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  • M Marc Clifton

    apferreira wrote: But as with all things, there is allways room for improvement. How can CodeProject grow both in quality and in numbers? How do you imagine Codeproject 5 years from now? What is our role, as members of this community, in the growth of CodeProject? As I see it, this is a two part question. The first part is an implicit assumption that there's something wrong that needs to be fixed now. You mention quality along with growth, and the future, so I would assume that you want to discuss areas in which CP's current implementation may not sustain quality as it continues to grow in the future. So, in response, I'm curious as to what you mean by quality, and can you identify areas in the existing implementation that may compromise your concept of quality as CP experiences growth. Also, it's easy to say there's always room for improvement, but that begs the question, "what improvement do you suggest?" This is a pandora's box, because one person's concept of an improvement is another person's concept of a degredation in quality. The second phase is sort of like the first phase, but instead of identifying something wrong with CP's current approach, one can assume that everything for the moment is perfect, but that planning is needed to maintain the same level of perceived quality in the future. (To say that we want to exceed the current quality goes against the premise and reverts back to the first part of the question, which implies that there is something that can be improved now). So, again the question is, where do you perceive the computing community moving in the next 5 years, what technologies do you see evolving, and probably most relevant, what changes in Internet access do you see occurring? All of these are areas that require a crystal ball for appropriate planning, the goal of which is to maintain the same level of perceived quality. As an aside, I think it can be argued as to whether or not the perception of quality is enhanced when features are added that take advantage of new technologies, or if the perception of quality simply remains the same because it is expected that these enhancements are made, and the perception would degrade if the enhancements were not made. As a second aside, as a system matures it transitions from "new features" to "feature servicing". Where do you think CP is right now on that bar? Are there more features to be added or enhancements to existing features? And lastly, all things have a life cycle. Whi

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    You truly have a gift for communication. I mean that sincerely. I think this is a fantastic response that you give and it makes me wish that I could communicate as succinctly as this. Best Regards, Rex


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      You truly have a gift for communication. I mean that sincerely. I think this is a fantastic response that you give and it makes me wish that I could communicate as succinctly as this. Best Regards, Rex


      "Back to school, back to school; to prove to dad I'm not a fool." - Billy Madison (Adam Sandler) Rex Winn

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      J Dunlap
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      I'll second that. It's part of what makes him a great leader. :)

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      • D David Wulff

        I checked my profile today and it has been three years almost to the day since the current member/profile system went up, and I can't even tell you when it was before then that I actually started visiting here, let alone when I signed up. In that time I am certain the change has been significant, yet I can't actually rememeber a time when it has been any different. In five years time, apart from being able to dictate messages to be posted in the Lounge via a wireless microphone installed in my cheek and viewing the results directly on my retina, I can't see any major changes occuring (nor needing to). CodeProject simply evolves along with it's members for the industry it deals with. Today it is Codeproject Projects, tomorrow it may be anything.


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        http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.codeproject.com[^] Only goes back to 2000, but still quite cool :cool: Paul ;)

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        • A apferreira

          I personally love this site and would like to see it grow even more. The community that developed around it is great. CodeProject already has a respectable number of members 472995, although not all participate actively and some are just one time stoppers. The ratio of articles to members is less than one percent. Although some of the articles are questionable, I think a large number of them are medium to high quality articles. Also,I think I speak for all when I say that CodeProject has been a great help in improving our skills and learning new things. But as with all things, there is allways room for improvement. How can CodeProject grow both in quality and in numbers? How do you imagine Codeproject 5 years from now? What is our role, as members of this community, in the growth of CodeProject?

