Is Anyone Using Unix?: My Findings
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For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):
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There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.
While I don't use it myself, I am willing to bet it's fairly common in embedded dev just because virtually all the tools are unix-centric. Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Interesting...I looked up QNX on wikipedia -- that one falls into an odd place where it might meet requirements, but might not be exactly unix. I'm just wondering if any of the "original" unixes are out there running. Aren't there companies with "big metal" running still? i mean companies are still running COBOL and that flight system that is ancient so I thought maybe "real" unix might still be out there. ??? :)
I could install Tru-64 Unix on my Itanium server...
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While I don't use it myself, I am willing to bet it's fairly common in embedded dev just because virtually all the tools are unix-centric. Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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I could install Tru-64 Unix on my Itanium server...
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Yeah, I don't run unix either, but I bet someone does. :laugh: Check out my password manager at: C’YaPass: The Best Password Manager You’ve Never Used (A Complete Password EcoSystem)[^] I think we are both spamming each other now. :rolleyes:
Sig used to be segregated below the message. I noticed the change earlier today. Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Sig used to be segregated below the message. I noticed the change earlier today. Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Yeah, I was just teasing. I'm not sure why the sig is like that. Other accounts are still showing their sig at the bottom. Ah, CP bugs, they are what keep the Team alive! :laugh:
raddevus wrote:
CP bugs, they are what keep the Team alive!
No, alfalfa pellets and an inverted water bottle on the wall of the server room do that. The bugs are just for entertainment.
Will Rogers never met me.
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For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):
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There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.
I've only ever seen one company use a Linux distro as a main install. But, I use WSL/Debian every single day at work and at home. I also use it on my web hosts and raspberry pis. I used to be a BSD buff (FreeBSD wut wut), but these days I'm exclusively in Linux (when compared to Unix). The only place I don't use it, is on a Mac because Darwin is BSD based and well, I don't need to. IMO since WSL came about, it's the best cross-platform OS period. I can make a utility that will run on just about anything using it.
raddevus wrote:
Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix?
Yes, MacOS runs on Darwin. You can run Darwin without the MacOS desktop. And Darwin is based on BSD. It's considered Unix (well Unix-like since the word "Unix" is trademarked).
raddevus wrote:
I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^]
The original BSD is dead, but its derivatives aren't: Darwin (MacOS), FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, etc.
Jeremy Falcon
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Didn't see any mention of QNX (Unix-like) which is apparently still alive.
I haven't heard anyone talk about QNX in forever! Kinda glad it's still around.
Jeremy Falcon
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For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):
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There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.
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Do you classify Linux as Unix ?
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
pkfox wrote:
Do you classify Linux as Unix ?
Yeah, that really is the question isn't it. I really wasn't when i started the thread, but I mean according to the definition it probably is "unix" or at the very least it is for sure "unix-like". I myself run Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS and have been running Linux for about 5 years. I remote to win10 machines for work using Remmina (RDP software that is better than MS RDP). That was part of what I was wondering: Has Linux entirely taken over the Unix world. It seems like it has.
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pkfox wrote:
Do you classify Linux as Unix ?
Yeah, that really is the question isn't it. I really wasn't when i started the thread, but I mean according to the definition it probably is "unix" or at the very least it is for sure "unix-like". I myself run Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS and have been running Linux for about 5 years. I remote to win10 machines for work using Remmina (RDP software that is better than MS RDP). That was part of what I was wondering: Has Linux entirely taken over the Unix world. It seems like it has.
raddevus wrote:
It seems like it has.
Only on the desktop (maybe). I wouldn't choose Unix for a desktop and I wouldn't choose Windows for a server.
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For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):
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There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.
I just looked at a current job listing which requires:
5 years of UNIXI think they mean RedHat or Suse. -
pkfox wrote:
Do you classify Linux as Unix ?
Yeah, that really is the question isn't it. I really wasn't when i started the thread, but I mean according to the definition it probably is "unix" or at the very least it is for sure "unix-like". I myself run Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS and have been running Linux for about 5 years. I remote to win10 machines for work using Remmina (RDP software that is better than MS RDP). That was part of what I was wondering: Has Linux entirely taken over the Unix world. It seems like it has.
My brother worked for one of the big mobile phone providers years ago who had been on Solaris for years and they decided to give Linux a try on a test rig, he was worried about his job as it never went wrong
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I just looked at a current job listing which requires:
5 years of UNIXI think they mean RedHat or Suse. -
I just looked at a current job listing which requires:
5 years of UNIXI think they mean RedHat or Suse. -
My brother worked for one of the big mobile phone providers years ago who had been on Solaris for years and they decided to give Linux a try on a test rig, he was worried about his job as it never went wrong
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
job listing which requires: 5 years of UNIX
Yeah, I've noticed that people often mis-spell Linux as Unix. :rolleyes:
"Any POSIX-compliant Operating System"
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For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):
Quote:
There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.
Might need to agree on what 'Unix' is. Not linux is one definition. But 'Unix' is trademarked by the 'Open Group' So presumably someone is enforcing that. Although https://unix.org doesn't seem to have security up. Following also mentions 'POSIX' in the section about standards. Unix - Wikipedia[^] Under the "Branding" section is says... "The Open Group's Single UNIX Specification should be able to bear the UNIX 98 or UNIX 03 trademarks today, after the operating system's vendor pays a substantial certification fee and annual trademark royalties" So that might discourage anyone from bothering.
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I haven't heard anyone talk about QNX in forever! Kinda glad it's still around.
Jeremy Falcon
QNX is the only "Unix" I've touched, and I had very little interaction with it. The company I was with in the 90s used it for a point-of-sale system, but I was working on the back office systems (in OpenVMS).
