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  • R realJSOP

    Has anyone noticed that when you get a vscode update, the release notes never call out the bugs that were fixed. <snark>I bet it's because the list is so large that it would cause the release notes file to be larger than the max possible size...</snark> <moresnark>How do they exppect us to be able to reliably develop our own buggy code if the tools they provide us are so buggy?</moresnark>

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    Mike Hankey
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    Or so short, because they didn't fix a damn thing.

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    • R realJSOP

      Has anyone noticed that when you get a vscode update, the release notes never call out the bugs that were fixed. <snark>I bet it's because the list is so large that it would cause the release notes file to be larger than the max possible size...</snark> <moresnark>How do they exppect us to be able to reliably develop our own buggy code if the tools they provide us are so buggy?</moresnark>

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      OriginalGriff
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      Microsoft fix bugs? :omg: When did they start doing that?

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Microsoft fix bugs? :omg: When did they start doing that?

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        raddevus
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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        Microsoft fix bugs?

        No need when you can just enhance over them. User: "Microsoft, have you fixed the xyz bug?" MS: "Did you see the list of 300 enhancements including new fonts and icons?" User: "Oh, look at all the shiny." :rolleyes:

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        • R realJSOP

          Has anyone noticed that when you get a vscode update, the release notes never call out the bugs that were fixed. <snark>I bet it's because the list is so large that it would cause the release notes file to be larger than the max possible size...</snark> <moresnark>How do they exppect us to be able to reliably develop our own buggy code if the tools they provide us are so buggy?</moresnark>

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          Jacquers
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          Misc bugfixes... :laugh: You can always check the list of issues closed for that release on GitHub :)

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          • R realJSOP

            Has anyone noticed that when you get a vscode update, the release notes never call out the bugs that were fixed. <snark>I bet it's because the list is so large that it would cause the release notes file to be larger than the max possible size...</snark> <moresnark>How do they exppect us to be able to reliably develop our own buggy code if the tools they provide us are so buggy?</moresnark>

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            den2k88
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            I tried VSCode and never found it a good solution for my needs. As a pure editor it's worse than VisualStudio + VisualAssistX, for C# or Windows C/C++ code it's worse... I found it acceptable for Python but I wrote 100 lines of Python in my whole life so take it with a deposit of salt.

            GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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            • R realJSOP

              Has anyone noticed that when you get a vscode update, the release notes never call out the bugs that were fixed. <snark>I bet it's because the list is so large that it would cause the release notes file to be larger than the max possible size...</snark> <moresnark>How do they exppect us to be able to reliably develop our own buggy code if the tools they provide us are so buggy?</moresnark>

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              pkfox
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              I've never felt the need to use VS Code rather than Visual Studio.

              In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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              • pkfoxP pkfox

                I've never felt the need to use VS Code rather than Visual Studio.

                In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                realJSOP
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                We have to because we're coding in javascript/react... I really enjoy it when the vscode debugger randomly creates a breakpoint in one of the bundle files or randomly deletes a breakpoint on its own, or when you paste code into a file, it automatically scrolls you to the bottom of that file (a true pain when that file is thousands of lines long, or when code thinks there's an error when it obviously isn't but the crappy intellisense simply hasn't caught up with your typing...

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • R realJSOP

                  Has anyone noticed that when you get a vscode update, the release notes never call out the bugs that were fixed. <snark>I bet it's because the list is so large that it would cause the release notes file to be larger than the max possible size...</snark> <moresnark>How do they exppect us to be able to reliably develop our own buggy code if the tools they provide us are so buggy?</moresnark>

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  dandy72
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                  All I can say about VS Code is that when it was first introduced, I was rather excited to see a decent "plain" code editor from MS that could load in roughly the same amount of time as Notepad (definitely quicker than Visual Studio itself) when all I needed was to just take a quick look at some source with something that has at least a little bit of intelligence (enough to understand the syntax). Then they quickly proceeded to throw in everything but the kitchen sink, and it rapidly lost the ability to load quickly. It's still quicker than the full-blown Visual Studio, but it's now slow enough I can't say it serves that purpose anymore...

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                  • D dandy72

                    All I can say about VS Code is that when it was first introduced, I was rather excited to see a decent "plain" code editor from MS that could load in roughly the same amount of time as Notepad (definitely quicker than Visual Studio itself) when all I needed was to just take a quick look at some source with something that has at least a little bit of intelligence (enough to understand the syntax). Then they quickly proceeded to throw in everything but the kitchen sink, and it rapidly lost the ability to load quickly. It's still quicker than the full-blown Visual Studio, but it's now slow enough I can't say it serves that purpose anymore...

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                    den2k88
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                    Notepad++ is my favourite quick editor.

