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  • D dandy72

    All I can say about VS Code is that when it was first introduced, I was rather excited to see a decent "plain" code editor from MS that could load in roughly the same amount of time as Notepad (definitely quicker than Visual Studio itself) when all I needed was to just take a quick look at some source with something that has at least a little bit of intelligence (enough to understand the syntax). Then they quickly proceeded to throw in everything but the kitchen sink, and it rapidly lost the ability to load quickly. It's still quicker than the full-blown Visual Studio, but it's now slow enough I can't say it serves that purpose anymore...

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    markchagers
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    Maybe you should ditch a few extensions you don't really need. On my system (aged 4+ yrs) it starts up and loads my main project in about 2-3 seconds.

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    • R raddevus

      OriginalGriff wrote:

      Microsoft fix bugs?

      No need when you can just enhance over them. User: "Microsoft, have you fixed the xyz bug?" MS: "Did you see the list of 300 enhancements including new fonts and icons?" User: "Oh, look at all the shiny." :rolleyes:

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      JohaViss61
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      Of course they wont fix bugs. They just rename/renumber them. :laugh: Of course they can't put that in the release notes. Error 62316: File not found => Error 86549: Miscellaneous input/output conflict. ;P

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      • R realJSOP

        Has anyone noticed that when you get a vscode update, the release notes never call out the bugs that were fixed. <snark>I bet it's because the list is so large that it would cause the release notes file to be larger than the max possible size...</snark> <moresnark>How do they exppect us to be able to reliably develop our own buggy code if the tools they provide us are so buggy?</moresnark>

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        AngryDane
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        help create an environment of finding/solving/fixing the problems in FREE dev tools instead of snarking!

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        • M markchagers

          Maybe you should ditch a few extensions you don't really need. On my system (aged 4+ yrs) it starts up and loads my main project in about 2-3 seconds.

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          dandy72
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          If there's any "extension I don't really need", they come bundled with VS Code itself. How do I know what it needs vs what's superfluous? And if it's superfluous, why is it included with a default setup (is my real rant...)?

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          • D den2k88

            Notepad++ is my favourite quick editor.

            GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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            dandy72
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            Yeah, I've used Notepad++ for years (I still have it installed on a system or two and keep it up to date), but man, it's still ugly as sin.

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            • D dandy72

              If there's any "extension I don't really need", they come bundled with VS Code itself. How do I know what it needs vs what's superfluous? And if it's superfluous, why is it included with a default setup (is my real rant...)?

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              markchagers
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              Agreed, MS includes too much in the basic setup, especially copilot seems to be a performance killer. That said, you can simply try to un-install any extension, if it's really needed, or something else depends on it you'll be notified. Additionally, there are plenty ways to troubleshoot extension performance and issues, but that assumes you're willing to invest some time to figure them out which may not be practical for you.

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              • D dandy72

                Yeah, I've used Notepad++ for years (I still have it installed on a system or two and keep it up to date), but man, it's still ugly as sin.

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                Alister Morton
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                Likewise - it's quick and does the job most of the time. I still miss brief, though. Sadly we stopped using that years ago.

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                • R realJSOP

                  Has anyone noticed that when you get a vscode update, the release notes never call out the bugs that were fixed. <snark>I bet it's because the list is so large that it would cause the release notes file to be larger than the max possible size...</snark> <moresnark>How do they exppect us to be able to reliably develop our own buggy code if the tools they provide us are so buggy?</moresnark>

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Bruce Patin
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                  exppect?

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                  • R raddevus

                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    Microsoft fix bugs?

                    No need when you can just enhance over them. User: "Microsoft, have you fixed the xyz bug?" MS: "Did you see the list of 300 enhancements including new fonts and icons?" User: "Oh, look at all the shiny." :rolleyes:

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                    Mark Starr
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                    That's the same as Jet Brains (IntelliJ IDEA): there are bugs over 8 years old, but instead they add additional functionality. :doh:

                    Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                    • D den2k88

                      Notepad++ is my favourite quick editor.

                      GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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                      Mark Starr
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                      I used Notepad++ for a while (until I'd read that an extension was hacked and introduced malware); then I tried SublimeText - but it had way more than I needed (still paid a donation); started using VS Code: I keep the number of extensions to a minimum. Of course, I have Visual Studio for larger, complex projects.

                      Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events. - Manly P. Hall Mark Just another cog in the wheel

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                      • M markchagers

                        Agreed, MS includes too much in the basic setup, especially copilot seems to be a performance killer. That said, you can simply try to un-install any extension, if it's really needed, or something else depends on it you'll be notified. Additionally, there are plenty ways to troubleshoot extension performance and issues, but that assumes you're willing to invest some time to figure them out which may not be practical for you.

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                        dandy72
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                        markchagers wrote:

                        but that assumes you're willing to invest some time to figure them out which may not be practical for you.

                        Only up to a certain point. If VSCode could be made to load as quickly as Notepad, it'd be worth quite a bit of research time.

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                        • D dandy72

                          Yeah, I've used Notepad++ for years (I still have it installed on a system or two and keep it up to date), but man, it's still ugly as sin.

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                          den2k88
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                          I find it perfect and clean, I like its interface. Also the ability to split views and lock the horizontal and or vertical scroll between the two views is absolutely priceless!

                          GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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                          • D den2k88

                            I find it perfect and clean, I like its interface. Also the ability to split views and lock the horizontal and or vertical scroll between the two views is absolutely priceless!

                            GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++*      Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X The shortest horror story: On Error Resume Next

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                            dandy72
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                            den2k88 wrote:

                            Also the ability to split views and lock the horizontal and or vertical scroll between the two views is absolutely priceless!

                            That should be a standard feature for all editors. Heck all controls should inherit that right from Windows itself.

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