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  • R raddevus

    But I definitely don’t want You prob don’t either the thing no one will say about Apple Vision Pro - YouTube[^] The tail wags the dog again!

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    rjmoses
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    There were science fiction stories written about this technology 50-60 years ago. They did not end well for the human race! The more technology advances, the more I feel like a Luddite!

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    • R raddevus

      But I definitely don’t want You prob don’t either the thing no one will say about Apple Vision Pro - YouTube[^] The tail wags the dog again!

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      Cpichols
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      I see zero peripheral vision, and a likely tendency to disregard others. This is dangerous - no situational awareness, and narcissistic-behavior-inducing - nobody matters but me. No thank you.

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      • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

        Is this what it's coming too? Star Trek Next Generation - The Game - YouTube[^]

        "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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        raddevus
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        I remember that episode and think of it often too. Sometimes it feels like it really is like that.

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          I see zero peripheral vision, and a likely tendency to disregard others. This is dangerous - no situational awareness, and narcissistic-behavior-inducing - nobody matters but me. No thank you.

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          raddevus
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          Cpichols wrote:

          I see zero peripheral vision, and a likely tendency to disregard others

          That's the part that really got me. As if people don't already ignore each other enough already. I'm sure pick-pockets & other con artists will be quite happy when everyone is distracted with these in public.

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          • R raddevus

            I remember that episode and think of it often too. Sometimes it feels like it really is like that.

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            Mike Hankey
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            I watched it yesterday, again, hadn't seen it in a while and IMO it's the best episode.

            "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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            • C Cpichols

              I see zero peripheral vision, and a likely tendency to disregard others. This is dangerous - no situational awareness, and narcissistic-behavior-inducing - nobody matters but me. No thank you.

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              Rich Shealer
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              It will suck not being able to see peoples eyes. It's bad enough that I often only see the tops of peoples heads as the stare at their phones.

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                I see zero peripheral vision, and a likely tendency to disregard others. This is dangerous - no situational awareness, and narcissistic-behavior-inducing - nobody matters but me. No thank you.

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                David Crow
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                Cpichols wrote:

                This is dangerous - no situational awareness, and narcissistic-behavior-inducing - nobody matters but me.

                Kind of like what is already been happening, only worse.

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                • R raddevus

                  But I definitely don’t want You prob don’t either the thing no one will say about Apple Vision Pro - YouTube[^] The tail wags the dog again!

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                  dandy72
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                  raddevus wrote:

                  the thing no one none of the fanbois will say about Apple Vision Pro

                  I haven't watched the video, but I suspect my FTFY is accurate, and everybody else is already saying it (whatever "it" is)... How far off the target am I?

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                    raddevus wrote:

                    the thing no one none of the fanbois will say about Apple Vision Pro

                    I haven't watched the video, but I suspect my FTFY is accurate, and everybody else is already saying it (whatever "it" is)... How far off the target am I?

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                    raddevus
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                    Video summary: A very famous youtuber walks through New York city while wearing the Apple Vision Pro. You really have to watch, because it basically simulates people who are out of their mind and hallucinating another world. But, of course, since you'll be paying someone for this and the video is basically a commercial, the youtuber says it is the greatest thing ever and everyone will have one in the future. X|

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                    • R raddevus

                      But I definitely don’t want You prob don’t either the thing no one will say about Apple Vision Pro - YouTube[^] The tail wags the dog again!

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                      jochance
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                      Using Apple VP while driving cybertruck

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                      • R rjmoses

                        There were science fiction stories written about this technology 50-60 years ago. They did not end well for the human race! The more technology advances, the more I feel like a Luddite!

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                        jochance
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                        I feel that. But I do kid myself that it's nothing at all like grandparents not wanting to learn email.

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                        • R raddevus

                          But I definitely don’t want You prob don’t either the thing no one will say about Apple Vision Pro - YouTube[^] The tail wags the dog again!

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                          I can see marketing claims and fanboy stuff. Some of things that are not mentioned. Vision Pro has a 2.5 hour battery. With a cell/mobile when you stop using it it goes in the pocket or purse. Claims that it will get smaller, but the tech is now effectively 10 years old and it is still almost the same size. I wear glasses all the time and I really do not like it. Even more so as I get older. With glasses rain, snow, cold are certainly a problem. You want to stop in the park for a pick up game (basket ball, frisbee, whatever) are you going to leave a $3000 small transportable piece of equipment on the edge of the field? I have damaged/broken glasses in a variety of ways. I have seen other people manage to destroy a cell/mobile on average of once a year. So replacing that is going to be expensive. Making real entertainment content in 3D is more expensive than other content. But the general consumer does not have an uptick in disposal income to match the production cost. So either they do not buy it at all or they buy fewer titles. I believe the 'not buying it at all' is what most of the market sees now. For business users waving ones hands in the air all day (versus a keyboard) just does not work. They have already tried solutions like that and no one uses it.

