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  • S Steve Raw

    When you're driving on sidewalks, how fast do you go? My speed record for driving on a sidewalk is 63 mph. What about you?

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    CPallini
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    I run on sidewalks at about 8 mph.

    "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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    • S Steve Raw

      k5054 wrote:

      You do not know if anyone reading this has lost a loved one to a vehicle that mounted a curb.

      I've lost a loved one who was a pedestrian that was hit by a pickup truck.

      k5054 wrote:

      Such attempts at humor are quite likely to retraumatize, possibly triggering a PTSD event.

      Anything could trigger something in someone. Where do you suppose we draw the line? Is it up to you to determine if someone is triggered, or not? Let's ask everyone, here. Are any of you triggered by my post into a psychotic episode? Does this mean we should avoid all humor whatsoever, just because you're worried about triggering someone? Who are you to condemn free speech?

      k5054 wrote:

      Stop trying to be funny. So far, speaking for myself, its just been annoying.

      I have a good idea. Maybe you should relax, and quit taking yourself so seriously. If you don't think its funny, no one else cares. I'm not going to ask for your opinion on what's funny, and what's not. Do I need your permission in order to post something? Here's an even better idea, when you see any post with my name on it, don't click on it. No one owes you anything, and you are not entitled to anything. Go ahead and signal your virtue to all, I'm delighted at how woke you are. No one's getting hurt, or offended, or crying. ...Except for you.

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      Steve Raw wrote:

      I have a good idea.

      I have a better one; think before you post something that you think is funny. We do not all share your sense of humour.

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        Steve Raw wrote:

        I have a good idea.

        I have a better one; think before you post something that you think is funny. We do not all share your sense of humour.

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        Richard MacCutchan wrote:

        We do not all share your sense of humour.

        You consider that to be a good idea? OK, you want me to think about what you'd prefer to read before posting to this forum... What justifies your entitlement? Does the world revolve around you? If it does, then why? Is it my obligation to facilitate your sense of humor? Am I supposed to make you laugh? No. You have no authority to dictate to anyone what they should, and should not post in this forum. If you don't think something is funny, then don't laugh at it. If I think something is amusing, I'll post it if I choose to. It doesn't matter if I'm the only one who finds it amusing, I have the right to express myself however I choose to. Before you criticize me, it may be a good idea to reflect upon your own demonstrated audacity and arrogance. Why is it that you assert that my posts must cater to your preferences?

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        • S Steve Raw

          Richard MacCutchan wrote:

          We do not all share your sense of humour.

          You consider that to be a good idea? OK, you want me to think about what you'd prefer to read before posting to this forum... What justifies your entitlement? Does the world revolve around you? If it does, then why? Is it my obligation to facilitate your sense of humor? Am I supposed to make you laugh? No. You have no authority to dictate to anyone what they should, and should not post in this forum. If you don't think something is funny, then don't laugh at it. If I think something is amusing, I'll post it if I choose to. It doesn't matter if I'm the only one who finds it amusing, I have the right to express myself however I choose to. Before you criticize me, it may be a good idea to reflect upon your own demonstrated audacity and arrogance. Why is it that you assert that my posts must cater to your preferences?

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          That is not what I said, I specifically said, "think before you post". No need to turn into a troll.

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            This is in particularly poor taste. You do not know if anyone reading this has lost a loved one to a vehicle that mounted a curb. Such attempts at humor are quite likely to retraumatize, possibly triggering a PTSD event. Stop trying to be funny. So far, speaking for myself, its just been annoying.

            "A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants" Chuckles the clown

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            Best not to feed trolls

            >64 There is never enough time to do it right, but there is enough time to do it over.

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              That is not what I said, I specifically said, "think before you post". No need to turn into a troll.

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              Steve Raw
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              Richard MacCutchan wrote:

              That is not what I said, I specifically said, "think before you post". No need to turn into a troll.

              It's not my fault that you didn't adequately communicate what you wanted to say. When communicating via text, keep in mind that most of what you are communicating is lost. No one can see your body language. No one can hear the tone of voice you're speaking in. I shouldn't have to teach you this. Perhaps if you were to think before you post something, you'd be better able to communicate what you have to say. Please consider that. What is it that you're attempting to accomplish here?

