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    Choroid
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    The fact that this is still being used today is amazing. I grew up close to Cleveland, Ohio and living in various other states like Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon and now Arizona machines of this size we seldom seen not that I was looking for them. Please enjoy the story. Comment about BIG industry near you curious what is in other parts of the world. The Air Force's 50,000 Ton Press - PlaneHistoria[^]

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      The fact that this is still being used today is amazing. I grew up close to Cleveland, Ohio and living in various other states like Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon and now Arizona machines of this size we seldom seen not that I was looking for them. Please enjoy the story. Comment about BIG industry near you curious what is in other parts of the world. The Air Force's 50,000 Ton Press - PlaneHistoria[^]

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      I'm not reading it. The GDPR banner for that site is one of those "you have to disable each vender individually - here is a huge list, have fun." ones and life is too short to spend 10 minutes clicking on "No, I don't want you get my info to do with as you will" checkboxes.

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        I'm not reading it. The GDPR banner for that site is one of those "you have to disable each vender individually - here is a huge list, have fun." ones and life is too short to spend 10 minutes clicking on "No, I don't want you get my info to do with as you will" checkboxes.

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        I am not sure I understand the link did not try to steal any information when I used it I will try to delete the post.

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          I am not sure I understand the link did not try to steal any information when I used it I will try to delete the post.

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          Good luck with deleting ... On that note, after getting the message "Anonymous posting is not allowed" I'm thinking that I was not who I was when I signed in to comment on this ... news ;)

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            The fact that this is still being used today is amazing. I grew up close to Cleveland, Ohio and living in various other states like Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon and now Arizona machines of this size we seldom seen not that I was looking for them. Please enjoy the story. Comment about BIG industry near you curious what is in other parts of the world. The Air Force's 50,000 Ton Press - PlaneHistoria[^]

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            This reminds of story that I still find fascinating. Back when I was in college and studying Strengths of Materials one day the professor took us down the basement lab. The school had been hired as an expert witness in a court case. What happened was a grain elevator had been built and it collapsed resulting several deaths and the design company was sued. They contended that the design was sound and the construction was faulty. The school was given the job of constructing a section of the elevator wall according to specification and verify its capacity. As I recall, the specification called for two quarter-inch beads of glue and a nail every six inches on every board which were 2x4s with their wide side laid horizontally. They built about a 10x10 foot (I think it was) section of the wall and put it in the school's press to test it. This press was not nearly has massive as the USAF's in that article but it was pretty hefty. After testing, they found the specifications for the wall to be more than adequate. The wall was supported in the test by an I-beam whose members were one-inch thick steel and what happened was the I-beam began to deflect before the wall did so that verified that the wall was as stout as intended. The court found that the design was sound and the builders skimped by using one bead of glue and half the number of nails so the construction company was at fault.

            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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              I am not sure I understand the link did not try to steal any information when I used it I will try to delete the post.

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              Meanwhile you can't delete the post (because replied from members), but you can edit it and remove the link ;) On the other hand, I see no problem with that link...

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                The fact that this is still being used today is amazing. I grew up close to Cleveland, Ohio and living in various other states like Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon and now Arizona machines of this size we seldom seen not that I was looking for them. Please enjoy the story. Comment about BIG industry near you curious what is in other parts of the world. The Air Force's 50,000 Ton Press - PlaneHistoria[^]

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                Damn that's a huge press. I'm im-pressed! :)

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                  This reminds of story that I still find fascinating. Back when I was in college and studying Strengths of Materials one day the professor took us down the basement lab. The school had been hired as an expert witness in a court case. What happened was a grain elevator had been built and it collapsed resulting several deaths and the design company was sued. They contended that the design was sound and the construction was faulty. The school was given the job of constructing a section of the elevator wall according to specification and verify its capacity. As I recall, the specification called for two quarter-inch beads of glue and a nail every six inches on every board which were 2x4s with their wide side laid horizontally. They built about a 10x10 foot (I think it was) section of the wall and put it in the school's press to test it. This press was not nearly has massive as the USAF's in that article but it was pretty hefty. After testing, they found the specifications for the wall to be more than adequate. The wall was supported in the test by an I-beam whose members were one-inch thick steel and what happened was the I-beam began to deflect before the wall did so that verified that the wall was as stout as intended. The court found that the design was sound and the builders skimped by using one bead of glue and half the number of nails so the construction company was at fault.

                  "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                  Years ago I worked for a company that among other thing made paper milk cartons. We would take all scrap to a press that would press the paper into a bundle so it could be recycled. The lip of the press was at floor level and the moving part of the press came down into the floor. We had a guy working there that was a real moron, and one day me and another guy were taking some cardboard to the press and when we started the machine we heard a groan from the pit and here's this guy down there. He had fallen in!

