Where are the intelligent people?
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dandy72 wrote:
Are you?
Nope. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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So true!! I have an SO story that still burns deeply. I once posted a question to electronics.stackexchange.com (the most ruthless of all SO/SE sites) and I was asking : Why is it that capacitors with lower farad ratings often go up on Voltage rating. I had searched and searched for the answer. I really wanted to know the answer. I wrote up extra info and was very curios. Some editor deleted my question so that I couldn't even see the question again. It was just closed but it was deleted. I took like 20 minutes researching and writing it up and they freaking deleted it!!! Still kills me. :mad::mad::mad::mad:
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Maximilien wrote:
The few people I know that were mensa, were not pleasant, mostly large ego and obnoxious.
That's been my concern as well. It would be worse, not better. IQ tests aren't perfect (diff discussion for a diff day) but they can most certainly give a false sense of something.
Maximilien wrote:
if you want to have a quality chat on various topics, find local groups with in-person meetings.
Easier than said than done. I've ran meetup groups before, and I used to check them out. While people don't bicker and argue as much in person, you're not always meeting a genius.
Maximilien wrote:
Also, being intelligent is different than being informed and be able to talk about stuff.
Yeah. There's more than one type of intelligence though. I totally agree; I would just extend that concept of saying a person that can chat coherently is expressing a different kind of intelligence ya know.
Maximilien wrote:
Again, I know a lot of people who are intelligent but only in their fields, they are not curious about anything else.
I used to think this, but no longer do. I don't define knowledgeable as intelligent. To me, being intelligent takes a certain amount of introspection that a lot of people don't have. Granted, others may refer to this as wisdom, but after years of talking to non-introspective peeps I'm no longer convinced they're even intelligent by the classic definition. I'm jaded man. :laugh:
Maximilien wrote:
Good luck.
Thanks buddy.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
IQ tests aren't perfect (diff discussion for a diff day) but they can most certainly give a false sense of something.
They are wrong, according to them I should be half genious and I know I am not.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
While people don't bicker and argue as much in person, you're not always meeting a genius.
Genious tend to be a bit difficult socially, being that much "ahead" mostly isolates them from a good part of people.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Yeah. There's more than one type of intelligence though. I totally agree;
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I would just extend that concept of saying a person that can chat coherently is expressing a different kind of intelligence ya know.
is that not actually eloquence?
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I don't define knowledgeable as intelligent.
Not the only one thinking this
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
To me, being intelligent takes a certain amount of introspection that a lot of people don't have.
Do not forget the ability to observe, to analyze and to adapt to the surroundings / current situation. I find that the most important part of intelligence.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Granted, others may refer to this as wisdom
For me wisdom is the hability to use the knowledge the proper way.
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Based on the current lot, I suspect not. There's one thing to be incompetent; another thing entirely to be so blatantly obviously incompetent and easily exposed. I know a couple of MPs and they're dedicated, hard-working, talented and very intelligent. Whilst they hold various portfolios I suspect they're too intelligent to rise any higher.
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DerekT-P wrote:
Whilst they hold various portfolios I suspect they're too intelligent to rise any higher.
Probably because the ones that rise are mostly not the intelligent, but the charismatic who move masses.
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Seriously, it's not FB and it's not here... save for one or two peeps. Or maybe they're smart enough to avoid the lounge, and I'm not. Willing to accept I'm not the intelligent one here. :laugh: I always thought about looking into Mensa, but I'm not so sure that's worth it to be honest. Maybe I should reevaluate. For real though, looking for intelligent peeps so I can have a higher quality of chat. Online bickering with ignorance isn't fulfilling anymore. There's no advancement in that. It's actually revolting and disgusting in my view. Maybe I'm not being realistic or perhaps I'm too immature to simply ignore the clowns. Will accept that because I seem to attract them. Just want to know where the intelligent people are because so far, they're very, very rare it seems. Btw, if you say you're intelligent you're not. And if this offends you, you're also not.
Jeremy Falcon
What topics would you find sufficiently stimulating to spend time on?
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Gary Wheeler wrote:
I've never sought out intelligent people, other than those who were intelligent at getting along with others. I've encountered plenty of smart people whose intelligence was wasted because they were first-order asshats.
I think you hit the nail on the head man. And I see that getting along with folks takes a certain amount of both and also some introspection. You can be "dumb smart" as in you know a lot about a subject, but that's just being a parrot and repeating crap you memorize. Doesn't mean that person is a genius, etc. At best they'd be better than average about one particular subject only.
Gary Wheeler wrote:
As I've gotten older I've realized "smarts" aren't as important as the ability to get along, understand another's viewpoint, and to recognize that answers for me may not work for someone else.
Agree buddy... well in theory. Don't think I'm mature enough to just ignore the fluff yet. Thar be a lot of it. And ultimately that's what's driving this sense of isolation I get. Like, I dunno about you, but even on CP I know I have very little in common with most people here. Once you've experience some things, you just know who lacks it ya know. And it's a lot of peeps. So, really hard to talk about something that you know for the rando on the only end is completely clueless about, but they swear they're not. I'm learning to avoid it man... just reeeeeeaaaalllly slowly. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
but even on CP I know I have very little in common with most people here
That doesn't imply that there are not intelligent people here or that you are more intelligent as us :rolleyes:
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Mike Hankey wrote:
I've known PHDs that didn't know which end of a screw driver was the usable end. I've know expert carpenters that couldn't tell you who Einstein was.