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                Best not to feed trolls

                >64 There is never enough time to do it right, but there is enough time to do it over.

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                Steve Raw
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                theoldfool wrote:

                Best not to feed trolls

                I'm not feeding them. They're purposefully antagonizing others while denying the very fact that their motivation is to demean and provoke others.

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                  k5054 wrote:

                  You do not know if anyone reading this has lost a loved one to a vehicle that mounted a curb.

                  I've lost a loved one who was a pedestrian that was hit by a pickup truck.

                  k5054 wrote:

                  Such attempts at humor are quite likely to retraumatize, possibly triggering a PTSD event.

                  Anything could trigger something in someone. Where do you suppose we draw the line? Is it up to you to determine if someone is triggered, or not? Let's ask everyone, here. Are any of you triggered by my post into a psychotic episode? Does this mean we should avoid all humor whatsoever, just because you're worried about triggering someone? Who are you to condemn free speech?

                  k5054 wrote:

                  Stop trying to be funny. So far, speaking for myself, its just been annoying.

                  I have a good idea. Maybe you should relax, and quit taking yourself so seriously. If you don't think its funny, no one else cares. I'm not going to ask for your opinion on what's funny, and what's not. Do I need your permission in order to post something? Here's an even better idea, when you see any post with my name on it, don't click on it. No one owes you anything, and you are not entitled to anything. Go ahead and signal your virtue to all, I'm delighted at how woke you are. No one's getting hurt, or offended, or crying. ...Except for you.

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                  we are all fortunate your loved one was not beheaded by ISIS . re/ where to draw lines ... somewhere may be better than nowhere . re/ who is it up to ... you . re/ avoiding all humor ... why is it always all or nothing . re/ condemning free speech ... surely you're joking Mr. Feynman . re/ relax ... good advice . see above . re/ quit taking yourself so seriously ... also good advice . re/ no one ... he is one . in conclusion "If you can"t be good be long ." attribution unknown possibly Arlo Guthrie

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                  • D dandy72

                    I drive on roads, just to be on the safe side, in the event I encounter a driver like you.

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                    You obviously haven't driven in Italy. Sidewalks are fair game there.

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                    • S Steve Raw

                      When you're driving on sidewalks, how fast do you go? My speed record for driving on a sidewalk is 63 mph. What about you?

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                      Steve Raw wrote:

                      on a sidewalk is 63 mph.

                      The curbs must a real b****.

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                        we are all fortunate your loved one was not beheaded by ISIS . re/ where to draw lines ... somewhere may be better than nowhere . re/ who is it up to ... you . re/ avoiding all humor ... why is it always all or nothing . re/ condemning free speech ... surely you're joking Mr. Feynman . re/ relax ... good advice . see above . re/ quit taking yourself so seriously ... also good advice . re/ no one ... he is one . in conclusion "If you can"t be good be long ." attribution unknown possibly Arlo Guthrie

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                        Steve Raw
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                        BernardIE5317 wrote:

                        we are all fortunate your loved one was not beheaded by ISIS .

                        I upvoted your post and gave you a thumbs up. Why? You're demonstrating who you are by what you're willing to say. You're showing your true self, and you're being honest. What kind of person would say such a thing? I've lost all respect for you, and it's not my fault. It's not my choice. Having read through all the replies in this thread, I find yours to be the most reprehensible of all. For every one of you who took the initiative to post nasty and provocative replies, I would like to thank you for showing your true colors. It's tremendously disappointing to me that a simple joke is all it takes for you to eagerly unleash such vitriol. It's unwarranted, it's derogatory and completely unfounded. I know the truth. I'm not trolling anyone. You don't have to believe me, but you cannot refute the truth that I possess with what you do not know, or understand. Who do you think you're hurting? You're hurting yourselves, along with the decent people who belong to this forum. You should be ashamed of yourselves for willfully inflicting damage upon the otherwise good reputation that CodeProject has rightfully earned through dedication and hard work by so many people. Prospective members and advertisers will read this thread, and they will choose to go elsewhere. I can't blame them. You're given the opportunity to present yourselves, yet you collectively choose to behave like animals. Why would I want to surround myself with people like you? Why would anyone associate with you? This site is what you make it, and you clearly demonstrate what you want it to be. If you want to be hateful, so be it. Just don't complain when the consequences of your actions come full circle. It's your own fault.