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                    This reminds of story that I still find fascinating. Back when I was in college and studying Strengths of Materials one day the professor took us down the basement lab. The school had been hired as an expert witness in a court case. What happened was a grain elevator had been built and it collapsed resulting several deaths and the design company was sued. They contended that the design was sound and the construction was faulty. The school was given the job of constructing a section of the elevator wall according to specification and verify its capacity. As I recall, the specification called for two quarter-inch beads of glue and a nail every six inches on every board which were 2x4s with their wide side laid horizontally. They built about a 10x10 foot (I think it was) section of the wall and put it in the school's press to test it. This press was not nearly has massive as the USAF's in that article but it was pretty hefty. After testing, they found the specifications for the wall to be more than adequate. The wall was supported in the test by an I-beam whose members were one-inch thick steel and what happened was the I-beam began to deflect before the wall did so that verified that the wall was as stout as intended. The court found that the design was sound and the builders skimped by using one bead of glue and half the number of nails so the construction company was at fault.

                    "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                    Rick York wrote:

                    skimped

                    In the drayage business (rigging) that is what is refered to as "greasing the skids". When I worked as a summer gandy (assistant) to big-boy haulers (drivers with licenses) consigned to removing Bullard Machine Presses from a big-name corporation assembly factory I was told this story about how that term came into being. To make a big story smaller then, short of cutting a big hole in the roof and using a big crane to pull the press out and swing it over onto a flatbed, the riggers sent a gandy down to the drug store to buy a case of Irish Spring and bring it back to the job site. Putting the rest of the gandies to work then, each with a bar of soap under a foot, the floor of the factory was smudged up with a quarter inch of bar soap. When a path of proper length was achieved, through the factory, between the other presses/big machines, the moved press was jockyed onto the slick layer and pushed all the way out of the factory. Then lifted onto the flatbed. Fun facts! ooo ... watch your head ...

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                      I am not sure I understand the link did not try to steal any information when I used it I will try to delete the post.

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                      It's not the link trying to steal info, it's the GDPR management screen that insists you untick everyone you don't want them to sell your info to - if you just pressed "accept" to get rid of it once it will sell it to every on on a long list because you have said they can. They have to show the GDPR dialog, but they don't have to have just an "accept" and a "reject" button. That annoys me because they deliberately make it hard to prevent them doing it. So I just walk away and don't go back.

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                        The fact that this is still being used today is amazing. I grew up close to Cleveland, Ohio and living in various other states like Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon and now Arizona machines of this size we seldom seen not that I was looking for them. Please enjoy the story. Comment about BIG industry near you curious what is in other parts of the world. The Air Force's 50,000 Ton Press - PlaneHistoria[^]

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                        > its safe to say the Fifty’s service has been a crushing success. UGH! You should've warned us about that.

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                          I am not sure I understand the link did not try to steal any information when I used it I will try to delete the post.

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                          Choroid wrote:

                          did not try to steal

                          Which is completely and entirely irrelevant.

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                            This reminds of story that I still find fascinating. Back when I was in college and studying Strengths of Materials one day the professor took us down the basement lab. The school had been hired as an expert witness in a court case. What happened was a grain elevator had been built and it collapsed resulting several deaths and the design company was sued. They contended that the design was sound and the construction was faulty. The school was given the job of constructing a section of the elevator wall according to specification and verify its capacity. As I recall, the specification called for two quarter-inch beads of glue and a nail every six inches on every board which were 2x4s with their wide side laid horizontally. They built about a 10x10 foot (I think it was) section of the wall and put it in the school's press to test it. This press was not nearly has massive as the USAF's in that article but it was pretty hefty. After testing, they found the specifications for the wall to be more than adequate. The wall was supported in the test by an I-beam whose members were one-inch thick steel and what happened was the I-beam began to deflect before the wall did so that verified that the wall was as stout as intended. The court found that the design was sound and the builders skimped by using one bead of glue and half the number of nails so the construction company was at fault.

                            "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                            Rick York wrote:

                            builders skimped by using one bead of glue and half the number of nails

                            Saving the big bucks I see.

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                              Rick York wrote:

                              skimped

                              In the drayage business (rigging) that is what is refered to as "greasing the skids". When I worked as a summer gandy (assistant) to big-boy haulers (drivers with licenses) consigned to removing Bullard Machine Presses from a big-name corporation assembly factory I was told this story about how that term came into being. To make a big story smaller then, short of cutting a big hole in the roof and using a big crane to pull the press out and swing it over onto a flatbed, the riggers sent a gandy down to the drug store to buy a case of Irish Spring and bring it back to the job site. Putting the rest of the gandies to work then, each with a bar of soap under a foot, the floor of the factory was smudged up with a quarter inch of bar soap. When a path of proper length was achieved, through the factory, between the other presses/big machines, the moved press was jockyed onto the slick layer and pushed all the way out of the factory. Then lifted onto the flatbed. Fun facts! ooo ... watch your head ...

