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  • A Amarnath S

    Appears locale specific. Am not finding such a word in Windows in India (English).

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    Mircea Neacsu
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    Interesting. Mine is Win 11 Pro, 23H2 English(US)

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      English is not my mother tongue but "favorited" sounds like a complete abomination. However Microsoft seems to think otherwise. This is a screen capture from Windows Explorer. How would you vote: to favorite or not to favorite? PS A phrase like "After you marked some files as favourites, we'll show them here", wouldn't have been much longer and for sure would have been more grammatically sound.

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      MarkTJohnson
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      Must have been created by the same people who have made terms like "Your Spend" and "The Ask". Both of these words are verbs but Marketing people have corrupted and bastardized them into nouns. I rail against them in meetings. You have a question not an ask, asking is what you do with a question.

      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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      • D dandy72

        I was once told (half-jokingly) that in English, you can practically "verb any noun".

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        Mircea Neacsu
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        In this case they seem to verb adjectives too as the proper phrase would have been "favorite file". Not sure if English language should be "beautifuled" with these constructs. I know I'm picky but I love this language even if it's an adopted one. :)

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          Interesting. Mine is Win 11 Pro, 23H2 English(US)

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          Amarnath S
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          Mine is Win 11 Home Edition, 22H2. This is also English, but not US English; mostly UK-English customized to India.

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          • M MarkTJohnson

            Must have been created by the same people who have made terms like "Your Spend" and "The Ask". Both of these words are verbs but Marketing people have corrupted and bastardized them into nouns. I rail against them in meetings. You have a question not an ask, asking is what you do with a question.

            I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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            Rick York
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            Along with the word tasked which was entirely made up.

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            • M Mircea Neacsu

              English is not my mother tongue but "favorited" sounds like a complete abomination. However Microsoft seems to think otherwise. This is a screen capture from Windows Explorer. How would you vote: to favorite or not to favorite? PS A phrase like "After you marked some files as favourites, we'll show them here", wouldn't have been much longer and for sure would have been more grammatically sound.

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              Rick York
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              As was said in Calvin and Hobbes, "Verbing nouns weirds the language."

              "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                English is not my mother tongue but "favorited" sounds like a complete abomination. However Microsoft seems to think otherwise. This is a screen capture from Windows Explorer. How would you vote: to favorite or not to favorite? PS A phrase like "After you marked some files as favourites, we'll show them here", wouldn't have been much longer and for sure would have been more grammatically sound.

                Mircea

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                David ONeil
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                Oxford disagrees: favourite verb - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com[^]. I don't really see much wrong with it. It is shorter, and self-evident in meaning. Brevity often coincides with clarity. (Although Oxford uses the English spelling - 'favourite,' vs the Americanized 'favorite'. It is Oxford, after all.)

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                • M Mircea Neacsu

                  English is not my mother tongue but "favorited" sounds like a complete abomination. However Microsoft seems to think otherwise. This is a screen capture from Windows Explorer. How would you vote: to favorite or not to favorite? PS A phrase like "After you marked some files as favourites, we'll show them here", wouldn't have been much longer and for sure would have been more grammatically sound.

                  Mircea

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                  RainHat
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                  They have not heard of the word favoured (favored in US)?

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                  • 0 0x01AA

                    Looks like redacted by a non native English like me :laugh:

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                    I wouldn't bet on that!

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                    • M MarkTJohnson

                      Must have been created by the same people who have made terms like "Your Spend" and "The Ask". Both of these words are verbs but Marketing people have corrupted and bastardized them into nouns. I rail against them in meetings. You have a question not an ask, asking is what you do with a question.

                      I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                      haughtonomous
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                      Comes the revolution, Marketing/Advertising folk should be first up against the wall, "for the cold blooded murder of the English tongue". I'm half-joking, but only half. Professor Higgins captured it nicely : "Why can't the English teach their children how to speak? Norwegians learn Norwegian, the Greeks are taught their Greek....."

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                      • M Mircea Neacsu

                        English is not my mother tongue but "favorited" sounds like a complete abomination. However Microsoft seems to think otherwise. This is a screen capture from Windows Explorer. How would you vote: to favorite or not to favorite? PS A phrase like "After you marked some files as favourites, we'll show them here", wouldn't have been much longer and for sure would have been more grammatically sound.

