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how hard to rewrite a legacy software from C++ to C# in WinForm?

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  • S Southmountain

    I have a legacy software to draw very sophisticated charts. but I only need a small piece of these charts. I want to re-write the code charting this small piece of charts. How hard it is to do this? any experience to share?

    diligent hands rule....

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    Jo_vb net
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    Don't fear the reaper... ... just start re-writing the code. For smaller parts you can use https://www.codeconvert.ai/c++-to-csharp-converter[^] But you have to revise this converted code anyway.

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    • H honey the codewitch

      It varies widely depending on the project. For user interface stuff (at least assuming windows) if you were using like, MFC before, you're basically going to need to rewrite that part using the original code as a reference. For algorithmic stuff it depends. If you're doing pointer ops all over the place that will be difficult to port as you need to change it to indexing into arrays (typically). Otherwise, if you're using things like vector and map they have direct corollaries in C# so that kind of thing is easier. Just remember structs are on the stack and classes are on the heap in C#. That has a lot of different ramifications, such as changing how they are passed to functions (byval instead of byref). Be careful when porting that kind of thing from C++ which makes little distinction between classes and structs.

      Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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      Richard Andrew x64
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      Out of curiosity, is an enum a class or struct?

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        Out of curiosity, is an enum a class or struct?

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        honey the codewitch
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        In C and C++ it doesn't really matter. In fact it's compiled into constant nothings basically (removed). In C# it's a ValueType which makes it closer to a struct than a class in terms of how it behaves - stack vs heap, etc.

        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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        • S Southmountain

          I have a legacy software to draw very sophisticated charts. but I only need a small piece of these charts. I want to re-write the code charting this small piece of charts. How hard it is to do this? any experience to share?

          diligent hands rule....

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          RedDk
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          It's easy. Start a new project in the target language of your choice. Copy the bare minimum from the source language, paste it in the new language target husk, and attempt to compile. You'll get tons of errors and warnings. Pick through them and eliminate them one-by-one. Obviously there's a lot of personal experience in "attempting" to do anything using a compiler and a linker. Done this, have I. Learned much have I.

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            It's easy. Start a new project in the target language of your choice. Copy the bare minimum from the source language, paste it in the new language target husk, and attempt to compile. You'll get tons of errors and warnings. Pick through them and eliminate them one-by-one. Obviously there's a lot of personal experience in "attempting" to do anything using a compiler and a linker. Done this, have I. Learned much have I.

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            RedDk wrote:

            You'll get tons of errors and warnings. Pick through them an eliminate them one-by-one.

            It's hard to tell if that's sage advice or sarcasm.

            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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            • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

              RedDk wrote:

              You'll get tons of errors and warnings. Pick through them an eliminate them one-by-one.

              It's hard to tell if that's sage advice or sarcasm.

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              It sounds like the advice to start with a block of stone and remove the parts which don't look like an elephant.

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              • K Kenneth Haugland

                MFC to WPF or what? I did some conversions from C++ to C# for a complex math problem. That was pretty straight-forward since the finished C# code was not that different from C++ once you got into it.

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                Southmountain
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                WinForm in my mind.

                diligent hands rule....

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                  Don't fear the reaper... ... just start re-writing the code. For smaller parts you can use https://www.codeconvert.ai/c++-to-csharp-converter[^] But you have to revise this converted code anyway.

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                  :rose::rose::rose:

                  diligent hands rule....

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                    In C and C++ it doesn't really matter. In fact it's compiled into constant nothings basically (removed). In C# it's a ValueType which makes it closer to a struct than a class in terms of how it behaves - stack vs heap, etc.

                    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                    :thumbsup:

                    diligent hands rule....

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                    • R RedDk

                      It's easy. Start a new project in the target language of your choice. Copy the bare minimum from the source language, paste it in the new language target husk, and attempt to compile. You'll get tons of errors and warnings. Pick through them and eliminate them one-by-one. Obviously there's a lot of personal experience in "attempting" to do anything using a compiler and a linker. Done this, have I. Learned much have I.

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                      This is exactly how I converted about 10,000 lines of VB6 code to VB 2005. The biggest changes were file handling and error reporting. To this day I'll occasionally use On Error Resume Next in short Subs and Functions when it's appropriate. Otherwise I use Try/Catch/Finally.

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                        This is exactly how I converted about 10,000 lines of VB6 code to VB 2005. The biggest changes were file handling and error reporting. To this day I'll occasionally use On Error Resume Next in short Subs and Functions when it's appropriate. Otherwise I use Try/Catch/Finally.

