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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    pkfox
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    I was just contemplating emailing you - we've missed you.

    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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      Peter_in_2780
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      Take it easy, Paul. "Time takes time." But it is good to hear from you again.

      Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        CPallini
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        Good to hear from you!

        "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

        In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          Cp Coder
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          It's so very nice to have you back! Welcome home! :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

          Ok, I have had my coffee, so you can all come out now!

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            RickZeeland
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            Good to hear from you again and best Christmas wishes to you!

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              0x01AA
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              Great to see you back

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                Mike Hankey
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                Welcome back, at your own pace.

                As the aircraft designer said, "Simplicate and add lightness". PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.0 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: SimpleWizardUpdate

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  That was a good re-entrance! :-D

                  Robust Services Core | Software Techniques for Lemmings | Articles
                  The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.

                  <p><a href="https://github.com/GregUtas/robust-services-core/blob/master/README.md">Robust Services Core</a>
                  <em>The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.</em></p>

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    StarNamer work
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                    Amused me too! :) Welcome back.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      Welcome, Paul. Sleep away, friend.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        theoldfool
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                        Ho, Ho, Ho. Happy whatever you celebrate.

                        >64 There is never enough time to do it right, but there is enough time to do it over.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                          Roger Wright
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                          Welcome back, and it's very good to see you!

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            Daniel Pfeffer
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                            It's good to see you back!

                            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                              It's good to see you back!

                              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                              trønderen
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                              Sidetracking - you trailer: Wouldn't real freedom be to say that two plus two make five? That would include a lot of religious freedom as well!

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                                Sidetracking - you trailer: Wouldn't real freedom be to say that two plus two make five? That would include a lot of religious freedom as well!

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                                Daniel Pfeffer
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                                You are assuming that there is no objective reality, and that therefore reality is whatever the Powers That Be claim that it is. You may recall that in George Orwell's Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Four, Winston Smith worked in the Ministry of Truth, whose only reason for existence was to "correct" data so that it appeared that the Party was always right.

                                Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  Well it amused me, anyway[^] Told you I'd be back, but I'll be doing it slowly - I have a backlog of several months worth of sleep to catch up on, and my concentration is a bit short as a result.

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                  Mircea Neacsu
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                                  Welcome back sir! Who said Christmas doesn’t bring good news to those deserving (and obviously CPians always deserve good news) 😀

                                  Mircea

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                                  • D Daniel Pfeffer

                                    You are assuming that there is no objective reality, and that therefore reality is whatever the Powers That Be claim that it is. You may recall that in George Orwell's Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Four, Winston Smith worked in the Ministry of Truth, whose only reason for existence was to "correct" data so that it appeared that the Party was always right.

                                    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                    trønderen
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                                    I am suggesting that a fair share of those who demand absolute religious freedom are demanding the freedom of irrationality. Two plus two make five is an explicit statement of irrationalism. Winston argued in favor of rational truth. So you can say he was strongly and expressively against any sort of irrational religious argumentation. ¨ By stating that freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two makes five, you tell that you are open to accept even irrational, religious claims. Maybe you personally do not subscribe to the idea that two plus two makes five, yet you support the right of religious people to hold their irrational beliefs - maybe not of the arithmetic kind, but in the same class of irrationality. Two plus two make five symbolizes the irrationality. If I state that I do respect your freedom to proclaim the irrationality of two plus two making five, it also says that I respect your freedom to make whatever irrational religious statement that you would like to make. (Obviously, I reserve the right to argue against the irrationalities, even though I grant you the right to declare them.)

                                    Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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                                      You are assuming that there is no objective reality, and that therefore reality is whatever the Powers That Be claim that it is. You may recall that in George Orwell's Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Four, Winston Smith worked in the Ministry of Truth, whose only reason for existence was to "correct" data so that it appeared that the Party was always right.

                                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                      honey the codewitch
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                                      I remember reading some Foucault and he said that knowledge is essentially a function of power, in that he seemed to be arguing that even our "science" is subject to the whims of human activity. I tend to agree. We all have to employ some amount of trust because we cannot hope to build up even empirical knowledge from scratch. We don't have the time in one lifetime. And it's that trust that can get us in trouble, as much as we need it. Even with science, Max Plank rightly lamented that it advances one funeral at a time. There is power and inertia at play, even in the sciences, where consensus - even incomplete or incorrect consensus all too often carries the day. I think what tronderen was speaking to was absence of coercion - in this case, being free to be wrong - negative liberty. Imagine if being wrong carried a state enforced penalty!

                                      Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                                        I am suggesting that a fair share of those who demand absolute religious freedom are demanding the freedom of irrationality. Two plus two make five is an explicit statement of irrationalism. Winston argued in favor of rational truth. So you can say he was strongly and expressively against any sort of irrational religious argumentation. ¨ By stating that freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two makes five, you tell that you are open to accept even irrational, religious claims. Maybe you personally do not subscribe to the idea that two plus two makes five, yet you support the right of religious people to hold their irrational beliefs - maybe not of the arithmetic kind, but in the same class of irrationality. Two plus two make five symbolizes the irrationality. If I state that I do respect your freedom to proclaim the irrationality of two plus two making five, it also says that I respect your freedom to make whatever irrational religious statement that you would like to make. (Obviously, I reserve the right to argue against the irrationalities, even though I grant you the right to declare them.)

                                        Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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                                        0x01AA
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                                        It's completely wrong to have this discussion here :wtf:

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                                        • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                          I remember reading some Foucault and he said that knowledge is essentially a function of power, in that he seemed to be arguing that even our "science" is subject to the whims of human activity. I tend to agree. We all have to employ some amount of trust because we cannot hope to build up even empirical knowledge from scratch. We don't have the time in one lifetime. And it's that trust that can get us in trouble, as much as we need it. Even with science, Max Plank rightly lamented that it advances one funeral at a time. There is power and inertia at play, even in the sciences, where consensus - even incomplete or incorrect consensus all too often carries the day. I think what tronderen was speaking to was absence of coercion - in this case, being free to be wrong - negative liberty. Imagine if being wrong carried a state enforced penalty!

                                          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                                          Daniel Pfeffer
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                                          "Two plus two equal five" carries a built-in penalty, in that none of your mathematics (or even your arithmetic) will be consistent. That differs from the state-enforced penalty of misbelieving the state religion. (Note that many states throughout time have tried to legislate that two plus two make five, or its equivalent. They have all been disabused in short order.)

                                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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