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                          You obviously haven't driven in Italy. Sidewalks are fair game there.

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                          That explains why Fiats are so narrow! I see them on US highways and they look so under-sized!

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                            Steve Raw wrote:

                            on a sidewalk is 63 mph.

                            The curbs must a real b****.

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                            jschell wrote:

                            The curbs must a real b****.

                            Actually, I don't really notice them. I'd say they're more of an inconvenience that I accept to be something I must live with. If I don't want to plow over a curb, I steer over to the far lane into oncoming traffic. Fire hydrants have caused me some difficulty. I try and avoid them whenever I can. I think you'd be surprised by how many other people drive on the sidewalk, too. Your choice of direction is arbitrary, so you have to think fast when you encounter someone coming at you head-on. It is what it is, and I can't change that.

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                              When you're driving on sidewalks, how fast do you go? My speed record for driving on a sidewalk is 63 mph. What about you?

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                              You live in the US, drive on sidewalks on a regular basis, and haven't been stopped by the police, fined and/or lost your license? Photos or it didn't happen!

                              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                You live in the US, drive on sidewalks on a regular basis, and haven't been stopped by the police, fined and/or lost your license? Photos or it didn't happen!

                                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                                You live in the US, drive on sidewalks on a regular basis, and haven't been stopped by the police, fined and/or lost your license? Photos or it didn't happen!

                                You're making quite a few assumptions in your post. It seems as though conjuring up assumptions is an ongoing theme in this thread. I'm not directing my post toward you, Daniel. You asked a reasonable question. I'm referring to the nasty people who believe they have a right to jump to conclusions, based on information that a single question provides them. Nothing more. I state that I drive on sidewalks. I don't state the context, the facts, or any other information on which to support why I mention this, or what meanings it may have. As a result of posting my statement, dozens of people who believe they have the right to judge me, conclude who I am as a person. Based on their irrational assumptions, they somehow get the impression that they're entitled to be the morally superior warriors of forum justice. They fabricate a hypothetical statement to cast me as the villain, and that's where it begins. Next, they pursue justice by attacking the evil villain. What I don't understand is that they don't use virtue to condemn this evil-doer. They spew hatred at this product of their imagination. How can a person be the moral authority, if they go about pursuing internet forum justice by using hate? Isn't that odd? These people are looking for someone to harass, insult, condemn, and provoke. Hiding behind a virtuous facade provides them with what they think is justification to go about their reprehensible behavior. Who are these people fooling? Why doesn't this kind of thing happen to me in public? Cowardice? No, they can't possibly be cowards. Hiding behind a screen, using anonymity, they exercise their mighty powers of good over evil. Once they leave their home, their power instantly disappears. These brave social warriors don't behave this way in public. They're too scared. Even on the internet, they must gang up on the unrighteous evildoer. Dozens of other sinless warriors pile on and mob mentality ensues. See, it's easy to defer culpability when every other person is involved in the hate fest. I wish they would just leave their home and try this in public to the face of a human being whom they don't have the courage to make eye contact with. I know it, they know it, and others know it. Absolute cowar

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                                  BernardIE5317 wrote:

                                  we are all fortunate your loved one was not beheaded by ISIS .