                    GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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                    • D dandy72

                      All I can say about VS Code is that when it was first introduced, I was rather excited to see a decent "plain" code editor from MS that could load in roughly the same amount of time as Notepad (definitely quicker than Visual Studio itself) when all I needed was to just take a quick look at some source with something that has at least a little bit of intelligence (enough to understand the syntax). Then they quickly proceeded to throw in everything but the kitchen sink, and it rapidly lost the ability to load quickly. It's still quicker than the full-blown Visual Studio, but it's now slow enough I can't say it serves that purpose anymore...

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                      markchagers
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                      Maybe you should ditch a few extensions you don't really need. On my system (aged 4+ yrs) it starts up and loads my main project in about 2-3 seconds.

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                      • R raddevus

                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        Microsoft fix bugs?

                        No need when you can just enhance over them. User: "Microsoft, have you fixed the xyz bug?" MS: "Did you see the list of 300 enhancements including new fonts and icons?" User: "Oh, look at all the shiny." :rolleyes:

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                        JohaViss61
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                        Of course they wont fix bugs. They just rename/renumber them. :laugh: Of course they can't put that in the release notes. Error 62316: File not found => Error 86549: Miscellaneous input/output conflict. ;P

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                        • R realJSOP

                          Has anyone noticed that when you get a vscode update, the release notes never call out the bugs that were fixed. <snark>I bet it's because the list is so large that it would cause the release notes file to be larger than the max possible size...</snark> <moresnark>How do they exppect us to be able to reliably develop our own buggy code if the tools they provide us are so buggy?</moresnark>

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          AngryDane
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                          help create an environment of finding/solving/fixing the problems in FREE dev tools instead of snarking!

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                          • M markchagers

                            Maybe you should ditch a few extensions you don't really need. On my system (aged 4+ yrs) it starts up and loads my main project in about 2-3 seconds.

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                            dandy72
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                            If there's any "extension I don't really need", they come bundled with VS Code itself. How do I know what it needs vs what's superfluous? And if it's superfluous, why is it included with a default setup (is my real rant...)?

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                            • D den2k88

                              Notepad++ is my favourite quick editor.

                              GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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                              dandy72
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                              Yeah, I've used Notepad++ for years (I still have it installed on a system or two and keep it up to date), but man, it's still ugly as sin.

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                              • D dandy72

                                If there's any "extension I don't really need", they come bundled with VS Code itself. How do I know what it needs vs what's superfluous? And if it's superfluous, why is it included with a default setup (is my real rant...)?

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                                markchagers
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                                Agreed, MS includes too much in the basic setup, especially copilot seems to be a performance killer. That said, you can simply try to un-install any extension, if it's really needed, or something else depends on it you'll be notified. Additionally, there are plenty ways to troubleshoot extension performance and issues, but that assumes you're willing to invest some time to figure them out which may not be practical for you.

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                                • D dandy72

                                  Yeah, I've used Notepad++ for years (I still have it installed on a system or two and keep it up to date), but man, it's still ugly as sin.

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                                  Alister Morton
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                                  Likewise - it's quick and does the job most of the time. I still miss brief, though. Sadly we stopped using that years ago.

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                                  • R realJSOP

                                    Has anyone noticed that when you get a vscode update, the release notes never call out the bugs that were fixed. <snark>I bet it's because the list is so large that it would cause the release notes file to be larger than the max possible size...</snark> <moresnark>How do they exppect us to be able to reliably develop our own buggy code if the tools they provide us are so buggy?</moresnark>

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    Bruce Patin
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                                    exppect?

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                                    • R raddevus

                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      Microsoft fix bugs?

                                      No need when you can just enhance over them. User: "Microsoft, have you fixed the xyz bug?" MS: "Did you see the list of 300 enhancements including new fonts and icons?" User: "Oh, look at all the shiny." :rolleyes:

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                                      Mark Starr
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                                      That's the same as Jet Brains (IntelliJ IDEA): there are bugs over 8 years old, but instead they add additional functionality. :doh:

                                      Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                                      • D den2k88

                                        Notepad++ is my favourite quick editor.

                                        GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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                                        Mark Starr
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                                        I used Notepad++ for a while (until I'd read that an extension was hacked and introduced malware); then I tried SublimeText - but it had way more than I needed (still paid a donation); started using VS Code: I keep the number of extensions to a minimum. Of course, I have Visual Studio for larger, complex projects.

                                        Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                                        • M markchagers

                                          Agreed, MS includes too much in the basic setup, especially copilot seems to be a performance killer. That said, you can simply try to un-install any extension, if it's really needed, or something else depends on it you'll be notified. Additionally, there are plenty ways to troubleshoot extension performance and issues, but that assumes you're willing to invest some time to figure them out which may not be practical for you.

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                                          dandy72
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                                          markchagers wrote:

                                          but that assumes you're willing to invest some time to figure them out which may not be practical for you.

                                          Only up to a certain point. If VSCode could be made to load as quickly as Notepad, it'd be worth quite a bit of research time.

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