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                            I can see marketing claims and fanboy stuff. Some of things that are not mentioned. Vision Pro has a 2.5 hour battery. With a cell/mobile when you stop using it it goes in the pocket or purse. Claims that it will get smaller, but the tech is now effectively 10 years old and it is still almost the same size. I wear glasses all the time and I really do not like it. Even more so as I get older. With glasses rain, snow, cold are certainly a problem. You want to stop in the park for a pick up game (basket ball, frisbee, whatever) are you going to leave a $3000 small transportable piece of equipment on the edge of the field? I have damaged/broken glasses in a variety of ways. I have seen other people manage to destroy a cell/mobile on average of once a year. So replacing that is going to be expensive. Making real entertainment content in 3D is more expensive than other content. But the general consumer does not have an uptick in disposal income to match the production cost. So either they do not buy it at all or they buy fewer titles. I believe the 'not buying it at all' is what most of the market sees now. For business users waving ones hands in the air all day (versus a keyboard) just does not work. They have already tried solutions like that and no one uses it.

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                            rjmoses
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                            Ford F150 pickups have a "feature" that, if you're backing up and there's something behind you, it will stop the truck. Sounds reasonable, doesn't it? However, the other day, I had road salt build up on the backup camera and it wouldn't let me back up because it couldn't "see". No matter how smart AI becomes, it will never be as adaptable situationally as the human brain.

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                            • R raddevus

                              But I definitely don’t want You prob don’t either the thing no one will say about Apple Vision Pro - YouTube[^] The tail wags the dog again!

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                              sasadler
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                              Very expensive, heavy and doesn't do anything that I need. I like seeing the real world.

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                              • J jochance

                                Using Apple VP while driving cybertruck

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                                raddevus
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                                That. Is. SOOOOOO. Messed. UP!!!! X|

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                                • J jschell

                                  I can see marketing claims and fanboy stuff. Some of things that are not mentioned. Vision Pro has a 2.5 hour battery. With a cell/mobile when you stop using it it goes in the pocket or purse. Claims that it will get smaller, but the tech is now effectively 10 years old and it is still almost the same size. I wear glasses all the time and I really do not like it. Even more so as I get older. With glasses rain, snow, cold are certainly a problem. You want to stop in the park for a pick up game (basket ball, frisbee, whatever) are you going to leave a $3000 small transportable piece of equipment on the edge of the field? I have damaged/broken glasses in a variety of ways. I have seen other people manage to destroy a cell/mobile on average of once a year. So replacing that is going to be expensive. Making real entertainment content in 3D is more expensive than other content. But the general consumer does not have an uptick in disposal income to match the production cost. So either they do not buy it at all or they buy fewer titles. I believe the 'not buying it at all' is what most of the market sees now. For business users waving ones hands in the air all day (versus a keyboard) just does not work. They have already tried solutions like that and no one uses it.

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                                  raddevus
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                                  Those are all great points! Thanks for sharing. You've given me hope that these will not take off. :-D

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                                    Ford F150 pickups have a "feature" that, if you're backing up and there's something behind you, it will stop the truck. Sounds reasonable, doesn't it? However, the other day, I had road salt build up on the backup camera and it wouldn't let me back up because it couldn't "see". No matter how smart AI becomes, it will never be as adaptable situationally as the human brain.

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                                    JudyL_MD
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                                    Check your truck's settings. My Dodge Durango has something similar but I can explicitly turn off the "backup protection" feature; the off only lasts until the engine is turned off. Since I use it to haul a horse trailer, I need to be able to turn that "help" off when I'm backing up to hook up the trailer :laugh:

                                    Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss. Lazarus Long, "Time Enough For Love" by Robert A. Heinlein

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                                    • pkfoxP pkfox

                                      Why one earth would anyone want this ?

                                      In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                      charlieg
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                                      well, I have qc15 noise cancelling headphones, but I only wear them at home

                                      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                      • J jochance

                                        Using Apple VP while driving cybertruck

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                                        Amarnath S
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                                        One incorrect gesture, and he'll be out of the road, and possibly ... out of this world, too.

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                                          One incorrect gesture, and he'll be out of the road, and possibly ... out of this world, too.

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                                          jochance
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                                          Wait, he's saying they can fly now, too?!

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