                                  I upvoted your post and gave you a thumbs up. Why? You're demonstrating who you are by what you're willing to say. You're showing your true self, and you're being honest. What kind of person would say such a thing? I've lost all respect for you, and it's not my fault. It's not my choice. Having read through all the replies in this thread, I find yours to be the most reprehensible of all. For every one of you who took the initiative to post nasty and provocative replies, I would like to thank you for showing your true colors. It's tremendously disappointing to me that a simple joke is all it takes for you to eagerly unleash such vitriol. It's unwarranted, it's derogatory and completely unfounded. I know the truth. I'm not trolling anyone. You don't have to believe me, but you cannot refute the truth that I possess with what you do not know, or understand. Who do you think you're hurting? You're hurting yourselves, along with the decent people who belong to this forum. You should be ashamed of yourselves for willfully inflicting damage upon the otherwise good reputation that CodeProject has rightfully earned through dedication and hard work by so many people. Prospective members and advertisers will read this thread, and they will choose to go elsewhere. I can't blame them. You're given the opportunity to present yourselves, yet you collectively choose to behave like animals. Why would I want to surround myself with people like you? Why would anyone associate with you? This site is what you make it, and you clearly demonstrate what you want it to be. If you want to be hateful, so be it. Just don't complain when the consequences of your actions come full circle. It's your own fault.

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                                  BernardIE5317
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                                  i apologize for such an offensive statement .

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                                  • S Steve Raw

                                    theoldfool wrote:

                                    Best not to feed trolls

                                    I'm not feeding them. They're purposefully antagonizing others while denying the very fact that their motivation is to demean and provoke others.

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                                    I think a lot of people here are forgetting the fundamental thing about a joke: the subject of the joke is very rarely the actual target of the joke. If people are offended (whatever that means?) don't ever watch Ricky Gervais' Armageddon show! "Make a Wish" #Armageddon - YouTube[^]

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                                      i apologize for such an offensive statement .

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                                      Steve Raw
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                                      BernardIE5317 wrote:

                                      i apologize for such an offensive statement .

                                      Oh, wow. BernardIE5317, that takes guts. That is the best demonstration of exceptional character that I have seen on this forum. You could have walked away, but you made the the choice to take responsibility and do what is right. I accept your apology and my respect for you is not only restored, but I admire you for demonstrating what true character looks like. You're a good guy, BernardIE5317. I like you.

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                                        I think a lot of people here are forgetting the fundamental thing about a joke: the subject of the joke is very rarely the actual target of the joke. If people are offended (whatever that means?) don't ever watch Ricky Gervais' Armageddon show! "Make a Wish" #Armageddon - YouTube[^]

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                                        Paul6124 wrote:

                                        I think a lot of people here are forgetting the fundamental thing about a joke: the subject of the joke is very rarely the actual target of the joke. If people are offended (whatever that means?) don't ever watch Ricky Gervais' Armageddon show!

                                        Good post, Paul6124. This post provided some much-needed humor. Irreverent humor that speaks freely, with complete disregard for people who can't handle it, is exactly what people need to see. :thumbsup:

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                                          BernardIE5317 wrote:

                                          we are all fortunate your loved one was not beheaded by ISIS .

                                          I upvoted your post and gave you a thumbs up. Why? You're demonstrating who you are by what you're willing to say. You're showing your true self, and you're being honest. What kind of person would say such a thing? I've lost all respect for you, and it's not my fault. It's not my choice. Having read through all the replies in this thread, I find yours to be the most reprehensible of all. For every one of you who took the initiative to post nasty and provocative replies, I would like to thank you for showing your true colors. It's tremendously disappointing to me that a simple joke is all it takes for you to eagerly unleash such vitriol. It's unwarranted, it's derogatory and completely unfounded. I know the truth. I'm not trolling anyone. You don't have to believe me, but you cannot refute the truth that I possess with what you do not know, or understand. Who do you think you're hurting? You're hurting yourselves, along with the decent people who belong to this forum. You should be ashamed of yourselves for willfully inflicting damage upon the otherwise good reputation that CodeProject has rightfully earned through dedication and hard work by so many people. Prospective members and advertisers will read this thread, and they will choose to go elsewhere. I can't blame them. You're given the opportunity to present yourselves, yet you collectively choose to behave like animals. Why would I want to surround myself with people like you? Why would anyone associate with you? This site is what you make it, and you clearly demonstrate what you want it to be. If you want to be hateful, so be it. Just don't complain when the consequences of your actions come full circle. It's your own fault.

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                                          BernardIE5317
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                                          re/ like animals ... holy guacamole Batman .

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