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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    Didn't see any mention of QNX (Unix-like) which is apparently still alive.

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    I haven't heard anyone talk about QNX in forever! Kinda glad it's still around.

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      For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):

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      There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.

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      Do you classify Linux as Unix ?

      In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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        Do you classify Linux as Unix ?

        In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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        pkfox wrote:

        Do you classify Linux as Unix ?

        Yeah, that really is the question isn't it. I really wasn't when i started the thread, but I mean according to the definition it probably is "unix" or at the very least it is for sure "unix-like". I myself run Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS and have been running Linux for about 5 years. I remote to win10 machines for work using Remmina (RDP software that is better than MS RDP). That was part of what I was wondering: Has Linux entirely taken over the Unix world. It seems like it has.

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          pkfox wrote:

          Do you classify Linux as Unix ?

          Yeah, that really is the question isn't it. I really wasn't when i started the thread, but I mean according to the definition it probably is "unix" or at the very least it is for sure "unix-like". I myself run Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS and have been running Linux for about 5 years. I remote to win10 machines for work using Remmina (RDP software that is better than MS RDP). That was part of what I was wondering: Has Linux entirely taken over the Unix world. It seems like it has.

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          raddevus wrote:

          It seems like it has.

          Only on the desktop (maybe). I wouldn't choose Unix for a desktop and I wouldn't choose Windows for a server.

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          • R raddevus

            For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):

            Quote:

            There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.

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            I just looked at a current job listing which requires: 5 years of UNIX I think they mean RedHat or Suse.

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              pkfox wrote:

              Do you classify Linux as Unix ?

              Yeah, that really is the question isn't it. I really wasn't when i started the thread, but I mean according to the definition it probably is "unix" or at the very least it is for sure "unix-like". I myself run Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS and have been running Linux for about 5 years. I remote to win10 machines for work using Remmina (RDP software that is better than MS RDP). That was part of what I was wondering: Has Linux entirely taken over the Unix world. It seems like it has.

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              My brother worked for one of the big mobile phone providers years ago who had been on Solaris for years and they decided to give Linux a try on a test rig, he was worried about his job as it never went wrong

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                I just looked at a current job listing which requires: 5 years of UNIX I think they mean RedHat or Suse.

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                I think if you know Unix you have very transferable skills to Linux

                In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  I just looked at a current job listing which requires: 5 years of UNIX I think they mean RedHat or Suse.

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                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  job listing which requires: 5 years of UNIX

                  Yeah, I've noticed that people often mis-spell Linux as Unix. :rolleyes:

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                    My brother worked for one of the big mobile phone providers years ago who had been on Solaris for years and they decided to give Linux a try on a test rig, he was worried about his job as it never went wrong

                    In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                    Yeah, I worked at a large legal data company which ran a large number of SPARCstations - Wikipedia[^] which ran Unix back in 1998.

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                    • R raddevus

                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      job listing which requires: 5 years of UNIX

                      Yeah, I've noticed that people often mis-spell Linux as Unix. :rolleyes:

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                      "Any POSIX-compliant Operating System"

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                      • R raddevus

                        For some reason today, I started wondering if anyone (companies specifically) was still using Unix -- any distro from the past which was still considered Unix & being used at a company. I was assuming that Linux has killed Unix installations and forward development. I found this: Unix is dead. Long live Unix! • The Register[^] What is your experience with this? Any company you are working for that is using a Unix distro? Just curious. Oh, and I wrote this from my new Mac PowerBook M3 (36GB ram) and maybe macOS is considered Unix? Not sure, but I'm reading this article now: https://www.howtogeek.com/441599/is-macos-unix-and-what-does-that-mean/[^] EDIT 2 I thought maybe BSD was still around, but looks like it isn't: Berkeley Software Distribution - Wikipedia[^] EDIT 3 Very interesting (from that 1st article above):

                        Quote:

                        There are two standards that certify UNIX: POSIX and Single UNIX Specification (SUS). SUS is a superset of POSIX. So, something can be POSIX compliant, but that doesn't make it UNIX. However, if something is SUS-compliant, it's a UNIX.

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                        Might need to agree on what 'Unix' is. Not linux is one definition. But 'Unix' is trademarked by the 'Open Group' So presumably someone is enforcing that. Although https://unix.org doesn't seem to have security up. Following also mentions 'POSIX' in the section about standards. Unix - Wikipedia[^] Under the "Branding" section is says... "The Open Group's Single UNIX Specification should be able to bear the UNIX 98 or UNIX 03 trademarks today, after the operating system's vendor pays a substantial certification fee and annual trademark royalties" So that might discourage anyone from bothering.

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                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                          I haven't heard anyone talk about QNX in forever! Kinda glad it's still around.

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          QNX is the only "Unix" I've touched, and I had very little interaction with it. The company I was with in the 90s used it for a point-of-sale system, but I was working on the back office systems (in OpenVMS).

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            "Any POSIX-compliant Operating System"

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                            Any POSIX-compliant Operating System"

                            Microsoft Xenix :laugh:

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