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  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

    Mike Hankey wrote:

    I've known PHDs that didn't know which end of a screw driver was the usable end. I've know expert carpenters that couldn't tell you who Einstein was.

    I think what you're describing there is more education than intelligence.

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    Nelek
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    Or knowledge?

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    • M Maximilien

      Mensa is weird. The few people I know that were mensa, were not pleasant, mostly large ego and obnoxious. if you want to have a quality chat on various topics, find local groups with in-person meetings. Also, being intelligent is different than being informed and be able to talk about stuff. Again, I know a lot of people who are intelligent but only in their fields, they are not curious about anything else. Good luck.

      CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair

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      Probably smart enough to stay off the Internet.

      >64 Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.

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      • C Christian Graus

        I am more interested in how kind people are than how smart they are. But you're right. I joined an online banter group and the right wing filth in there worked out I have morals and started to mass report my accounts to get them deleted. My attempts at finding basic friendship are always frustrated by the fact I have morals

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        My attempts at finding basic friendship are always frustrated by the fact I have a kind of morals not compatible with theirs

        FTFY moral is like beauty, it depends on the eye that is looking at it.

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • R raddevus

          I learned a long time ago to read a lot of books. That's where I find "intelligent" people. These book are some of my favorites and I've read them all at least once - most of them I've read numerous times. If you read all of these and need more, I've got them. :) Here's a list of books that I highly recommend: Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World[^] Turns modern ideas upside down and will make you think again about what learning is and why it's important to learn tons of stuff that normally doesn't belong together. Do Hard Things: Why We Get Resilience Wrong and the Surprising Science of Real Toughness[^] Gets to the root of how motivation works. Explains the modern problems that people are having with being resilient. Will open your eyes in many ways. The story from the author is fantastic one of achievement even while becoming overwhelmed by life.

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          Nelek
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          Interesting... thanks for the list.

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            My attempts at finding basic friendship are always frustrated by the fact I have a kind of morals not compatible with theirs

            FTFY moral is like beauty, it depends on the eye that is looking at it.

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            Christian Graus
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            No, I'm sorry, trying to kill muslims and trans kids is not morals

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              Interesting... thanks for the list.

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              raddevus
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              If you read any of those (or have read) I'm open to discussion about them. :thumbsup:

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              • G Gary Stachelski 2021

                What topics would you find sufficiently stimulating to spend time on?

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                That's a very insightful question. :thumbsup:

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  Seriously, it's not FB and it's not here... save for one or two peeps. Or maybe they're smart enough to avoid the lounge, and I'm not. Willing to accept I'm not the intelligent one here. :laugh: I always thought about looking into Mensa, but I'm not so sure that's worth it to be honest. Maybe I should reevaluate. For real though, looking for intelligent peeps so I can have a higher quality of chat. Online bickering with ignorance isn't fulfilling anymore. There's no advancement in that. It's actually revolting and disgusting in my view. Maybe I'm not being realistic or perhaps I'm too immature to simply ignore the clowns. Will accept that because I seem to attract them. Just want to know where the intelligent people are because so far, they're very, very rare it seems. Btw, if you say you're intelligent you're not. And if this offends you, you're also not.

                  Jeremy Falcon

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                  Julian Ragan
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                  What do you have in mind, when you utter the words "intelligent people"?

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                  • J jschell

                    He could start his own cult? As a cult leader absolute agreement with the cult leader is always required.

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                    honey the codewitch
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                    Doesn't someone have to think they are intelligent to decide they can accurately assess the intelligence of others? And what did he say about that? I forgot already. Anyway, if anyone needs to know anything about Jeremy, they just need to read that post.

                    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                    • J Jeremy Falcon

                      Seriously, it's not FB and it's not here... save for one or two peeps. Or maybe they're smart enough to avoid the lounge, and I'm not. Willing to accept I'm not the intelligent one here. :laugh: I always thought about looking into Mensa, but I'm not so sure that's worth it to be honest. Maybe I should reevaluate. For real though, looking for intelligent peeps so I can have a higher quality of chat. Online bickering with ignorance isn't fulfilling anymore. There's no advancement in that. It's actually revolting and disgusting in my view. Maybe I'm not being realistic or perhaps I'm too immature to simply ignore the clowns. Will accept that because I seem to attract them. Just want to know where the intelligent people are because so far, they're very, very rare it seems. Btw, if you say you're intelligent you're not. And if this offends you, you're also not.

                      Jeremy Falcon

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                      Matthew Dennis
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                      Needing intelligent conversation is why I talk to myself.

                      "Mistakes are prevented by Experience. Experience is gained by making mistakes."

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        No, I'm sorry, trying to kill muslims and trans kids is not morals

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        Hmm, morals, the principles of right and wrong, isn't something we are born with, it's taught and learned. Like normality it's relative. Relative to your family, relative to your community, relative to your society, but unlike normality it isn't relative to our species.

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                          Seriously, it's not FB and it's not here... save for one or two peeps. Or maybe they're smart enough to avoid the lounge, and I'm not. Willing to accept I'm not the intelligent one here. :laugh: I always thought about looking into Mensa, but I'm not so sure that's worth it to be honest. Maybe I should reevaluate. For real though, looking for intelligent peeps so I can have a higher quality of chat. Online bickering with ignorance isn't fulfilling anymore. There's no advancement in that. It's actually revolting and disgusting in my view. Maybe I'm not being realistic or perhaps I'm too immature to simply ignore the clowns. Will accept that because I seem to attract them. Just want to know where the intelligent people are because so far, they're very, very rare it seems. Btw, if you say you're intelligent you're not. And if this offends you, you're also not.

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                          Daniel Pfeffer
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                          Q: Is there any intelligent life on Earth? A: Yes, but I'm just visiting.

