Opinions of WIX
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I'm a long-term web developer, used to building web-based applications in ASP.Net and using CSS, semantic markup, Javascript, AJAX and dynamically-generated content at the server. I'm happy hand-coding CSS and crafting HTML using classes, defining grids, floats etc. etc.. I've recently been "commandeered" by a charity I volunteer with to assist their overworked webmaster. Their website is primarily static pages, and end-users can add blog entries for specific categories. There's no server-side form processing involved. BUT the site is running on the WIX platform. It is possible to write page-specific CSS, but it won't do you much good as WIX generates its own HTML from your definitions of strips, sections, text etc - and doesn't let you add classnames or element IDs. The webmaster reckons WIX is the bees-knees and claims that "Wix is probably the leading web platform around today. ... Wix is truly state of the art and the market leader." He also claims that it generates "responsive pages" - but the "responsiveness", such as it is, is done at the server. This means if you open a page on a mobile phone, then turn it into landscape, the page doesn't re-flow or re-structure; it just makes everything bigger to fill the width. This is NOT my understanding of "responsive design"... I'm curious as to others' opinion of Wix, and whether I'm missing something obvious, or am way behind the web design trend.
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I'm a long-term web developer, used to building web-based applications in ASP.Net and using CSS, semantic markup, Javascript, AJAX and dynamically-generated content at the server. I'm happy hand-coding CSS and crafting HTML using classes, defining grids, floats etc. etc.. I've recently been "commandeered" by a charity I volunteer with to assist their overworked webmaster. Their website is primarily static pages, and end-users can add blog entries for specific categories. There's no server-side form processing involved. BUT the site is running on the WIX platform. It is possible to write page-specific CSS, but it won't do you much good as WIX generates its own HTML from your definitions of strips, sections, text etc - and doesn't let you add classnames or element IDs. The webmaster reckons WIX is the bees-knees and claims that "Wix is probably the leading web platform around today. ... Wix is truly state of the art and the market leader." He also claims that it generates "responsive pages" - but the "responsiveness", such as it is, is done at the server. This means if you open a page on a mobile phone, then turn it into landscape, the page doesn't re-flow or re-structure; it just makes everything bigger to fill the width. This is NOT my understanding of "responsive design"... I'm curious as to others' opinion of Wix, and whether I'm missing something obvious, or am way behind the web design trend.
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DerekT-P wrote:
probably the leading web platform around today. ... truly state of the art and the market leader.
Never heard of it, but based on that quote, it sounds like the webmaster has swallowed their marketing department's entire supply of BS. :laugh: According to Wikipedia[^], they have previously been caught stealing code from WordPress without complying with the license. They've also deleted websites at the request of the Chinese government, and fired an employee for being critical of Israel. So probably not the most trustworthy of companies then.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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I'm a long-term web developer, used to building web-based applications in ASP.Net and using CSS, semantic markup, Javascript, AJAX and dynamically-generated content at the server. I'm happy hand-coding CSS and crafting HTML using classes, defining grids, floats etc. etc.. I've recently been "commandeered" by a charity I volunteer with to assist their overworked webmaster. Their website is primarily static pages, and end-users can add blog entries for specific categories. There's no server-side form processing involved. BUT the site is running on the WIX platform. It is possible to write page-specific CSS, but it won't do you much good as WIX generates its own HTML from your definitions of strips, sections, text etc - and doesn't let you add classnames or element IDs. The webmaster reckons WIX is the bees-knees and claims that "Wix is probably the leading web platform around today. ... Wix is truly state of the art and the market leader." He also claims that it generates "responsive pages" - but the "responsiveness", such as it is, is done at the server. This means if you open a page on a mobile phone, then turn it into landscape, the page doesn't re-flow or re-structure; it just makes everything bigger to fill the width. This is NOT my understanding of "responsive design"... I'm curious as to others' opinion of Wix, and whether I'm missing something obvious, or am way behind the web design trend.
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DerekT-P wrote:
I'm a long-term web developer, used to building web-based applications in ASP.Net and using CSS, semantic markup, Javascript, AJAX and dynamically-generated content at the server. I'm happy hand-coding CSS and crafting HTML using classes, defining grids, floats etc. etc..
It sounds like you know what you're doing.
DerekT-P wrote:
BUT the site is running on the WIX platform.
Oh, my...That's awful. I am so sorry to hear this.
DerekT-P wrote:
The webmaster reckons WIX is the bees-knees and claims that "Wix is probably the leading web platform around today. ... Wix is truly state of the art and the market leader."
