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  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

    How many people actually continue working when Visual Studio says, "You can continue working while the designer is loading in the background?" I know I don't. I'm in the zone, coding marvelous features, and then suddenly it comes to a screeching halt. I can't continue working because the designer is not loaded yet. Geez. :rolleyes:

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    HobbyProggy
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    Well, so far i just accepted that in 90% of cases the designer will die. So i code a bit more, wait for the confirmation it died and the restart visual studio or rebuild in hope to fix the designer.

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    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

      How many people actually continue working when Visual Studio says, "You can continue working while the designer is loading in the background?" I know I don't. I'm in the zone, coding marvelous features, and then suddenly it comes to a screeching halt. I can't continue working because the designer is not loaded yet. Geez. :rolleyes:

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      Lost User
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      The message actually means that you have time to go outside and sweep the back yard. :laugh:

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        How many people actually continue working when Visual Studio says, "You can continue working while the designer is loading in the background?" I know I don't. I'm in the zone, coding marvelous features, and then suddenly it comes to a screeching halt. I can't continue working because the designer is not loaded yet. Geez. :rolleyes:

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        dandy72
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        Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

        "You can continue working while the designer is loading in the background?"

        Knowing MS, I always read that as "you *can*, but probably *shouldn't*". Pet peeve: When VS crashes, and the next time you restart, it prompts you whether you want to reload a given set of files from Folder A, or its backup from Folder B. And you have no idea how they differ. If there's a screen that needs a Diffs view, it's that one.

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          How many people actually continue working when Visual Studio says, "You can continue working while the designer is loading in the background?" I know I don't. I'm in the zone, coding marvelous features, and then suddenly it comes to a screeching halt. I can't continue working because the designer is not loaded yet. Geez. :rolleyes:

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          I've never used the WPF Designer, and I've been developing for WPF since Visual Studio 2008. They're slow, buggy, and add arbitrary Margin and Padding values to everything. In my experience, the only way to get a nicely flowing UI is to use hand-crafted XAML.

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          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

            How many people actually continue working when Visual Studio says, "You can continue working while the designer is loading in the background?" I know I don't. I'm in the zone, coding marvelous features, and then suddenly it comes to a screeching halt. I can't continue working because the designer is not loaded yet. Geez. :rolleyes:

            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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            Stepan Hakobyan
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            I always wait. I think it started to show up when they introduced out-of-process designer in VS for WinForms.

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            • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

              How many people actually continue working when Visual Studio says, "You can continue working while the designer is loading in the background?" I know I don't. I'm in the zone, coding marvelous features, and then suddenly it comes to a screeching halt. I can't continue working because the designer is not loaded yet. Geez. :rolleyes:

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              MSBassSinger
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              Which designer? Windows Forms or XAML? I have not had a problem continuing my work on the rare occasions I get a message like that in WinForms. I don't use the XAML designer, since it does support Xamarin, MAUI, WinUI, etc.

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              • G Gary R Wheeler

                I've never used the WPF Designer, and I've been developing for WPF since Visual Studio 2008. They're slow, buggy, and add arbitrary Margin and Padding values to everything. In my experience, the only way to get a nicely flowing UI is to use hand-crafted XAML.

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                tbim
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                I second this. Compare a before and after of the XAML if you use the designer to change anything. The change usually generates a crap-ton of XAML - or did several years ago, the last time I tried to use it. I do everything in XAML manually within the actual XAML.

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                • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                  How many people actually continue working when Visual Studio says, "You can continue working while the designer is loading in the background?" I know I don't. I'm in the zone, coding marvelous features, and then suddenly it comes to a screeching halt. I can't continue working because the designer is not loaded yet. Geez. :rolleyes:

                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                  charlieg
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                  vs2022 is irritating the heck out of me. Why is VSCode so liked - simplicity. VS2022 has so many dang options, features, etc it's ridiculous. The default installation should have 10% of what they are showing. Under file: 19 options Edit: 23 View: 33 etc. Even help is out of control. I watched a few tutorials on Resharper and said no way...

                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                    OK :laugh: Yes I think VS 2015 was before they instituted the out of process designer.

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                    Peter Adam
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                    This article has few words about the out-of-process designer and compatibility: [WinForms in a 64-Bit world - our strategy going forward - .NET Blog](https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/winforms-designer-64-bit-path-forward/)

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                    • P Peter Adam

                      This article has few words about the out-of-process designer and compatibility: [WinForms in a 64-Bit world - our strategy going forward - .NET Blog](https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/winforms-designer-64-bit-path-forward/)

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                      Richard Andrew x64
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                      Thanks for the article. I did happen to read that article when trying to research a problem that I'm having with the out-of-process designer!

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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