That made me spray milk out my nose!! And, I’m not even drinking milk. :laugh: And, I’m laughing with you, not at you. For realz. Windows 7 was fantastic. I get it about not wanting to change. Also SeaMonkey is a form of FireFox, right? I notice you said for things that it works on. I have discovered quite a few sites that FireFox won’t “just work on” too
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Firefox 95% of time. Sometimes a site doesn't show up properly and I have to switch to Chrome. And occasionally MS pops pages in Edge.
Mircea
Mircea Neacsu wrote:
Sometimes a site doesn't show up properly and I have to switch to Chrome.
This is very interesting to me, because I used FF for so long and I too stumbled upon sites that did not work with it at times. Here’s the oddest one ever. I signed into my healthcare site (UHC) and it would give me the error: “You do not have a userid on this system, please create a user id.” That is a terrible error. My user id was fine but for some reason FF gave that error. I would sign in fine on Chrome. Very odd.
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
Edge for everything - developing, browsing, streaming. Chrome is too intrusive for my taste.
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Jeremy Falcon said:
never
That’s what I expected from 99% of respondents. I used Chrome from 2010 - 2014 (was on Android phone then too) and then I decided to split up all my apps and I switched from Chrome to FireFox but invariably FireFox has had issues that are pretty critical and cause me to switch to other browsers (usually Brave). I have used Opera and I also use Safari on iPhone, of course. I’m writing this up from my iPad Pro running FireFox.
raddevus wrote:
That’s what I expected from 99% of respondents.
Yeah, it's the age old... using a browser for work vs tinkering. For me, I do web dev, so my focus is more on building apps than browser searching. As such, it usually takes a lot to get me to switch and even if I did (and they're using the same engine, etc.) I'll still need to make sure a web app looks good in all popular browsers. So, no getting away from it.
raddevus wrote:
I’m writing this up from my iPad Pro running FireFox.
Noice. I do like how FF's dev tools deal with CSS grid.
Jeremy Falcon
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In the wise words of the late lamented Saint Jimmy of Buffett: "Now I'm gettin' old, I don't wear underwear."
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Mircea Neacsu wrote:
Sometimes a site doesn't show up properly and I have to switch to Chrome.
This is very interesting to me, because I used FF for so long and I too stumbled upon sites that did not work with it at times. Here’s the oddest one ever. I signed into my healthcare site (UHC) and it would give me the error: “You do not have a userid on this system, please create a user id.” That is a terrible error. My user id was fine but for some reason FF gave that error. I would sign in fine on Chrome. Very odd.
I had one site simply telling me that my (FF) browser is not supported :omg: Seems to happen more often on big, government sites. Probably people there are too busy to test on other browsers. You know how busy these public employees are :D Anyway it's not often enough to make me change browsers.
Mircea
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
On my work laptop used to exclusively use Brave until they locked it. Switched to the chromium edge, until they forced it to require me to login with my work account. Now using Chrome. On my PC it has been Brave for a few years now. For some reason I dislike the feel fire-fox gives me.
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I never got around to installing Lynx on any of my OpenVMS systems. I was referring to the browser which dare not speak its name.
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I have attempted to use FireFox exclusively for years now. It's a non-Chrome engine. It has a feature which allows you to watch videos while you do other things -- quite convenient. Anyway, recently FireFox has locked up my Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS desktop completely -- did it three different times. I moved back to Brave (which is seen by the world as Chrome). Do you switch browsers? Which browsers do you use?
I use Chrome but because some of my professional work is on web front-ends I sometimes need to check other browsers and I will use Firefox and Edge for a quick check. Also occasionally the Chrome cache stubbornly refuses to clear for a site so I will use Firefox to get a fresh version of the site.
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