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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Is zero positive?

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      Dat's de bunny! :thumbsup: Surprising how many people think -2 is bigger than -1. :-D

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      Brisingr Aerowing
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      Also what I got, mostly as I've had to solve this puzzle in multiple math classes, and was usually the only person to get it right (sadly).

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        CPallini
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        10. Or, possibly, 42.

        "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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          Is zero positive?

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          Jeremy Falcon
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          From a comp sci and data representation perspective, yes. Not sure about the math perspective.

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            10. Or, possibly, 42.

            "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            It's always 42; we just didn't invent the math yet to get us there.

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              From a comp sci and data representation perspective, yes. Not sure about the math perspective.

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              From a math perspective, zero is neither positive nor negative: Negative number - Wikipedia[^]

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                Is zero positive?

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                OriginalGriff
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                From a math perspective, zero is neither positive nor negative: Negative number - Wikipedia[^]

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  It's always 42; we just didn't invent the math yet to get us there.

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  We did: fractional bases[^] - but it makes my head hurt trying to think of them ... :-D

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                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    Is zero positive?

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                    It can be positive, negative or unsigned depending on the representation and how it is used. Fnu

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      honey the codewitch
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                      at what bit depth? ;P

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                        at what bit depth? ;P

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        Start with two bit signed numbers and work your way up from there ... :-D That always made me laugh - back in the day when CD players were the Bee's Knees they proudly announced the kit contained a "1 bit DA converter" on the adverts (and the player, normally).

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                          Is zero positive?

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                          1 - (-1) = 1+1 = 2

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                            What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                            Isn't it just 2? I mean the smallest positive int is 1. The largest negative int is -1. (-1 is bigger than -2) so it's just 1 - (-1) which is 2.

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                              What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                              The question is ambiguous in terms of what "largest negative" means. In a strict mathematical sense, that number is -1. But in an natural language sense, "largest negative" would mean "most negative". For example, when my bank account hits $-500, I owe a larger amount than when its only $-10!

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                                What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                This is why I hated math word problems. To me, the "largest negative integer" is -infinity because, for example, -3 is "larger" than -2 on the "negative" scale. "Largeness" to me is ambiguous. But my brain works in weird ways when it comes to converting words into math expressions.

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                                  The question is ambiguous in terms of what "largest negative" means. In a strict mathematical sense, that number is -1. But in an natural language sense, "largest negative" would mean "most negative". For example, when my bank account hits $-500, I owe a larger amount than when its only $-10!

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                                  Yes, you owe a larger amount - which means you have a lower bank balance!

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                    The question is ambiguous in terms of what "largest negative" means. In a strict mathematical sense, that number is -1. But in an natural language sense, "largest negative" would mean "most negative". For example, when my bank account hits $-500, I owe a larger amount than when its only $-10!

                                    "A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants" Chuckles the clown

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                                    jschell
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                                    k5054 wrote:

                                    question is ambiguous in terms

                                    I agree. It needs better term definitions to provide a correct answer. But I can see that some of the answers above taking it to mean the question is phrased to taken as a trick question and so rather simple.

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                                      So which is bigger: -1 or -2?

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                                      Rich Leyshon
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                                      This was the first question that crossed my mind. According to the interweb, it's the size of the absolute value. Maybe it really depends on what the numbers are representing. On a graph, (-2,-2) is a greater distance from the origin than (-1,-1). I would rather reverse my car into a lamp post at -1mph than -20! Of course, doing it the other way round could be a good way out of a speeding fine. If I state I was clocking my speed in a backwards direction then my forward speed would be negative and the further I went above the speed limit, the smaller my speed would be. "Take him down ..."

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                                        The question is ambiguous in terms of what "largest negative" means. In a strict mathematical sense, that number is -1. But in an natural language sense, "largest negative" would mean "most negative". For example, when my bank account hits $-500, I owe a larger amount than when its only $-10!

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                                        I think for a programming forum the question is appropriately precise/clearly worded ;) Shame on me, my brain also focused on -Infinity for the largest negative number :-O :laugh:

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                                          What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?

                                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                          BobbyStrain
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                                          That would be 0.

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