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Are there any VMs that aren't absolutely terrible?

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  • T theoldfool

    Never seen such and have been using Workstation since version 4 and ESXi since version 5. I have run Workstation on Windows, OSX (Fusion), and Linux hosts. I always run on mainstream systems with Intel processors. Mostly Dell servers or Precision workstations. We have hosted 4 and 5 Windows server systems, including Domain Controller and Exchange Server (ugh) on ESXi for some 15 or so years. Have we had some problems? Of course, most self inflicted. I would look to your hardware. VMware posts supported CPU's and system brand/models. If you want specific help, the VMware forums are a good source. If you just want to rant, this is as good a place as any. :)

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    honey the codewitch
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    I don't know if it's entirely VM Ware's doing. It happens when a terminal is open in X, and I hit backspace too many times. It freaks the hell out. I haven't investigated fully because the constant beeping is maddening, and having to reboot or maybe at least sign out to stop it is no fun. Did it twice. Then I uninstalled VM ware and deleted my VMs. I finally got WSL talking to my SD card properly, albeit indirectly, and via some hand holding via a C# winforms application someone wrote that I use on the windows side. It's a Rube Goldberg contraption, for sure, but it works.

    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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    • H honey the codewitch

      WSL will not mount an ext4 SD card. It can mount ext4 hard drives. Not flash drives. Because MS sucks. but VMWare causes the most obnoxious repeating beep sound, gets itself locked up, locks the mouse cursor inside its window, and keeps beeping even after I kill the task, forcing me to reboot. VirtualBox will not share the clipboard from host->device, will not mount my remote filesystem, and will not function as though it was written by competent people. Surely there's a market out there for VM software that isn't awful. Am I the only one that wants a functioning VM out there?

      Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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      DerekT P
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      Many years ago I had a reasonably fully functional VirtualBox setup, but that was on XP. Since then I've tried multiple VMs and never succeeded in anything vaguely useable; mostly can't even manage to install a guest system! Probably don't have the incentive to put in the apparently massive effort required to do so. It shouldn't be this way.

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      • D DerekT P

        Many years ago I had a reasonably fully functional VirtualBox setup, but that was on XP. Since then I've tried multiple VMs and never succeeded in anything vaguely useable; mostly can't even manage to install a guest system! Probably don't have the incentive to put in the apparently massive effort required to do so. It shouldn't be this way.

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        honey the codewitch
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        I finally got WSL to do what I needed it to. It's very roundabout but once it's setup it's smooth enough

        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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          WSL will not mount an ext4 SD card. It can mount ext4 hard drives. Not flash drives. Because MS sucks. but VMWare causes the most obnoxious repeating beep sound, gets itself locked up, locks the mouse cursor inside its window, and keeps beeping even after I kill the task, forcing me to reboot. VirtualBox will not share the clipboard from host->device, will not mount my remote filesystem, and will not function as though it was written by competent people. Surely there's a market out there for VM software that isn't awful. Am I the only one that wants a functioning VM out there?

          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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          Jacquers
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          What are OS are you trying to run and what are you trying to achieve?

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          • J Jacquers

            What are OS are you trying to run and what are you trying to achieve?

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            honey the codewitch
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            I was trying to simply run linux from windows. The goal was simple. I wanted a VM I could keep running that I could A) easily transfer files from the host machine. preferably one click or so B) easily transfer the files from the VM to an ext4 formatted SD card. It was a joke. I finally got WSL to do it but it's very roundabout.

            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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            • H honey the codewitch

              I was trying to simply run linux from windows. The goal was simple. I wanted a VM I could keep running that I could A) easily transfer files from the host machine. preferably one click or so B) easily transfer the files from the VM to an ext4 formatted SD card. It was a joke. I finally got WSL to do it but it's very roundabout.

              Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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              Jacquers
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              It's been a while since I used it, but VirtualBox has some shared folder functionality which works well enough. Sounds like your issue is the ext4 drive - I replied to your thread above :)

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                It's been a while since I used it, but VirtualBox has some shared folder functionality which works well enough. Sounds like your issue is the ext4 drive - I replied to your thread above :)

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                honey the codewitch
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                Yeah, and it would be fantastic if virtual box actually worked as advertised. It never has for me, on any machine I've ever used it on. That's why the only reason I tried it this time was because VM Ware was actually crashing my system.

                Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                • D David Luca

                  I haven't seen any response mentioning but you need to install VM->VMWare Tools for integrating the guest with the host operating system, then you can move the mouse between the two windows like one of the replies mentions, also allows sharing a folder between the two. Similar in VirtualBox, I think it's called VirtualBox Additions, it mounts as an ISO.

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  Sadly, installing the host tools does nothing to prevent VMWare from crashing my system. I know, right?

                  Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                  • H honey the codewitch

                    WSL will not mount an ext4 SD card. It can mount ext4 hard drives. Not flash drives. Because MS sucks. but VMWare causes the most obnoxious repeating beep sound, gets itself locked up, locks the mouse cursor inside its window, and keeps beeping even after I kill the task, forcing me to reboot. VirtualBox will not share the clipboard from host->device, will not mount my remote filesystem, and will not function as though it was written by competent people. Surely there's a market out there for VM software that isn't awful. Am I the only one that wants a functioning VM out there?

