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  • R raddevus

    For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):

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    There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Didn't see any mention of QNX (Unix-like) which is apparently still alive.

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      The only place I used UNIX was on a Telephone switch that I was writing Call center software for. I learned just enough to operate the switch because no one else in the company knew anything about it and didn't want to learn.

      "Ten men in the country could buy the world and ten million can’t buy enough to eat." Will Rogers PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.3.1 JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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      Very interesting story, thanks for sharing. :thumbsup:

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        Didn't see any mention of QNX (Unix-like) which is apparently still alive.

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        raddevus
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        Interesting...I looked up QNX on wikipedia -- that one falls into an odd place where it might meet requirements, but might not be exactly unix. I'm just wondering if any of the "original" unixes are out there running. Aren't there companies with "big metal" running still? i mean companies are still running COBOL and that flight system that is ancient so I thought maybe "real" unix might still be out there. ??? :)

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        • R raddevus

          For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):

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          There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.

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          honey the codewitch
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          While I don't use it myself, I am willing to bet it's fairly common in embedded dev just because virtually all the tools are unix-centric. Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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          • R raddevus

            Interesting...I looked up QNX on wikipedia -- that one falls into an odd place where it might meet requirements, but might not be exactly unix. I'm just wondering if any of the "original" unixes are out there running. Aren't there companies with "big metal" running still? i mean companies are still running COBOL and that flight system that is ancient so I thought maybe "real" unix might still be out there. ??? :)

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            I could install Tru-64 Unix on my Itanium server...

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            • H honey the codewitch

              While I don't use it myself, I am willing to bet it's fairly common in embedded dev just because virtually all the tools are unix-centric. Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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              raddevus
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              Yeah, I don't run unix either, but I bet someone does. :laugh: Check out my password manager at: C’YaPass: The Best Password Manager You’ve Never Used (A Complete Password EcoSystem)[^] I think we are both spamming each other now. :rolleyes:

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                I could install Tru-64 Unix on my Itanium server...

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                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                I could install Tru-64 Unix on my Itanium server

                Very cool, I hadn't heard of that one [^] before.

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                • R raddevus

                  Yeah, I don't run unix either, but I bet someone does. :laugh: Check out my password manager at: C’YaPass: The Best Password Manager You’ve Never Used (A Complete Password EcoSystem)[^] I think we are both spamming each other now. :rolleyes:

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  Sig used to be segregated below the message. I noticed the change earlier today. Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                  • H honey the codewitch

                    Sig used to be segregated below the message. I noticed the change earlier today. Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                    raddevus
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                    Yeah, I was just teasing. I'm not sure why the sig is like that. Other accounts are still showing their sig at the bottom. Ah, CP bugs, they are what keep the Team alive! :laugh:

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                    • R raddevus

                      Yeah, I was just teasing. I'm not sure why the sig is like that. Other accounts are still showing their sig at the bottom. Ah, CP bugs, they are what keep the Team alive! :laugh:

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                      Roger Wright
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                      raddevus wrote:

                      CP bugs, they are what keep the Team alive!

                      No, alfalfa pellets and an inverted water bottle on the wall of the server room do that. The bugs are just for entertainment.

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      • R raddevus

                        For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):

                        Quote:

                        There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        I've only ever seen one company use a Linux distro as a main install. But, I use WSL/Debian every single day at work and at home. I also use it on my web hosts and raspberry pis. I used to be a BSD buff (FreeBSD wut wut), but these days I'm exclusively in Linux (when compared to Unix). The only place I don't use it, is on a Mac because Darwin is BSD based and well, I don't need to. IMO since WSL came about, it's the best cross-platform OS period. I can make a utility that will run on just about anything using it.

                        raddevus wrote:

                        Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix?

                        Yes, MacOS runs on Darwin. You can run Darwin without the MacOS desktop. And Darwin is based on BSD. It's considered Unix (well Unix-like since the word "Unix" is trademarked).

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                        I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^]

                        The original BSD is dead, but its derivatives aren't: Darwin (MacOS), FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, etc.

                        Jeremy Falcon

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                          Didn't see any mention of QNX (Unix-like) which is apparently still alive.

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          I haven't heard anyone talk about QNX in forever! Kinda glad it's still around.

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                          • R raddevus

                            For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):

                            Quote:

                            There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.

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                            Do you classify Linux as Unix ?

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                              Do you classify Linux as Unix ?

                              In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                              pkfox wrote:

                              Do you classify Linux as Unix ?

                              Yeah, that really is the question isn't it. I really wasn't when i started the thread, but I mean according to the definition it probably is "unix" or at the very least it is for sure "unix-like". I myself run Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS and have been running Linux for about 5 years. I remote to win10 machines for work using Remmina (RDP software that is better than MS RDP). That was part of what I was wondering: Has Linux entirely taken over the Unix world. It seems like it has.

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                                pkfox wrote:

                                Do you classify Linux as Unix ?

                                Yeah, that really is the question isn't it. I really wasn't when i started the thread, but I mean according to the definition it probably is "unix" or at the very least it is for sure "unix-like". I myself run Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS and have been running Linux for about 5 years. I remote to win10 machines for work using Remmina (RDP software that is better than MS RDP). That was part of what I was wondering: Has Linux entirely taken over the Unix world. It seems like it has.

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                                raddevus wrote:

                                It seems like it has.

                                Only on the desktop (maybe). I wouldn't choose Unix for a desktop and I wouldn't choose Windows for a server.

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                                • R raddevus

                                  For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):

                                  Quote:

                                  There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  I just looked at a current job listing which requires: 5 years of UNIX I think they mean RedHat or Suse.

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                                  • R raddevus

                                    pkfox wrote:

                                    Do you classify Linux as Unix ?

                                    Yeah, that really is the question isn't it. I really wasn't when i started the thread, but I mean according to the definition it probably is "unix" or at the very least it is for sure "unix-like". I myself run Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS and have been running Linux for about 5 years. I remote to win10 machines for work using Remmina (RDP software that is better than MS RDP). That was part of what I was wondering: Has Linux entirely taken over the Unix world. It seems like it has.

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                                    My brother worked for one of the big mobile phone providers years ago who had been on Solaris for years and they decided to give Linux a try on a test rig, he was worried about his job as it never went wrong

                                    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                      I just looked at a current job listing which requires: 5 years of UNIX I think they mean RedHat or Suse.

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                                      I think if you know Unix you have very transferable skills to Linux

                                      In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                        I just looked at a current job listing which requires: 5 years of UNIX I think they mean RedHat or Suse.

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                                        raddevus
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                                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                        job listing which requires: 5 years of UNIX

                                        Yeah, I've noticed that people often mis-spell Linux as Unix. :rolleyes:

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                                          My brother worked for one of the big mobile phone providers years ago who had been on Solaris for years and they decided to give Linux a try on a test rig, he was worried about his job as it never went wrong

                                          In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                          Yeah, I worked at a large legal data company which ran a large number of SPARCstations - Wikipedia[^] which ran Unix back in 1998.

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