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  • D David ONeil

    In addition to what others have said, my last laptop battery ballooned up. If you let it go too long it can hurt internal components in the laptop - even possibly puncturing itself and potentially exploding, or at least causing a lot of smoke and excitement. Worth it to get it replaced.

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    even possibly puncturing itself and potentially exploding, or at least causing a lot of smoke and excitement

    Cool, Huh, Huh, Cool<>, I have made the request officially for a new laptop, which means after much prodding I might get a replacement battery!

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      Hi All, Not really being a big laptop person, I am seeing with my work Lappy the battery is good for around 10 minutes from a full charge it drops extremely fast, I am talking 93% to 15% in the space of 10 minutes while not being used! (Outlook open, Teams open, Chrome & possibly Edge open) the thing is you need to plug it in to get any useful work done, I have got on to our IT dept about it ('Well run BatteryReport and get back to us'). Battery report shows the battery falls off a cliff. So are 'modern' laptops really bad at power management or does the OS (11 ver?) run really badly from a power point of view. Back in the day Laptops would last and last (I remember the first laptop I dealt with an Amstrad PPC512 used it on site for four day didn't need to charge it!) rant over Glenn

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      Lithium batteries don't last forever: and how you charge them makes a big difference. If you habitually leave them charging to "full" that can drastically shorten their life - charge to only 85% of capacity and they last a lot longer! (My phone has a optional software cutoff at 85% to do just that for me.) Have a look here: BU-808: How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University[^] and get a new battery!

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Lithium batteries don't last forever: and how you charge them makes a big difference. If you habitually leave them charging to "full" that can drastically shorten their life - charge to only 85% of capacity and they last a lot longer! (My phone has a optional software cutoff at 85% to do just that for me.) Have a look here: BU-808: How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University[^] and get a new battery!

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        My Lenovo laptop has similar functionality... I stop charging at 80% and restart at 15%...

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Lithium batteries don't last forever: and how you charge them makes a big difference. If you habitually leave them charging to "full" that can drastically shorten their life - charge to only 85% of capacity and they last a lot longer! (My phone has a optional software cutoff at 85% to do just that for me.) Have a look here: BU-808: How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University[^] and get a new battery!

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          I don't want a laptop I want a desk top, more power to upgrade for specific roles extra serial ports etc. parallel port even graphics card updates. The main thing it plugs into the wall. I think since Covid everyone has been about the mobile work space. It is now seen as hip and trendy, but my desk disappears under wires connecting everything. Worst thing was I got this Lappy after three people had had it so I really had no chance of battery extending yoga.

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            I don't want a laptop I want a desk top, more power to upgrade for specific roles extra serial ports etc. parallel port even graphics card updates. The main thing it plugs into the wall. I think since Covid everyone has been about the mobile work space. It is now seen as hip and trendy, but my desk disappears under wires connecting everything. Worst thing was I got this Lappy after three people had had it so I really had no chance of battery extending yoga.

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            When we were reviewing new laptops for the dev team, our CTO said that he wanted light laptops for when going through airports. I looked at him and asked why. I said that I've been on 3 business trips in 10 years of employment here. I don't care about airports, I want performance. In addition, many of us could use a workout. The airport argument seems to be the most American thing I've ever heard. We want bigger everything until we have to carry it.

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              Hi All, Not really being a big laptop person, I am seeing with my work Lappy the battery is good for around 10 minutes from a full charge it drops extremely fast, I am talking 93% to 15% in the space of 10 minutes while not being used! (Outlook open, Teams open, Chrome & possibly Edge open) the thing is you need to plug it in to get any useful work done, I have got on to our IT dept about it ('Well run BatteryReport and get back to us'). Battery report shows the battery falls off a cliff. So are 'modern' laptops really bad at power management or does the OS (11 ver?) run really badly from a power point of view. Back in the day Laptops would last and last (I remember the first laptop I dealt with an Amstrad PPC512 used it on site for four day didn't need to charge it!) rant over Glenn

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              I have laptops with old batteries that do exactly what you're describing. Batteries only last so many years, after that, they can hardly keep a charge. There's no solution to that but to replace it. I don't think you mentioned how old your battery is...?

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                When we were reviewing new laptops for the dev team, our CTO said that he wanted light laptops for when going through airports. I looked at him and asked why. I said that I've been on 3 business trips in 10 years of employment here. I don't care about airports, I want performance. In addition, many of us could use a workout. The airport argument seems to be the most American thing I've ever heard. We want bigger everything until we have to carry it.

                Hogan

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                So the CTO really meant because it would be too 'heavy'? Rather than perhaps bulky? Or some idea about weirdness with airports? If so how odd.

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                  Hi All, Not really being a big laptop person, I am seeing with my work Lappy the battery is good for around 10 minutes from a full charge it drops extremely fast, I am talking 93% to 15% in the space of 10 minutes while not being used! (Outlook open, Teams open, Chrome & possibly Edge open) the thing is you need to plug it in to get any useful work done, I have got on to our IT dept about it ('Well run BatteryReport and get back to us'). Battery report shows the battery falls off a cliff. So are 'modern' laptops really bad at power management or does the OS (11 ver?) run really badly from a power point of view. Back in the day Laptops would last and last (I remember the first laptop I dealt with an Amstrad PPC512 used it on site for four day didn't need to charge it!) rant over Glenn

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                  Your battery is defective. Good idea to replace it before it catches fire.