                    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                    David Luca
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                    I haven't seen any response mentioning but you need to install VM->VMWare Tools for integrating the guest with the host operating system, then you can move the mouse between the two windows like one of the replies mentions, also allows sharing a folder between the two. Similar in VirtualBox, I think it's called VirtualBox Additions, it mounts as an ISO.

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                    • N Nelek

                      honey the codewitch wrote:

                      VMWare causes the most obnoxious repeating beep sound, gets itself locked up, locks the mouse cursor inside its window, and keeps beeping even after I kill the task, forcing me to reboot.

                      Never had these issues with VMWare. The mouse lock is only if you use it in full screen, if you use it within its windows frame then you can move the mouse whereever you want. You are within the frame, ALT+Tab changes apps in the guest OS, you move the mouse to the frame and press ALT+TAB, then the app change is on the host OS getting the VM in the background. There is a key combination too, for going back to the host... but I do not remember which one, since I use it always in window frame and do not need it. When I have the VM maximized, I have the Taskbar of my Windows 10 host, and then next by the taskbar of my guest OS. You have as bit less surface pixels available in the guest OS, but it works fine.

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      Agreed, VMWare all the way

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                      • H honey the codewitch

                        WSL will not mount an ext4 SD card. It can mount ext4 hard drives. Not flash drives. Because MS sucks. but VMWare causes the most obnoxious repeating beep sound, gets itself locked up, locks the mouse cursor inside its window, and keeps beeping even after I kill the task, forcing me to reboot. VirtualBox will not share the clipboard from host->device, will not mount my remote filesystem, and will not function as though it was written by competent people. Surely there's a market out there for VM software that isn't awful. Am I the only one that wants a functioning VM out there?

                        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                        sasadler
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                        I have a good one if your running your VM under Linux. I run MX Linux as my main OS and have a Win 11 VM (with GPU passthrough) to play games that won't work under Linux, TurboTax and Affinity Photo. All the rest of my computing is done in Linux. I went the KVM/QEMU libvirt route since it's supposedly the quickest VM (don't know if that's really true) and it allows GPU passthrough with the appropriate motherboards. I've been using it for over a year now with no real issues. It's probably more complex to setup but it seems to work just fine.

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                          I have a good one if your running your VM under Linux. I run MX Linux as my main OS and have a Win 11 VM (with GPU passthrough) to play games that won't work under Linux, TurboTax and Affinity Photo. All the rest of my computing is done in Linux. I went the KVM/QEMU libvirt route since it's supposedly the quickest VM (don't know if that's really true) and it allows GPU passthrough with the appropriate motherboards. I've been using it for over a year now with no real issues. It's probably more complex to setup but it seems to work just fine.

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          I should have specified win11 If I was on Linux I'd have probably tried QEMU since I already use it for ARM Cortex emulation

                          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                            WSL will not mount an ext4 SD card. It can mount ext4 hard drives. Not flash drives. Because MS sucks. but VMWare causes the most obnoxious repeating beep sound, gets itself locked up, locks the mouse cursor inside its window, and keeps beeping even after I kill the task, forcing me to reboot. VirtualBox will not share the clipboard from host->device, will not mount my remote filesystem, and will not function as though it was written by competent people. Surely there's a market out there for VM software that isn't awful. Am I the only one that wants a functioning VM out there?

                            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                            Lost User
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                            They're only terrible when they don't work. I found VMBox less terrible than Hyper-V, when Hyper-V didn't work and it did.

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                              WSL will not mount an ext4 SD card. It can mount ext4 hard drives. Not flash drives. Because MS sucks. but VMWare causes the most obnoxious repeating beep sound, gets itself locked up, locks the mouse cursor inside its window, and keeps beeping even after I kill the task, forcing me to reboot. VirtualBox will not share the clipboard from host->device, will not mount my remote filesystem, and will not function as though it was written by competent people. Surely there's a market out there for VM software that isn't awful. Am I the only one that wants a functioning VM out there?

                              Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                              stheller2
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                              Hyper-V is mostly okay. The only problem I've had recently is that enhanced session mode stopped working on Ubuntu VMs. I think that was caused by a Windows update but I'm not sure.

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                                Hyper-V is mostly okay. The only problem I've had recently is that enhanced session mode stopped working on Ubuntu VMs. I think that was caused by a Windows update but I'm not sure.

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                I got WSL doing what I need it to, despite it fighting me. I had to recompile the kernel, and mortgage my soul to make it go, but it's limping along with the help of a bag-on-the-side C# app on the windows side, exposing my SD card as an iSCSI block device over TCP. Hell, it lets me use lsblk and things with it now so I can't complain. :laugh:

                                Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                                  WSL will not mount an ext4 SD card. It can mount ext4 hard drives. Not flash drives. Because MS sucks. but VMWare causes the most obnoxious repeating beep sound, gets itself locked up, locks the mouse cursor inside its window, and keeps beeping even after I kill the task, forcing me to reboot. VirtualBox will not share the clipboard from host->device, will not mount my remote filesystem, and will not function as though it was written by competent people. Surely there's a market out there for VM software that isn't awful. Am I the only one that wants a functioning VM out there?

                                  Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                                  jochance
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                                  Apparently VMWare saw your post and decided that their product is worth way way more.

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