I have a new feature I want in Teams/Zoom/WebEx
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I want the ability to change the volume for specific people. not mute them per se. but to change their volume coming thru. I just had a meeting where one person had a very high voice that was quite loud and another person had a low voice that was quite soft. I really wanted to turn ones volume down and ones up.
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You need the "Reach out and slap someone" feature! :)
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I want the ability to change the volume for specific people. not mute them per se. but to change their volume coming thru. I just had a meeting where one person had a very high voice that was quite loud and another person had a low voice that was quite soft. I really wanted to turn ones volume down and ones up.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
I installed the local version of Teams a couple of months ago and so far, haven't figure out how to get to do anything other than advise me that I must run the web version. :| The individual volume control thing sounds like a good idea. I can mute mine, why can't I mute theirs? :laugh:
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I want the ability to change the volume for specific people. not mute them per se. but to change their volume coming thru. I just had a meeting where one person had a very high voice that was quite loud and another person had a low voice that was quite soft. I really wanted to turn ones volume down and ones up.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
Technically, it is easy to understand why you can't: You receive a single, mixed sound stream. For you to adjust the volume of each individual speaker, you would have to receive each speaker an individual sound stream, and mix them in your PC. I have been in web meetings with way above a hundred participants, almost all of them passively listening/watching, but they could all unmute themselves. Meetings with 30-50 participants is quite common. These systems are not designed for distributing 30-50, or 100+, sound channels to every participant. It would probably be resource consuming: If 100 participants should receive the sound from the 99 others as individual channels, the central switch would have to manage 9,900 sound channels. An alternative implementation: You receive a single sound channel, but it is adapted to your preferences. You can send commands to the central switch for it to reduce the volume of a single participant in the mix you receive. That would require the central switch to manage 100 mixers of 100 inputs each (for a 100 participant meeting). I guess that would be even more resource demanding on the central switch. So I doubt very much that your request will be honored in the next software update.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I want the ability to change the volume for specific people. not mute them per se. but to change their volume coming thru. I just had a meeting where one person had a very high voice that was quite loud and another person had a low voice that was quite soft. I really wanted to turn ones volume down and ones up.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
I want to be able to have voices be changed to whatever celebrity voice I choose. Further, I want the speech idioms to be updated to match a character from a movie. My next Zoom call will be full Pulp Fiction.
cheers Chris Maunder
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Technically, it is easy to understand why you can't: You receive a single, mixed sound stream. For you to adjust the volume of each individual speaker, you would have to receive each speaker an individual sound stream, and mix them in your PC. I have been in web meetings with way above a hundred participants, almost all of them passively listening/watching, but they could all unmute themselves. Meetings with 30-50 participants is quite common. These systems are not designed for distributing 30-50, or 100+, sound channels to every participant. It would probably be resource consuming: If 100 participants should receive the sound from the 99 others as individual channels, the central switch would have to manage 9,900 sound channels. An alternative implementation: You receive a single sound channel, but it is adapted to your preferences. You can send commands to the central switch for it to reduce the volume of a single participant in the mix you receive. That would require the central switch to manage 100 mixers of 100 inputs each (for a 100 participant meeting). I guess that would be even more resource demanding on the central switch. So I doubt very much that your request will be honored in the next software update.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
Would it be possible for the client side software to demultiplex the incoming sound based on loudness, pitch, tone, frequency, etc., and attenuate/enhance the loudness of the one selected by user? Looks like it will then need a new UI showing the list of demultiplexed sounds, as it will not perhaps be able to correlate speaker A video with speaker A audio.
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I want the ability to change the volume for specific people. not mute them per se. but to change their volume coming thru. I just had a meeting where one person had a very high voice that was quite loud and another person had a low voice that was quite soft. I really wanted to turn ones volume down and ones up.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
You need to add compression, like my hearing aids:
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Wide dynamic range compression will squish or “compress” this range so that the quietest sounds can be heard louder and that the loudest sounds will not be overly loud. In this way, it improves the wearer’s dynamic range and they would be able to hear sounds they weren’t hearing before. It also leads to a more comfortable listening experience since it will keep all the sounds in a range that is easy to listen to and not too soft and not too loud.
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Technically, it is easy to understand why you can't: You receive a single, mixed sound stream. For you to adjust the volume of each individual speaker, you would have to receive each speaker an individual sound stream, and mix them in your PC. I have been in web meetings with way above a hundred participants, almost all of them passively listening/watching, but they could all unmute themselves. Meetings with 30-50 participants is quite common. These systems are not designed for distributing 30-50, or 100+, sound channels to every participant. It would probably be resource consuming: If 100 participants should receive the sound from the 99 others as individual channels, the central switch would have to manage 9,900 sound channels. An alternative implementation: You receive a single sound channel, but it is adapted to your preferences. You can send commands to the central switch for it to reduce the volume of a single participant in the mix you receive. That would require the central switch to manage 100 mixers of 100 inputs each (for a 100 participant meeting). I guess that would be even more resource demanding on the central switch. So I doubt very much that your request will be honored in the next software update.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
But that assumes mixing at the recipient end. Somewhere in the middle is where the mixing of all audio "senders" occurs. Why not allow unique, by recipient IP say, mixing. That would then only require sending unique audio, already mixed as per each recipient's needs, which really is what's happening anyways but of course currently without the custom mixing by the middle layer.)