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                  • M Mircea Neacsu

                    Your battery is toast. All laptops I’ve seen recently run at least 2-3 hours of serious work. Mine runs a good 4 hours with mix of VisualStudio, VMware, browsing, OneDrive sync, etc.

                    Mircea

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                    Mine runs for 20 minutes off a brand new 100Wh battery, while gaming. It's an I9/4090m

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                    • S snorkie

                      When we were reviewing new laptops for the dev team, our CTO said that he wanted light laptops for when going through airports. I looked at him and asked why. I said that I've been on 3 business trips in 10 years of employment here. I don't care about airports, I want performance. In addition, many of us could use a workout. The airport argument seems to be the most American thing I've ever heard. We want bigger everything until we have to carry it.

                      Hogan

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                      Before covid everyone wanted a laptop so they could 'work from home' and management wanted people in the office (so they could ensure they were working). Covid meant people had to work from home (and did work) now you have to make a case for not having a lappy. I remember my Covid employer saying 'no laptops with out a reason, no VPNs' Covid have a Laptop we don't have a VPN... I ended up using my home PC to remote into my desktop PC at work (VPNs no we don't need them, oh we have been hacked but...).

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                      • D dandy72

                        I have laptops with old batteries that do exactly what you're describing. Batteries only last so many years, after that, they can hardly keep a charge. There's no solution to that but to replace it. I don't think you mentioned how old your battery is...?

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                        The entire laptop is 18 months old (warranty?)

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          Your battery is defective. Good idea to replace it before it catches fire.

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                          <> Fire, fire, huh, huh <> :-D

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            Your battery is defective. Good idea to replace it before it catches fire.

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                            Oooh I know I'm guessing the TP1408 on the battery charger board has popped (common) and it's the sort of thing I enjoy fixing.

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                              When we were reviewing new laptops for the dev team, our CTO said that he wanted light laptops for when going through airports. I looked at him and asked why. I said that I've been on 3 business trips in 10 years of employment here. I don't care about airports, I want performance. In addition, many of us could use a workout. The airport argument seems to be the most American thing I've ever heard. We want bigger everything until we have to carry it.

                              Hogan

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                              honey the codewitch
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                              I have a large lenovo laptop with an i9. I bought it because I needed a secondary portable desktop. I'd never use the thing for work while traveling. It's too bulky, and the battery life stinks. I'd probably gone for a Thinkpad slim of some sort. Lighter, smaller, better battery life.

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                                Mine runs for 20 minutes off a brand new 100Wh battery, while gaming. It's an I9/4090m

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                                honey the codewitch wrote:

                                while gaming

                                ... you see? There's your problem! :laugh: Surely you can use your lappy for ironing or space heating :laugh:

                                Mircea

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                                  When we were reviewing new laptops for the dev team, our CTO said that he wanted light laptops for when going through airports. I looked at him and asked why. I said that I've been on 3 business trips in 10 years of employment here. I don't care about airports, I want performance. In addition, many of us could use a workout. The airport argument seems to be the most American thing I've ever heard. We want bigger everything until we have to carry it.

                                  Hogan

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                                  Mircea Neacsu
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                                  I've been a road warrior for many years and that argument carries a lot of weight with me. Pun accidental.

                                  Mircea

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                                  • M Mircea Neacsu

                                    honey the codewitch wrote:

                                    while gaming

                                    ... you see? There's your problem! :laugh: Surely you can use your lappy for ironing or space heating :laugh:

                                    Mircea

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                                    Mircea Neacsu wrote:

                                    use your lappy for ironing or space heating

                                    Space heating definitely. My i9 is so warm I'm surprised my cat doesn't sleep on it. Ironing not so much - today's laptops are simply too light to make a good iron (or boat anchor). ;P

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                                      The entire laptop is 18 months old (warranty?)

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                                      Then I wouldn't describe that as "normal" after just 18 months. But then, good luck making that argument with the manufacturer. On the other hand, you're right, it might be covered by the warranty. Assuming it covers the first 18 months. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the warranty it came with was barely 12 months.

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                                        So the CTO really meant because it would be too 'heavy'? Rather than perhaps bulky? Or some idea about weirdness with airports? If so how odd.

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                                        yep, he was serious.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          Lithium batteries don't last forever: and how you charge them makes a big difference. If you habitually leave them charging to "full" that can drastically shorten their life - charge to only 85% of capacity and they last a lot longer! (My phone has a optional software cutoff at 85% to do just that for me.) Have a look here: BU-808: How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University[^] and get a new battery!

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                                          glennPattonWork3
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                                          Hmmm, interesting link, Do you remember the Amstrad PPC512 & PPC640 'laptops' I am sure I charged one in the early 80's and it's still going!

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