:wtf: Were you able to keep from laughing when he told you this? What market is he referring to? The local flea market? That's like saying "Notepad" is the industry standard IDE for software development. I've never encountered a web design editor that improved the quality of my work or allowed me to develop more quickly. I remember using Dreamweaver back when Macromedia owned it. It was such a hassle to do the simplest of things and all it did was get in the way. Then we had NetObjects Cold Fusion. That was just as useless. However, I could say that if a person wants to throw together a cookie-cutter website, and they have no experience whatsoever in this field, then it's probably a great tool. The thing to remember is that the tool is only as good as the person who uses it. Imagine what Pablo Picasso could do with a box of crayons. Compare that to someone without artistic talent using the most advanced digital art application out there. I'm talking about "Corel Painter". With great accuracy, it simulates the appearance and behavior of traditional media, such as oil painting, pastels, graphite, airbrush, pen and ink, and the list goes on. Could Pablo Picasso do more with crayons than someone who lacks artistic talent and uses the most advanced tools out there? My money is on Picasso and his crayons every time. This unfortunate "webmaster" is out of touch with reality. Does he share his other beliefs with you? If so, do those beliefs defy reality? He may have a serious condition. Such a condition could cause him harm. In the most severe cases, people who undergo this type of psychotic break from reality exhibit delusions of grandeur. An afflicted person might believe they can fly and jump off the
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I'm a long-term web developer, used to building web-based applications in ASP.Net and using CSS, semantic markup, Javascript, AJAX and dynamically-generated content at the server. I'm happy hand-coding CSS and crafting HTML using classes, defining grids, floats etc. etc.. I've recently been "commandeered" by a charity I volunteer with to assist their overworked webmaster. Their website is primarily static pages, and end-users can add blog entries for specific categories. There's no server-side form processing involved. BUT the site is running on the WIX platform. It is possible to write page-specific CSS, but it won't do you much good as WIX generates its own HTML from your definitions of strips, sections, text etc - and doesn't let you add classnames or element IDs. The webmaster reckons WIX is the bees-knees and claims that "Wix is probably the leading web platform around today. ... Wix is truly state of the art and the market leader." He also claims that it generates "responsive pages" - but the "responsiveness", such as it is, is done at the server. This means if you open a page on a mobile phone, then turn it into landscape, the page doesn't re-flow or re-structure; it just makes everything bigger to fill the width. This is NOT my understanding of "responsive design"... I'm curious as to others' opinion of Wix, and whether I'm missing something obvious, or am way behind the web design trend.
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DerekT-P wrote:
The webmaster reckons WIX is the bees-knees and claims that "Wix is probably the leading web platform around today. ... Wix is truly state of the art and the market leader."
Anyone who drops buzzword nonsense like that is not a legit professional. At beast he's been hanging around too many business types and his ego makes him think he knows all about the web or he's just flat-out incompetent. Either way, saying crap like that is amateur hour. That being said, nothing wrong with WIX. It's not the holy grail home dude pretends it is. But, it does have its place. It's great for people that just want to throw together a simple site or mom and pop shops who don't need anything hard core and just want to put a web page up. It'll never replace custom work or heavy lifting, but it can be a great way to get people started with their own site and maybe do a little ecom or put a family photo album online, etc. Just know the market it serves. If you're a professional web dev even, and don't want to spend your time working on volunteer sites (like this), it's great. If they need anything with more custom power, they can pay for custom dev work. But, most folks just starting out can't afford that. So, I'm a fan of WIX. Just know its market and don't believe some dude with an ego.
Jeremy Falcon
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DerekT-P wrote:
I'm a long-term web developer, used to building web-based applications in ASP.Net and using CSS, semantic markup, Javascript, AJAX and dynamically-generated content at the server. I'm happy hand-coding CSS and crafting HTML using classes, defining grids, floats etc. etc..
It sounds like you know what you're doing.
DerekT-P wrote:
BUT the site is running on the WIX platform.
Oh, my...That's awful. I am so sorry to hear this.
DerekT-P wrote:
The webmaster reckons WIX is the bees-knees and claims that "Wix is probably the leading web platform around today. ... Wix is truly state of the art and the market leader."
:wtf: Were you able to keep from laughing when he told you this? What market is he referring to? The local flea market? That's like saying "Notepad" is the industry standard IDE for software development. I've never encountered a web design editor that improved the quality of my work or allowed me to develop more quickly. I remember using Dreamweaver back when Macromedia owned it. It was such a hassle to do the simplest of things and all it did was get in the way. Then we had NetObjects Cold Fusion. That was just as useless. However, I could say that if a person wants to throw together a cookie-cutter website, and they have no experience whatsoever in this field, then it's probably a great tool. The thing to remember is that the tool is only as good as the person who uses it. Imagine what Pablo Picasso could do with a box of crayons. Compare that to someone without artistic talent using the most advanced digital art application out there. I'm talking about "Corel Painter". With great accuracy, it simulates the appearance and behavior of traditional media, such as oil painting, pastels, graphite, airbrush, pen and ink, and the list goes on. Could Pablo Picasso do more with crayons than someone who lacks artistic talent and uses the most advanced tools out there? My money is on Picasso and his crayons every time. This unfortunate "webmaster" is out of touch with reality. Does he share his other beliefs with you? If so, do those beliefs defy reality? He may have a serious condition. Such a condition could cause him harm. In the most severe cases, people who undergo this type of psychotic break from reality exhibit delusions of grandeur. An afflicted person might believe they can fly and jump off the
Steve Raw wrote:
What market is he referring to? The local flea market?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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DerekT-P wrote:
probably the leading web platform around today. ... truly state of the art and the market leader.
Never heard of it, but based on that quote, it sounds like the webmaster has swallowed their marketing department's entire supply of BS. :laugh: According to Wikipedia[^], they have previously been caught stealing code from WordPress without complying with the license. They've also deleted websites at the request of the Chinese government, and fired an employee for being critical of Israel. So probably not the most trustworthy of companies then.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
Richard Deeming wrote:
they have previously been caught stealing code from WordPress without complying with the license. They've also deleted websites at the request of the Chinese government, and fired an employee for being critical of Israel. So probably not the most trustworthy of companies then.
Holy crap. Never knew any of this. So... might be time to rethink recommending them to smaller website owners.
Jeremy Falcon