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                              RedDk wrote:

                              buy a case of Irish Spring

                              Still used. Search in google for the following

                              how to fix a sticking door bar of soap

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                                Meanwhile you can't delete the post (because replied from members), but you can edit it and remove the link ;) On the other hand, I see no problem with that link...

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                                i see no problems with link or site. plane historia is a pretty plane jane site (pun intended). lots of new info for me.

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                                  Rick York wrote:

                                  skimped

                                  In the drayage business (rigging) that is what is refered to as "greasing the skids". When I worked as a summer gandy (assistant) to big-boy haulers (drivers with licenses) consigned to removing Bullard Machine Presses from a big-name corporation assembly factory I was told this story about how that term came into being. To make a big story smaller then, short of cutting a big hole in the roof and using a big crane to pull the press out and swing it over onto a flatbed, the riggers sent a gandy down to the drug store to buy a case of Irish Spring and bring it back to the job site. Putting the rest of the gandies to work then, each with a bar of soap under a foot, the floor of the factory was smudged up with a quarter inch of bar soap. When a path of proper length was achieved, through the factory, between the other presses/big machines, the moved press was jockyed onto the slick layer and pushed all the way out of the factory. Then lifted onto the flatbed. Fun facts! ooo ... watch your head ...

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                                  cool story. I once worked for a trucking company loading station. Good pay for a college kid. Big dock, too. Well one day a reckless fork life operator leaked about 400 gallons of shampoo across the dock. what mess when it spread. everything went spinning every which way, dolly's forklifts, guys. took about 2 shifts of 20 guys to clean.

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    It's not the link trying to steal info, it's the GDPR management screen that insists you untick everyone you don't want them to sell your info to - if you just pressed "accept" to get rid of it once it will sell it to every on on a long list because you have said they can. They have to show the GDPR dialog, but they don't have to have just an "accept" and a "reject" button. That annoys me because they deliberately make it hard to prevent them doing it. So I just walk away and don't go back.

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                    OG I did not have that experience I did click the CLOSE when they asked about push notifications and no other pop up questions after that I am using Firefox with a lot of blocking enabled in the settings Thanks for explaining

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                                      This reminds of story that I still find fascinating. Back when I was in college and studying Strengths of Materials one day the professor took us down the basement lab. The school had been hired as an expert witness in a court case. What happened was a grain elevator had been built and it collapsed resulting several deaths and the design company was sued. They contended that the design was sound and the construction was faulty. The school was given the job of constructing a section of the elevator wall according to specification and verify its capacity. As I recall, the specification called for two quarter-inch beads of glue and a nail every six inches on every board which were 2x4s with their wide side laid horizontally. They built about a 10x10 foot (I think it was) section of the wall and put it in the school's press to test it. This press was not nearly has massive as the USAF's in that article but it was pretty hefty. After testing, they found the specifications for the wall to be more than adequate. The wall was supported in the test by an I-beam whose members were one-inch thick steel and what happened was the I-beam began to deflect before the wall did so that verified that the wall was as stout as intended. The court found that the design was sound and the builders skimped by using one bead of glue and half the number of nails so the construction company was at fault.

                                      "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                                      As a hobbyist woodworker I appreciate the power of glue when assembling projects and tend to over use the number of screws and inflate the size in diameter and length Nails have higher sheer strength but not an issue for what I build with the exception of one Work Bench legs I built. Built one with 14 Ga and 16 Ga nails once I disagreed but client said he did not care wanted it rock solid so 4 by 4 legs and nails it was Nails and Glue are so cheep why skimp ? Thanks for the story

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                                        i see no problems with link or site. plane historia is a pretty plane jane site (pun intended). lots of new info for me.

                                        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                        Choroid
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                                        Glad you enjoyed the link

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                                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                          Years ago I worked for a company that among other thing made paper milk cartons. We would take all scrap to a press that would press the paper into a bundle so it could be recycled. The lip of the press was at floor level and the moving part of the press came down into the floor. We had a guy working there that was a real moron, and one day me and another guy were taking some cardboard to the press and when we started the machine we heard a groan from the pit and here's this guy down there. He had fallen in!

                                          I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else. PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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                                          While living in Oregon I got to visit Boise Cascade plant where they made plywood I ask the guide what would happen if someone fell in the press he replied "The plywood would be red and ruined" OSHA wanted a fence around the press that did not happen it slowed the loading process Working at Diebold Lock & Safe the crane operator high up 100 ft or more dropped a Bank Vault door because the load was not rigged up secure by the loader

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