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  • G glennPattonWork3

    You are assuming IT is worth more than Vis Studio is a "secuirty risk as you can generate executables from it" (I quote) this generated two responses from me Learn the value of spell check, It doesn't generate executables it generates MSIL code which is run by the .NET frame work. :sigh:

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    Lost User
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    glennPattonWork3 wrote:

    It doesn't generate executables it generates MSIL code

    No, it does neither of those things. Visual Studio is an Interactive Development Environment, and as such just manages your projects. All code generation, whether machine or MSIL, is done by the compilers. And straight C/C++ code does not generate MSIL.

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    • C CPallini

      I am a great fan of Notepad++. It is my favorite editor on Windows. Tell the IT folks you like the thrill of danger.

      "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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      TNCaver
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      In my experience IT-Sec doesn't have a sense of humor.

      There are no solutions, only trade-offs.
         - Thomas Sowell

      A day can really slip by when you're deliberately avoiding what you're supposed to do.
         - Calvin (Bill Watterson, Calvin & Hobbes)

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      • G glennPattonWork3

        Hi All, I have a question, as I have used Notepad++ for years. I was told it would be on my current employers list of approved software. Probe further to find out why, turns out its 'Freeware' and as such is insecure. Is this alarmist I haven't heard of any issues, the only thing is our PC are so nailed shut you have to get IT every time it updates...:~ Glenn

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        honey the codewitch
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        Notepad++ was effectively obsoleted by VS Code anyway.

        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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        • G glennPattonWork3

          Hi All, I have a question, as I have used Notepad++ for years. I was told it would be on my current employers list of approved software. Probe further to find out why, turns out its 'Freeware' and as such is insecure. Is this alarmist I haven't heard of any issues, the only thing is our PC are so nailed shut you have to get IT every time it updates...:~ Glenn

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          jochance
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          I don't think it's acceptable to lock developer PCs down. It's arguably more important than doing it for everyone else since many developers will probably have more access to more things. I can get that. It's just that it just doesn't work and can't really. It could be good if you want a place to put your feet up, instead of "it's compiling" being the mantra for screwing around, it just becomes "waiting on security hand holding". Typical corporo-idiocy. I'd imagine you can get someone who knows something about anything to "unban" notepad++. Alternatively, anon email them a link to your glassdoor review where you outline their draconian lunacy of disallowing notepad++ installations.

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          • G glennPattonWork3

            Hi All, I have a question, as I have used Notepad++ for years. I was told it would be on my current employers list of approved software. Probe further to find out why, turns out its 'Freeware' and as such is insecure. Is this alarmist I haven't heard of any issues, the only thing is our PC are so nailed shut you have to get IT every time it updates...:~ Glenn

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            Amarnath S
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            For medical application software, there is [SOUP](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software\_of\_unknown\_pedigree) The IT department will then be more concerned about the development process of that software, than other aspects.

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              I am a great fan of Notepad++. It is my favorite editor on Windows. Tell the IT folks you like the thrill of danger.

              "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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              Andre Oosthuizen
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              Give this man a BELLS :thumbsup:

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              • M Mircea Neacsu

                Notepad++ is NOT freeware; it is open-source. Your IT people can download the source code[^] and inspect it for any security issues it may have. They are also welcome to fix those. There is a dramatic difference between "freeware" and "open source". Not knowing that, shows some limitations in one's level of expertise (to put it mildly).

                Mircea

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                Andre Oosthuizen
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                Quote:

                They are also welcome to fix those.

                :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: And they will start where?, probably with you to figure out the why, when, what, how...

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                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                  Ron Anders wrote:

                  Why MS hasn't doen more to notepad is beyond me.

                  They're busy working on the next version of Clippy. :) /ravi

                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  Andre Oosthuizen
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                  AI Clippy - Aippy

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                  • M Mircea Neacsu

                    Luckily, I never had to deal myself with IT people. Was always something along the lines of "if you touch this laptop, I'm walking out that door". :laugh:

                    Mircea

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                    Daniel Pfeffer
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                    That doesn't work very well in a Multinational.

                    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                    • D Daniel Pfeffer

                      That doesn't work very well in a Multinational.

                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                      Mircea Neacsu
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                      There are some perks to being a star programmer in a little shop :laugh:

                      Mircea

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                      • A Amarnath S

                        For medical application software, there is [SOUP](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software\_of\_unknown\_pedigree) The IT department will then be more concerned about the development process of that software, than other aspects.