I think what you're describing there is more education than intelligence.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Or knowledge?
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Mensa is weird. The few people I know that were mensa, were not pleasant, mostly large ego and obnoxious. if you want to have a quality chat on various topics, find local groups with in-person meetings. Also, being intelligent is different than being informed and be able to talk about stuff. Again, I know a lot of people who are intelligent but only in their fields, they are not curious about anything else. Good luck.
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Probably smart enough to stay off the Internet.
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I am more interested in how kind people are than how smart they are. But you're right. I joined an online banter group and the right wing filth in there worked out I have morals and started to mass report my accounts to get them deleted. My attempts at finding basic friendship are always frustrated by the fact I have morals
Christian Graus wrote:
My attempts at finding basic friendship are always frustrated by the fact I have a kind of morals not compatible with theirs
FTFY moral is like beauty, it depends on the eye that is looking at it.
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I learned a long time ago to read a lot of books. That's where I find "intelligent" people. These book are some of my favorites and I've read them all at least once - most of them I've read numerous times. If you read all of these and need more, I've got them. :) Here's a list of books that I highly recommend: Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World[^] Turns modern ideas upside down and will make you think again about what learning is and why it's important to learn tons of stuff that normally doesn't belong together. Do Hard Things: Why We Get Resilience Wrong and the Surprising Science of Real Toughness[^] Gets to the root of how motivation works. Explains the modern problems that people are having with being resilient. Will open your eyes in many ways. The story from the author is fantastic one of achievement even while becoming overwhelmed by life.
Interesting... thanks for the list.
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Christian Graus wrote:
My attempts at finding basic friendship are always frustrated by the fact I have a kind of morals not compatible with theirs
FTFY moral is like beauty, it depends on the eye that is looking at it.
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No, I'm sorry, trying to kill muslims and trans kids is not morals
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Interesting... thanks for the list.
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What topics would you find sufficiently stimulating to spend time on?
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Seriously, it's not FB and it's not here... save for one or two peeps. Or maybe they're smart enough to avoid the lounge, and I'm not. Willing to accept I'm not the intelligent one here. :laugh: I always thought about looking into Mensa, but I'm not so sure that's worth it to be honest. Maybe I should reevaluate. For real though, looking for intelligent peeps so I can have a higher quality of chat. Online bickering with ignorance isn't fulfilling anymore. There's no advancement in that. It's actually revolting and disgusting in my view. Maybe I'm not being realistic or perhaps I'm too immature to simply ignore the clowns. Will accept that because I seem to attract them. Just want to know where the intelligent people are because so far, they're very, very rare it seems. Btw, if you say you're intelligent you're not. And if this offends you, you're also not.
Jeremy Falcon
What do you have in mind, when you utter the words "intelligent people"?
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He could start his own cult? As a cult leader absolute agreement with the cult leader is always required.
Doesn't someone have to think they are intelligent to decide they can accurately assess the intelligence of others? And what did he say about that? I forgot already. Anyway, if anyone needs to know anything about Jeremy, they just need to read that post.
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Seriously, it's not FB and it's not here... save for one or two peeps. Or maybe they're smart enough to avoid the lounge, and I'm not. Willing to accept I'm not the intelligent one here. :laugh: I always thought about looking into Mensa, but I'm not so sure that's worth it to be honest. Maybe I should reevaluate. For real though, looking for intelligent peeps so I can have a higher quality of chat. Online bickering with ignorance isn't fulfilling anymore. There's no advancement in that. It's actually revolting and disgusting in my view. Maybe I'm not being realistic or perhaps I'm too immature to simply ignore the clowns. Will accept that because I seem to attract them. Just want to know where the intelligent people are because so far, they're very, very rare it seems. Btw, if you say you're intelligent you're not. And if this offends you, you're also not.
Jeremy Falcon
Needing intelligent conversation is why I talk to myself.
"Mistakes are prevented by Experience. Experience is gained by making mistakes."
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No, I'm sorry, trying to kill muslims and trans kids is not morals
Hmm, morals, the principles of right and wrong, isn't something we are born with, it's taught and learned. Like normality it's relative. Relative to your family, relative to your community, relative to your society, but unlike normality it isn't relative to our species.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Seriously, it's not FB and it's not here... save for one or two peeps. Or maybe they're smart enough to avoid the lounge, and I'm not. Willing to accept I'm not the intelligent one here. :laugh: I always thought about looking into Mensa, but I'm not so sure that's worth it to be honest. Maybe I should reevaluate. For real though, looking for intelligent peeps so I can have a higher quality of chat. Online bickering with ignorance isn't fulfilling anymore. There's no advancement in that. It's actually revolting and disgusting in my view. Maybe I'm not being realistic or perhaps I'm too immature to simply ignore the clowns. Will accept that because I seem to attract them. Just want to know where the intelligent people are because so far, they're very, very rare it seems. Btw, if you say you're intelligent you're not. And if this offends you, you're also not.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Just want to know where the intelligent people are
They are in cabinet or parliament, whatever you call it from your side.
"Coming soon"
devenv.exe wrote:
They are in cabinet or parliament, whatever you call it from your side.
Not from what I've seen.
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What topics would you find sufficiently stimulating to spend time on?
Any topic really. If you find someone who isn't irrational, actually intelligent, and so on... everything becomes interesting. If they're clowns (regardless if they think they're smart) then it's just repetitive diatribe when exploring anything of substance.
Jeremy Falcon