                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                          • D devenv exe

                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            Just want to know where the intelligent people are

                            They are in cabinet or parliament, whatever you call it from your side.

                            "Coming soon"

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                            StarNamer work
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                            devenv.exe wrote:

                            They are in cabinet or parliament, whatever you call it from your side.

                            Not from what I've seen.

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                            • G Gary Stachelski 2021

                              What topics would you find sufficiently stimulating to spend time on?

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              Any topic really. If you find someone who isn't irrational, actually intelligent, and so on... everything becomes interesting. If they're clowns (regardless if they think they're smart) then it's just repetitive diatribe when exploring anything of substance.

                              Jeremy Falcon

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                              • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                Q: Is there any intelligent life on Earth? A: Yes, but I'm just visiting.

                                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                Ha ha ha.

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                                • M Matthew Dennis

                                  Needing intelligent conversation is why I talk to myself.

                                  "Mistakes are prevented by Experience. Experience is gained by making mistakes."

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  Ha ha ha. The struggle is real.

                                  Jeremy Falcon

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                                  • R raddevus

                                    I learned a long time ago to read a lot of books. That's where I find "intelligent" people. These book are some of my favorites and I've read them all at least once - most of them I've read numerous times. If you read all of these and need more, I've got them. :) Here's a list of books that I highly recommend: Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World[^] Turns modern ideas upside down and will make you think again about what learning is and why it's important to learn tons of stuff that normally doesn't belong together. Do Hard Things: Why We Get Resilience Wrong and the Surprising Science of Real Toughness[^] Gets to the root of how motivation works. Explains the modern problems that people are having with being resilient. Will open your eyes in many ways. The story from the author is fantastic one of achievement even while becoming overwhelmed by life.

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                                    Jeremy Falcon
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                                    Thanks for the list, I may pick up the audio books for the non-fiction stuff. I would imagine that GoT books are excellent, but these days if it's fiction I'll just watch the movie to save time. Still read non-fiction though... well listen to the audio books really, but we'll call that reading. :laugh:

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                                    • N Nelek

                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      but even on CP I know I have very little in common with most people here

                                      That doesn't imply that there are not intelligent people here or that you are more intelligent as us :rolleyes:

                                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                      Jeremy Falcon
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                                      Nelek wrote:

                                      That doesn't imply that there are not intelligent people here or that you are more intelligent as us

                                      If you read the original post again that's why I said I can accept I may be the stupid one. That being said, I do think experience is the real teacher in life. Those who are experienced in a field know when someone who is not is speaking. There's a lot of argumentative, inexperienced people here. And for that reason, I do feel as if I don't have much in common. For instance, I've lived in Vegas... lived. Had some dude on CP argue about how nice Vegas is who's never been there. How foolish can people be? It's a waste of time and life energy.

                                      Jeremy Falcon

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                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        For real though, looking for intelligent peeps so I can have a higher quality of chat.

                                        Not interested, sorry.

                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        Btw, if you say you're intelligent you're not

                                        Her name is Tiffany, and you might want to read Pratchett. I'm not bright, nor intelligent. Who says you need be, to become hag of the hills?

                                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        Not interested, sorry.

                                        You're not intelligent enough to leave me alone, so I don't care.

                                        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                        I'm not bright, nor intelligent. Who says you need be, to become hag of the hills?

                                        Go away.

                                        Jeremy Falcon

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                                        • N Nelek

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          IQ tests aren't perfect (diff discussion for a diff day) but they can most certainly give a false sense of something.

                                          They are wrong, according to them I should be half genious and I know I am not.

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          While people don't bicker and argue as much in person, you're not always meeting a genius.

                                          Genious tend to be a bit difficult socially, being that much "ahead" mostly isolates them from a good part of people.

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          Yeah. There's more than one type of intelligence though. I totally agree;

                                          :thumbsup:

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          I would just extend that concept of saying a person that can chat coherently is expressing a different kind of intelligence ya know.

                                          is that not actually eloquence?

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          I don't define knowledgeable as intelligent.

                                          Not the only one thinking this

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          To me, being intelligent takes a certain amount of introspection that a lot of people don't have.

                                          Do not forget the ability to observe, to analyze and to adapt to the surroundings / current situation. I find that the most important part of intelligence.

                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          Granted, others may refer to this as wisdom

                                          For me wisdom is the hability to use the knowledge the proper way.

                                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          Nelek wrote:

                                          Genious tend to be a bit difficult socially, being that much "ahead" mostly isolates them from a good part of people.

                                          Oh I know. I've argued over the years with people like on CP on crap I was 100% correct about before it happens. Most of my experience here has been nothing but arguing with people pretending to be smart.

                                          Nelek wrote:

                                          is that not actually eloquence?

                                          One could argue that being eloquent is a form of intelligence. This is squabbling over semantics man. This is what I'm talking about. People just argue to sound smart but while losing the actual point of the message.

                                          Nelek wrote:

                                          Do not forget the ability to observe, to analyze and to adapt to the surroundings / current situation. I find that the most important part of intelligence.

                                          People should adapt, but not at the expense of becoming dumber or not true to themselves. The fact that I've been trying to adapt means I agree with the idea. But as always, there's going to be a stupid argument on CP, etc. by people who are just not worthy of other people's time. So, there's adaptation and then there's wasting time in life with mindless repetition. Find the balance, else we have no advancement in life.

                                          Nelek wrote:

                                          For me wisdom is the hability to use the knowledge the proper way.

                                          :thumbsup: Side note, I'm sure you know, but you and I have had some decent chats. So, I know there are peeps here that can hold a normal conversation with some substance. They just be rare.

                                          Jeremy Falcon

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