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                        Daniel Pfeffer
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                        Amarnath S wrote:

                        For medical application software, there is SOUP

                        Shouldn't that be chicken soup? :) (The Jewish cure-all...)

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        • A Amarnath S

                          For medical application software, there is [SOUP](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software\_of\_unknown\_pedigree) The IT department will then be more concerned about the development process of that software, than other aspects.

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                          glennPattonWork3
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                          I think its because they don't like walking upstairs (they have a nice air-conditioned office) to where the trolls work. We are Medical Adjacent so SOUP is known. Why in :bob:'s name do they use Python for some stuff... :wtf:

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            Notepad++ was effectively obsoleted by VS Code anyway.

                            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                            glennPattonWork3
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                            Really, VS Code seems more like an IDE than a general purpose editor...

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                            • C CPallini

                              Because they do provide Wordpad! (I'll take my coat)

                              "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                              Jalapeno Bob
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                              X| X| X| YUCK!!!!!! X| X| X|

                              __________________ Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now. © 2009, Rex Hammock

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                              • G glennPattonWork3

                                Really, VS Code seems more like an IDE than a general purpose editor...

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                                honey the codewitch
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                                It's an editor. There are just plugins that can make it ide-ish Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                                • G glennPattonWork3

                                  Hi All, I have a question, as I have used Notepad++ for years. I was told it would be on my current employers list of approved software. Probe further to find out why, turns out its 'Freeware' and as such is insecure. Is this alarmist I haven't heard of any issues, the only thing is our PC are so nailed shut you have to get IT every time it updates...:~ Glenn

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                                  BernardIE5317
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                                  I am impressed w/ this fellow's work. I had utilized his text editor many years ago but am too tight fisted to purchase now. So I utilize NotePad++ and BowPad. Welcome to Just Great Software[^]

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                                  • R Ron Anders

                                    Why MS hasn't doen more to notepad is beyond me.

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                                    BryanFazekas
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                                    Notepad in Win11 has numerous upgrades. Personally, Win11's Notepad is second or third rate to NP++, so I still use NP++ as my primary. I'd like to get a version of Win10's Notepad for Win11 for the quick-n-dirty needs. I wanted to see Notepad updated ... but once I got it, I wanted it back the way it was. :laugh: UPDATE: The old version of Notepad is installed on Win11. This page has instructions for being able to use both the new and old versions. How to bring back the old classic Notepad in Windows 11[^]

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                                      glennPattonWork3 wrote:

                                      It doesn't generate executables it generates MSIL code

                                      No, it does neither of those things. Visual Studio is an Interactive Development Environment, and as such just manages your projects. All code generation, whether machine or MSIL, is done by the compilers. And straight C/C++ code does not generate MSIL.

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      Right, a plain vanilla Windows install with .net (since XP?) contains the compilers for C# and VB.net -- Visual Studio is not required. Anyone who knows how to write a bit of such code can produce a .net executable without installing anything else.

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                                        Right, a plain vanilla Windows install with .net (since XP?) contains the compilers for C# and VB.net -- Visual Studio is not required. Anyone who knows how to write a bit of such code can produce a .net executable without installing anything else.

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                                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                        contains the compilers for C# and VB.net

                                        Well, certainly not on either of our non-dev systems, that I can find. Where would you expect them to be installed?

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                                        • G glennPattonWork3

                                          You are assuming IT is worth more than Vis Studio is a "secuirty risk as you can generate executables from it" (I quote) this generated two responses from me Learn the value of spell check, It doesn't generate executables it generates MSIL code which is run by the .NET frame work. :sigh:

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          glennPattonWork3 wrote:

                                          can generate executables from it

                                          Alternatively, some enterprise whackos are pushing for Python because either: 0) Executables are dangerous and with Python you don't create an executable. or 1) A Python script is the executable, but it's easy to check that it hasn't been altered. In both cases, they like that the script gets deployed directly to the production servers without a build process -- no "executable" in the traditional sense, but it's still an executable. Any other "scripting language" would be the same (e.g. Perl). Of course, how do you know that the script wasn't altered along the way? Or that a bug wasn't "fixed" in production but not checked in? It's the same issue I have with SQL objects such as Procedures, Views, Functions, etc. -- do they really match what we have in version control? Have we checked? As a developer, I prefer traditional languages -- with compilers and "executables" -- when "security" is a factor.

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