A gentle puzzle I was just asked.
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Oh? Is -2 bigger than -1 now? :-D
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"Bigger"? Yes.
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Start with two bit signed numbers and work your way up from there ... :-D That always made me laugh - back in the day when CD players were the Bee's Knees they proudly announced the kit contained a "1 bit DA converter" on the adverts (and the player, normally).
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OriginalGriff wrote:
when CD players were the Bee's Knees
Ooohhh... and 4X oversampling?
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The question is ambiguous in terms of what "largest negative" means. In a strict mathematical sense, that number is -1. But in an natural language sense, "largest negative" would mean "most negative". For example, when my bank account hits $-500, I owe a larger amount than when its only $-10!
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k5054 wrote:
The question is ambiguous in terms
I agree. It lacks rigor. It ought to use the correct mathematical term -- "GREATER THAN".
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What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?
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Smallest positive integer = 1 Largest negative integer = -1 Difference is 2.
I agree with you. Here's what chatGPT 3.5 says:
ChatGPT:
There isn't a smallest positive integer or largest negative integer in the mathematical sense, as integers extend infinitely in both positive and negative directions. The set of integers includes all whole numbers, both positive and negative, and extends infinitely in both directions. If you're asking about the difference between the smallest positive integer (1) and the largest negative integer (which doesn't exist), it's not a well-defined mathematical operation. The concept of the "largest negative integer" doesn't have a meaningful value in standard arithmetic. If you have a specific range or context in mind, please provide more details so I can assist you better.
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1 - (-1) = 1+1 = 2
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
Yours is the answer I liked best. Look at what chatGPT 3.5 says:
ChatGPT:
There isn't a smallest positive integer or largest negative integer in the mathematical sense, as integers extend infinitely in both positive and negative directions. The set of integers includes all whole numbers, both positive and negative, and extends infinitely in both directions. If you're asking about the difference between the smallest positive integer (1) and the largest negative integer (which doesn't exist), it's not a well-defined mathematical operation. The concept of the "largest negative integer" doesn't have a meaningful value in standard arithmetic. If you have a specific range or context in mind, please provide more details so I can assist you better.
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Yours is the answer I liked best. Look at what chatGPT 3.5 says:
ChatGPT:
There isn't a smallest positive integer or largest negative integer in the mathematical sense, as integers extend infinitely in both positive and negative directions. The set of integers includes all whole numbers, both positive and negative, and extends infinitely in both directions. If you're asking about the difference between the smallest positive integer (1) and the largest negative integer (which doesn't exist), it's not a well-defined mathematical operation. The concept of the "largest negative integer" doesn't have a meaningful value in standard arithmetic. If you have a specific range or context in mind, please provide more details so I can assist you better.
The largest negative integer is the negative integer that is greater than all other negative integers. hence -1. Hopefully this isn't devolving into a political conversation.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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The largest negative integer is the negative integer that is greater than all other negative integers. hence -1. Hopefully this isn't devolving into a political conversation.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
MarkTJohnson wrote:
The largest negative integer is the negative integer that is greater than all other negative integers.
I thought the same thing. Also, isn't it interesting that on the other side of 0 that no one had a problem distinguishing the smallest positive integer : which is 1. Aren't all numbers greater than others when the are further to the right of other numbers? Also, do these people not believe that following are true? -5000 < -1 -1 > -5000 Then why don't they know that the largest negative integer is -1?
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Which one is true? 1. -Infinity > -1 2. -1 > -Infinity JavaScript says that the first is false and second is true -- see snapshot[^]. Pretty sure that JS has the definitive answer, since it's the Best Programming Language ever! :rolleyes: Sorry, just trolling all programming nerds. :laugh: But seriously, don't you think that is right?
Number.NEGATIVE_INFINITY > -1 // false
Number.NEGATIVE_INFINITY < -1 // true// a little clearer about my meaning
-1 > Number.NEGATIVE_INFINITY // TRUESo largest negative integer = -1 :)
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The largest negative integer is the negative integer that is greater than all other negative integers. hence -1. Hopefully this isn't devolving into a political conversation.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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So which is bigger: -1 or -2?
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What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?
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OriginalGriff wrote:
What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?
Yeah, I resorted to asking a child. The smallest positive integer is 1. I can cope with that. The largest negative integer is infinite. She said infinite negative +1. I am still looking for a way to refute that.
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What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Smallest positive integer = 1 Largest negative integer = -1 Difference is 2.
Largest negative. I had not noticed that. Reading correctly is half the battle. :thumbsup: Well done :suss:
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1 is smallest positive integer -infinity is largest negative integer 1 - (-infinity) is 1 + infinity is infinity oops my coffee cup is overflowing
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I fell for the same. -1 is larger than -10. The largest negative integer is -1. Infinity isn't in this game. Made me feel stupid and I loved it :thumbsup:
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I fell for the same. -1 is larger than -10. The largest negative integer is -1. Infinity isn't in this game. Made me feel stupid and I loved it :thumbsup:
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All depends on one's definition of largest negative integer. The largest integer that is negative or the largest negative integer compared to all negative integers. The problem as stated is missing this clarity.
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This was my answer as well. Both the smallest positive and largest negative integers are 0. But I can see the case for both 2 and Infinity. Brent Hoskisson
Brent
Mathematically, zero is neither positive or negative ... :-D
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Oh? Is -2 bigger than -1 now? :-D
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For sure: if I have -$2, I owe the bank more than if I had -$1. $2 is a larger number, indicating a larger debt.
------------------------------------------------ If you say that getting the money is the most important thing You will spend your life completely wasting your time You will be doing things you don't like doing In order to go on living That is, to go on doing things you don't like doing Which is stupid. - Alan Watts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gXTZM\_uPMY
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What is the smallest positive integer minus the largest negative integer?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
Silly me was thinking in Int32.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Check this out. It's JavaScript but...
Number.MIN_VALUE < -1 // true
Number.NEGATIVE_INFINITY > -1 // false
// a little clearer
-1 > Number.NEGATIVE_INFINITY // TRUESo the largest negative integer is -1. :thumbsup:
I think it's a bad mistake to assume that a computer implementation of a mathematical concept provides a correct definition, especially at the limits. But I agree that mathematically -1 is larger than -2. It's the distance from the extreme left of the number line (-infinity) that illustrates this. And zero is neutral, neither positive nor negative. And we're relying on ChatGPT for truth now? Lord help us!