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          apferreira wrote: grow both in quality and in numbers Member.. grow!! It's grown by over 450,000 members in the last 1.5 years!! I think thats a fairly big growth rate :-D Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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          • C Christian Graus

            *grin* When I first read your post above, I thought the same, then worked out you meant Code Guru. When I saw your comment about windevnet, I wondered what you meant - of course it was my last round of articles for WDJ. I'm still waiting for my Dr. Dobbs articles to surface, but I'm not holding my breath any longer. The truth is that life is just so busy for me now. We've just bought 5 acres ( 2 hectares ) of land, and we're in the process of moving, and then we'll be in the process of turning 5 acres of grass into a minifarm ( fruit trees, vegetable garden, chickens, I'm hoping a cow ). I also spent the last six months programming for Palm, and while I wrote a few articles, in the end I just sort of drifted away from CP because I was in another sphere. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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            Christian Graus wrote: The truth is that life is just so busy for me now. We've just bought 5 acres ( 2 hectares ) of land, and we're in the process of moving, and then we'll be in the process of turning 5 acres of grass into a minifarm ( fruit trees, vegetable garden, chickens, I'm hoping a cow ). Cool, nothing like nature to unstress our stressful life :-) Cheers,Joao Vaz One protocol to rule them all One protocol to find them One protocol to bring them all And in the darkness, bind them In the land of mordor.net, where the shadowed fibers lie

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              I'll second that. It's part of what makes him a great leader. :)

              "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
              "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi

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              • A apferreira

                I personally love this site and would like to see it grow even more. The community that developed around it is great. CodeProject already has a respectable number of members 472995, although not all participate actively and some are just one time stoppers. The ratio of articles to members is less than one percent. Although some of the articles are questionable, I think a large number of them are medium to high quality articles. Also,I think I speak for all when I say that CodeProject has been a great help in improving our skills and learning new things. But as with all things, there is allways room for improvement. How can CodeProject grow both in quality and in numbers? How do you imagine Codeproject 5 years from now? What is our role, as members of this community, in the growth of CodeProject?

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                apferreira wrote: How do you imagine Codeproject 5 years from now? I imagine CP purchasing a small island in the Carribbean, and forming a nation of coders. :bob: will be our king. All Hail The King!! BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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                  apferreira wrote: How do you imagine Codeproject 5 years from now? I imagine CP purchasing a small island in the Carribbean, and forming a nation of coders. :bob: will be our king. All Hail The King!! BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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                  :-D

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                    apferreira wrote: How do you imagine Codeproject 5 years from now? I imagine CP purchasing a small island in the Carribbean, and forming a nation of coders. :bob: will be our king. All Hail The King!! BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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                    :-D

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      apferreira wrote: But as with all things, there is allways room for improvement. How can CodeProject grow both in quality and in numbers? How do you imagine Codeproject 5 years from now? What is our role, as members of this community, in the growth of CodeProject? As I see it, this is a two part question. The first part is an implicit assumption that there's something wrong that needs to be fixed now. You mention quality along with growth, and the future, so I would assume that you want to discuss areas in which CP's current implementation may not sustain quality as it continues to grow in the future. So, in response, I'm curious as to what you mean by quality, and can you identify areas in the existing implementation that may compromise your concept of quality as CP experiences growth. Also, it's easy to say there's always room for improvement, but that begs the question, "what improvement do you suggest?" This is a pandora's box, because one person's concept of an improvement is another person's concept of a degredation in quality. The second phase is sort of like the first phase, but instead of identifying something wrong with CP's current approach, one can assume that everything for the moment is perfect, but that planning is needed to maintain the same level of perceived quality in the future. (To say that we want to exceed the current quality goes against the premise and reverts back to the first part of the question, which implies that there is something that can be improved now). So, again the question is, where do you perceive the computing community moving in the next 5 years, what technologies do you see evolving, and probably most relevant, what changes in Internet access do you see occurring? All of these are areas that require a crystal ball for appropriate planning, the goal of which is to maintain the same level of perceived quality. As an aside, I think it can be argued as to whether or not the perception of quality is enhanced when features are added that take advantage of new technologies, or if the perception of quality simply remains the same because it is expected that these enhancements are made, and the perception would degrade if the enhancements were not made. As a second aside, as a system matures it transitions from "new features" to "feature servicing". Where do you think CP is right now on that bar? Are there more features to be added or enhancements to existing features? And lastly, all things have a life cycle. Whi