                        Mircea

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                        haughtonomous
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                        Isn't "verbing" itself a good example of exactly the same abomination?🙄

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                        • M Mircea Neacsu

                          English is not my mother tongue but "favorited" sounds like a complete abomination. However Microsoft seems to think otherwise. This is a screen capture from Windows Explorer. How would you vote: to favorite or not to favorite? PS A phrase like "After you marked some files as favourites, we'll show them here", wouldn't have been much longer and for sure would have been more grammatically sound.

                          Mircea

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                          GuyThiebaut
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                          Verbing nouns and nouning verbs makes my toes curl. "Learnings" 😱

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                          • M Mircea Neacsu

                            English is not my mother tongue but "favorited" sounds like a complete abomination. However Microsoft seems to think otherwise. This is a screen capture from Windows Explorer. How would you vote: to favorite or not to favorite? PS A phrase like "After you marked some files as favourites, we'll show them here", wouldn't have been much longer and for sure would have been more grammatically sound.

                            Mircea

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                            CHill60
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                            Let me think about that and revert back to you P.S. It's my pet hate misuse of a word, and now that I've done this thing I need to lie down in a darkened room and reconsider my life choices

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                            • M Mircea Neacsu

                              In this case they seem to verb adjectives too as the proper phrase would have been "favorite file". Not sure if English language should be "beautifuled" with these constructs. I know I'm picky but I love this language even if it's an adopted one. :)

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                              dandy72
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                              Mircea Neacsu wrote:

                              beautifuled

                              Beautified. And in this case, yes, it's [a thing](https://www.google.ca/search?q=define%3Abeautify).

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                                Must have been created by the same people who have made terms like "Your Spend" and "The Ask". Both of these words are verbs but Marketing people have corrupted and bastardized them into nouns. I rail against them in meetings. You have a question not an ask, asking is what you do with a question.

                                I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                                TNCaver
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                                MarkTJohnson wrote:

                                You have a question not an ask

                                I've not heard it used in place of 'question' but rather a short version of asking a favor. "Hey, man, I've got a big ask of you. Would you mind < doing some favor >?"

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                                • D David ONeil

                                  Oxford disagrees: favourite verb - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com[^]. I don't really see much wrong with it. It is shorter, and self-evident in meaning. Brevity often coincides with clarity. (Although Oxford uses the English spelling - 'favourite,' vs the Americanized 'favorite'. It is Oxford, after all.)

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                                  Mircea Neacsu
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                                  Cannot argue with Oxford so, case closed. Maybe someone should send a memo to Merriam-Wesbster that is my go to reference.

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                                  • M Mircea Neacsu

                                    English is not my mother tongue but "favorited" sounds like a complete abomination. However Microsoft seems to think otherwise. This is a screen capture from Windows Explorer. How would you vote: to favorite or not to favorite? PS A phrase like "After you marked some files as favourites, we'll show them here", wouldn't have been much longer and for sure would have been more grammatically sound.

                                    Mircea

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                                    jochance
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                                    It's ok, I speak only English, pretty much and favorited sounds like an abomination to me too.

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                                      Let me think about that and revert back to you P.S. It's my pet hate misuse of a word, and now that I've done this thing I need to lie down in a darkened room and reconsider my life choices

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                                      jeron1
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                                      I literally died when I read that! ;P My kids use phrases like this, makes me cringe. X|

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                                      • D David ONeil

                                        Oxford disagrees: favourite verb - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com[^]. I don't really see much wrong with it. It is shorter, and self-evident in meaning. Brevity often coincides with clarity. (Although Oxford uses the English spelling - 'favourite,' vs the Americanized 'favorite'. It is Oxford, after all.)

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        David O'Neil wrote:

                                        Brevity often coincides with clarity

                                        But when it doesn't...

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                                        • M Mircea Neacsu

                                          In this case they seem to verb adjectives too as the proper phrase would have been "favorite file". Not sure if English language should be "beautifuled" with these constructs. I know I'm picky but I love this language even if it's an adopted one. :)

                                          Mircea

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                                          trønderen
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                                          Mircea Neacsu wrote:

                                          "favorite file"

                                          Which illustrates the ambiguity: Is your "favorite file" the one you would prefer over other files, or a file of your favorites (e.g. URLs, lovers or whatever)? In this case, you could of course "favorites file" for the second alternative, but even if you can, maybe you don't do that. I have seen lots of such cases where I had to guess from context what the meaning is. The less ambiguity, the better. (Except when the very purpose of the statement is to play with the language!)

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