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I want the ability to change the volume for specific people. not mute them per se. but to change their volume coming thru. I just had a meeting where one person had a very high voice that was quite loud and another person had a low voice that was quite soft. I really wanted to turn ones volume down and ones up.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Technically, it is easy to understand why you can't: You receive a single, mixed sound stream. For you to adjust the volume of each individual speaker, you would have to receive each speaker an individual sound stream, and mix them in your PC. I have been in web meetings with way above a hundred participants, almost all of them passively listening/watching, but they could all unmute themselves. Meetings with 30-50 participants is quite common. These systems are not designed for distributing 30-50, or 100+, sound channels to every participant. It would probably be resource consuming: If 100 participants should receive the sound from the 99 others as individual channels, the central switch would have to manage 9,900 sound channels. An alternative implementation: You receive a single sound channel, but it is adapted to your preferences. You can send commands to the central switch for it to reduce the volume of a single participant in the mix you receive. That would require the central switch to manage 100 mixers of 100 inputs each (for a 100 participant meeting). I guess that would be even more resource demanding on the central switch. So I doubt very much that your request will be honored in the next software update.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
Interesting analysis. I have been in meetings where the speaker had a very low volume and everyone noticed it. Presumably the same causes might impact it being too loud. Usual attempted solution for them at that point is to disconnect and reconnect. Perhaps then rather than an adjustment on the receivers end add an adjustment on the senders end.
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rnbergren wrote:
I just had a meeting where one person had a very high voice
I had that same problem but it was at a restaurant with someone sitting at another table. Would the feature work there also?
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Technically, it is easy to understand why you can't: You receive a single, mixed sound stream. For you to adjust the volume of each individual speaker, you would have to receive each speaker an individual sound stream, and mix them in your PC. I have been in web meetings with way above a hundred participants, almost all of them passively listening/watching, but they could all unmute themselves. Meetings with 30-50 participants is quite common. These systems are not designed for distributing 30-50, or 100+, sound channels to every participant. It would probably be resource consuming: If 100 participants should receive the sound from the 99 others as individual channels, the central switch would have to manage 9,900 sound channels. An alternative implementation: You receive a single sound channel, but it is adapted to your preferences. You can send commands to the central switch for it to reduce the volume of a single participant in the mix you receive. That would require the central switch to manage 100 mixers of 100 inputs each (for a 100 participant meeting). I guess that would be even more resource demanding on the central switch. So I doubt very much that your request will be honored in the next software update.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I want to be able to have voices be changed to whatever celebrity voice I choose. Further, I want the speech idioms to be updated to match a character from a movie. My next Zoom call will be full Pulp Fiction.
cheers Chris Maunder
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Technically, it is easy to understand why you can't: You receive a single, mixed sound stream. For you to adjust the volume of each individual speaker, you would have to receive each speaker an individual sound stream, and mix them in your PC. I have been in web meetings with way above a hundred participants, almost all of them passively listening/watching, but they could all unmute themselves. Meetings with 30-50 participants is quite common. These systems are not designed for distributing 30-50, or 100+, sound channels to every participant. It would probably be resource consuming: If 100 participants should receive the sound from the 99 others as individual channels, the central switch would have to manage 9,900 sound channels. An alternative implementation: You receive a single sound channel, but it is adapted to your preferences. You can send commands to the central switch for it to reduce the volume of a single participant in the mix you receive. That would require the central switch to manage 100 mixers of 100 inputs each (for a 100 participant meeting). I guess that would be even more resource demanding on the central switch. So I doubt very much that your request will be honored in the next software update.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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But that assumes mixing at the recipient end. Somewhere in the middle is where the mixing of all audio "senders" occurs. Why not allow unique, by recipient IP say, mixing. That would then only require sending unique audio, already mixed as per each recipient's needs, which really is what's happening anyways but of course currently without the custom mixing by the middle layer.)
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I want the ability to change the volume for specific people. not mute them per se. but to change their volume coming thru. I just had a meeting where one person had a very high voice that was quite loud and another person had a low voice that was quite soft. I really wanted to turn ones volume down and ones up.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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rnbergren wrote:
I just had a meeting where one person had a very high voice
I had that same problem but it was at a restaurant with someone sitting at another table. Would the feature work there also?
Or the other way around: Many years ago, I read a story in Reader's Digest. Inbetween the main stories, they have columns with jokes, brief notes from university life, from family life etc. I usually read RD in Norwegian, and right now I do no not remember the English title of the 'family life' column, where I read a story that I remember something like this: When our family goes out for a meal, we use to make guesses about the professions of the other guests - 'He looks like a carpenter', or 'She must be a hairdresser'. Most places are quite noisy, and we speak softly so noone can hear our guesses. Usually, we come to some agreement, but once we had wildly differing opinions about one guy at the opposite side of the room: I thought he might be a carpet seller, while my son thought he looked like a radio engineer. When the guy rose to leave, he made his way past our table, making a brief stop to tell us: 'What I am really doing is to teach deaf kids lip reading'.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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That is the option where, for a 100-participant meeting, the central switch must maintain one hundred 100-input mixers. I do not think that is technically viable.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
So how / where are all the audio streams mixed together now?
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I want to be able to have voices be changed to whatever celebrity voice I choose. Further, I want the speech idioms to be updated to match a character from a movie. My next Zoom call will be full Pulp Fiction.
cheers Chris Maunder
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