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                      Let me answer what appears to be the most convoluted response to the original question :D : Firstly, both Dave and I are thrilled beyond our wildest dreams at how well CodeProject is going and how much fun it is to be part of such an incredible community. Part of the satisfaction is actually rolling up the sleeves and building it, and part is from enjoying the comments we get from everyone we meet who are amazed that such an polite, fun, intelligent and cooperative bunch of people (yeah - I'm talking about you lot) have come together. It's very, very cool. BUT - we also throw around a dozen ideas a day on what we want to fix and what we want to add. We know we can't tamper too much, or try and bring too many peices into the puzzle, but CodeProject will grow and we are going to do our damndest to ensure that it's all in the right direction. New features, better involvement with you guys and girls, higher quality control - all essentially what we already have but done, well different and better. Marc Clifton wrote: As a second aside, as a system matures it transitions from "new features" to "feature servicing". This is true, but some features will constantly be in both states: maintaining their current level of functionality while improving and adding to them. Marc Clifton wrote: As an aside, I think it can be argued as to whether or not the perception of quality is enhanced when features are added that take advantage of new technologies, or if the perception of quality simply remains the same because it is expected that these enhancements are made, and the perception would degrade if the enhancements were not made. This is a point we wrestled with in regards to rewriting CP. We could have had an ASP.NET version out years ago but we made the conscious decision to do this only when we had sufficient resources and only when it actually became a necessity. Arguably both of these conditions have now been but we still wonder if a .aspx extension instead of a .asp extension will really provide a perception of improved quality. My guess is it won't. Marc Clifton wrote: Where do you think CP is right now on that bar? Are there more features to be added or enhancements to existing features? I guess I'm the best to answer that and the question is on two levels. On one, we have most of the features a community such as CodeProject needs. Nips and tucks and some sparkles would be nice but it's definitely a mature prod

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                        Let me answer what appears to be the most convoluted response to the original question :D : Firstly, both Dave and I are thrilled beyond our wildest dreams at how well CodeProject is going and how much fun it is to be part of such an incredible community. Part of the satisfaction is actually rolling up the sleeves and building it, and part is from enjoying the comments we get from everyone we meet who are amazed that such an polite, fun, intelligent and cooperative bunch of people (yeah - I'm talking about you lot) have come together. It's very, very cool. BUT - we also throw around a dozen ideas a day on what we want to fix and what we want to add. We know we can't tamper too much, or try and bring too many peices into the puzzle, but CodeProject will grow and we are going to do our damndest to ensure that it's all in the right direction. New features, better involvement with you guys and girls, higher quality control - all essentially what we already have but done, well different and better. Marc Clifton wrote: As a second aside, as a system matures it transitions from "new features" to "feature servicing". This is true, but some features will constantly be in both states: maintaining their current level of functionality while improving and adding to them. Marc Clifton wrote: As an aside, I think it can be argued as to whether or not the perception of quality is enhanced when features are added that take advantage of new technologies, or if the perception of quality simply remains the same because it is expected that these enhancements are made, and the perception would degrade if the enhancements were not made. This is a point we wrestled with in regards to rewriting CP. We could have had an ASP.NET version out years ago but we made the conscious decision to do this only when we had sufficient resources and only when it actually became a necessity. Arguably both of these conditions have now been but we still wonder if a .aspx extension instead of a .asp extension will really provide a perception of improved quality. My guess is it won't. Marc Clifton wrote: Where do you think CP is right now on that bar? Are there more features to be added or enhancements to existing features? I guess I'm the best to answer that and the question is on two levels. On one, we have most of the features a community such as CodeProject needs. Nips and tucks and some sparkles would be nice but it's definitely a mature prod

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                        Now where's that "high 5" emoticon when you need it? :-D Marc Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
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