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                        That's it exactly. Initially posting line-numbered QBASIC code into a C++ project ... I was surprised how little squawking the VS interface returned. I like that "On Error Resume" trick. Next time ...

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                          This is exactly how I converted about 10,000 lines of VB6 code to VB 2005. The biggest changes were file handling and error reporting. To this day I'll occasionally use On Error Resume Next in short Subs and Functions when it's appropriate. Otherwise I use Try/Catch/Finally.

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                          obermd wrote:

                          To this day I'll occasionally use On Error Resume Next

                          as long as you put something in between... :rolleyes: ;P :laugh:

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                          • S Southmountain

                            I have a legacy software to draw very sophisticated charts. but I only need a small piece of these charts. I want to re-write the code charting this small piece of charts. How hard it is to do this? any experience to share?

                            diligent hands rule....

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                            Amarnath S
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                            Outsource to someone here (me?).

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                            • S Southmountain

                              I have a legacy software to draw very sophisticated charts. but I only need a small piece of these charts. I want to re-write the code charting this small piece of charts. How hard it is to do this? any experience to share?

                              diligent hands rule....

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                              Bruno van Dooren
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                              Does it 'need' to be C#? Or can you use C++/CLI? Because the latter would be much simpler, in the sense that you can keep your algorithms and the back end stuff in C++, and do the user interface in C++/CLI. Is your user interface in MFC, or WTL or something else? The user interface would have to be re-built from scratch

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                              • S Southmountain

                                I have a legacy software to draw very sophisticated charts. but I only need a small piece of these charts. I want to re-write the code charting this small piece of charts. How hard it is to do this? any experience to share?

                                diligent hands rule....

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                                Gary R Wheeler
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                                You're going to have to rewrite UI code regardless. The one advantage going to WinForms would be correspondence in the UI. WinForms is something of a wrapper around Windows GDI controls for C#, in the same sense that MFC is a wrapper for C++.

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                • S Southmountain

                                  I have a legacy software to draw very sophisticated charts. but I only need a small piece of these charts. I want to re-write the code charting this small piece of charts. How hard it is to do this? any experience to share?

                                  diligent hands rule....

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                                  MSBassSinger
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                                  In my experience of rewriting from one language into C#, there are a few principles I applied that helped me. 1 - Understand the requirements, architecture, and intent of the original code (which may have to be determined with only the original code at hand). 2 - Understand WHAT the original code is doing. 3 - In the new language (e.g. C#), determine how it best does what the original code did. Just translating code from original to new is a trap. 4 - What does the new language offer (including third party components if you want) that would be useful, that was not used for the original app with the original language? 5 - What new language architecture gives you the lowest total SDLC cost with the best acceptable performance, scalability, and support? Apply these principles and you will avoid a myriad of booby-traps and sloughs of despond.

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                                  • S Southmountain

                                    I have a legacy software to draw very sophisticated charts. but I only need a small piece of these charts. I want to re-write the code charting this small piece of charts. How hard it is to do this? any experience to share?

                                    diligent hands rule....

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                                    Behzad Sedighzadeh
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                                    Isn't it better to use an existing product? Have you looked at ScottPlot ?

                                    Behzad

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                                    • S Southmountain

                                      I have a legacy software to draw very sophisticated charts. but I only need a small piece of these charts. I want to re-write the code charting this small piece of charts. How hard it is to do this? any experience to share?

                                      diligent hands rule....

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                                      obeobe
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                                      I bet ChatGPT can do it.

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                                      • S Southmountain

                                        I have a legacy software to draw very sophisticated charts. but I only need a small piece of these charts. I want to re-write the code charting this small piece of charts. How hard it is to do this? any experience to share?

                                        diligent hands rule....

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                                        Thornik
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                                        Nothing hard. After C++ you'll write C# code like a song.

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                                        • R RedDk

                                          It's easy. Start a new project in the target language of your choice. Copy the bare minimum from the source language, paste it in the new language target husk, and attempt to compile. You'll get tons of errors and warnings. Pick through them and eliminate them one-by-one. Obviously there's a lot of personal experience in "attempting" to do anything using a compiler and a linker. Done this, have I. Learned much have I.

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                                          jschell
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                                          At least to me the OP suggested that they want to use WinForms and that existing code does not use that. So that is a complete rewrite at least for that part.

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