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  • R RossMW

    In some places this is a type of scam as because when you answer they hang up. If you ring back the number you can be charged excessive call costs and hence how they make there money.

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    Oh wow... if they only used that creativity for good.

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      I get 10 to 15 calls a week in my spanish number, not really a scam just telemarketing trying to sell me something (mostly another contract for the cell phone) I have already told several times, they should please stop, but they do not even know where they are calling, the pc does the call for them. And the a$$holes have a range of phone numbers that change from time to time, so blocking the numbers brings not so much. I whish all the people could get out, but their call centers burn down to ashes.

      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      Nelek wrote:

      I whish all the people could get out, but their call centers burn down to ashes.

      But don't you feel special though? (sarcasm) :laugh: :laugh:

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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        The number they called you with was probably spoofed. There's a good chance you called someone who's involvement was limited to their phone number being borrowed without their knowledge.

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        Yeah, it was for an old LLC of mine. Most of which is public record. Still, makes you wonder about some people.

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        • N Nelek

          I get 10 to 15 calls a week in my spanish number, not really a scam just telemarketing trying to sell me something (mostly another contract for the cell phone) I have already told several times, they should please stop, but they do not even know where they are calling, the pc does the call for them. And the a$$holes have a range of phone numbers that change from time to time, so blocking the numbers brings not so much. I whish all the people could get out, but their call centers burn down to ashes.

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          Nelek wrote:

          so blocking the numbers brings not so much.

          Yeah, the default phone app on my Android is limited to blocking 500 specific numbers. Once that filled up, I ended up just writing a little "blocking" app that blocks whole ranges of numbers. It's very effective. I may get one odd call every other month now.

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            I got a robo call, nobody speaks when I answer. I'm bored so I decided to call the number back after hanging up on the robot. Some dude answered, denies it was a robo call (lying I'm sure), and then this starts...

            Me: Nobody appreciates unsolicited calls these days. Telemarketer: This isn't an unsolicited call. It was. They were trying to offer me a "loan" which I'm sure is a scam. Me: Why you are arguing with me dude? Telemarketer: Gets angry... I'm not arguing with you. Few rounds of blah blah blah. Me: Have a nice day. Good bye. Hang up on him while he's going off.

            For the life of me, I can't understand why people do this. Do folks actually fall for this crap? Especially when home dude needs to pull the stick out?

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            kmoorevs
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            I have been the recipient of a phone call from some angry dude wondering why I called his wife...how do you convince someone who just hits redial that your number has been spoofed? :confused: I gave him my neighbor's address and waited but he never showed up. :laugh:

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              I got a robo call, nobody speaks when I answer. I'm bored so I decided to call the number back after hanging up on the robot. Some dude answered, denies it was a robo call (lying I'm sure), and then this starts...

              Me: Nobody appreciates unsolicited calls these days. Telemarketer: This isn't an unsolicited call. It was. They were trying to offer me a "loan" which I'm sure is a scam. Me: Why you are arguing with me dude? Telemarketer: Gets angry... I'm not arguing with you. Few rounds of blah blah blah. Me: Have a nice day. Good bye. Hang up on him while he's going off.

              For the life of me, I can't understand why people do this. Do folks actually fall for this crap? Especially when home dude needs to pull the stick out?

              Jeremy Falcon

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              MarkTJohnson
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              My favorites are the "Windows' Help Desk" ones. It's fun to string them along and then ask what IP address they are getting messages from my machine from. "Hey, YOU called me about this so you should know what my IP address is." Then I get to tell them I'm on a Mac. My public service, keeping these bozos on the line with me keeps them from scamming other people.

              I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                I got a robo call, nobody speaks when I answer. I'm bored so I decided to call the number back after hanging up on the robot. Some dude answered, denies it was a robo call (lying I'm sure), and then this starts...

                Me: Nobody appreciates unsolicited calls these days. Telemarketer: This isn't an unsolicited call. It was. They were trying to offer me a "loan" which I'm sure is a scam. Me: Why you are arguing with me dude? Telemarketer: Gets angry... I'm not arguing with you. Few rounds of blah blah blah. Me: Have a nice day. Good bye. Hang up on him while he's going off.

                For the life of me, I can't understand why people do this. Do folks actually fall for this crap? Especially when home dude needs to pull the stick out?

                Jeremy Falcon

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                I simply don't answer calls from unrecognized numbers. If it's important, they can leave a VM, though I sometimes do a search on the number afterwards to see if it belongs to a business that I've dealt with.

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                • K kmoorevs

                  I have been the recipient of a phone call from some angry dude wondering why I called his wife...how do you convince someone who just hits redial that your number has been spoofed? :confused: I gave him my neighbor's address and waited but he never showed up. :laugh:

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                  kmoorevs wrote:

                  I gave him my neighbor's address and waited but he never showed up

                  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                  • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                    I simply don't answer calls from unrecognized numbers. If it's important, they can leave a VM, though I sometimes do a search on the number afterwards to see if it belongs to a business that I've dealt with.

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    Most of the time I do that too, but I was expecting a doctor's office call. Soooo ya know, living on the edge. :laugh:

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                    • D David Crow

                      Nelek wrote:

                      so blocking the numbers brings not so much.

                      Yeah, the default phone app on my Android is limited to blocking 500 specific numbers. Once that filled up, I ended up just writing a little "blocking" app that blocks whole ranges of numbers. It's very effective. I may get one odd call every other month now.

                      "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                      "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                      "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                      Nelek
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                      I smell an article over there?

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                        I got a robo call, nobody speaks when I answer. I'm bored so I decided to call the number back after hanging up on the robot. Some dude answered, denies it was a robo call (lying I'm sure), and then this starts...

                        Me: Nobody appreciates unsolicited calls these days. Telemarketer: This isn't an unsolicited call. It was. They were trying to offer me a "loan" which I'm sure is a scam. Me: Why you are arguing with me dude? Telemarketer: Gets angry... I'm not arguing with you. Few rounds of blah blah blah. Me: Have a nice day. Good bye. Hang up on him while he's going off.

                        For the life of me, I can't understand why people do this. Do folks actually fall for this crap? Especially when home dude needs to pull the stick out?

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                        jana_hus
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                        since "WE" got 13 party telephone after years of waiting, I still have an issue with people almost running when phone rings... that attitude is now with a twist I am talking to a stranger ,we are both enjoining our morning java and he / she cannot take his /hers eyes off the i-phone ...and if that is not rude , I give up being friendly... ah yes, I used to work for a company who made the telemarketing equipment - you got ONE more reason to flame me...'

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                        • J jana_hus

                          since "WE" got 13 party telephone after years of waiting, I still have an issue with people almost running when phone rings... that attitude is now with a twist I am talking to a stranger ,we are both enjoining our morning java and he / she cannot take his /hers eyes off the i-phone ...and if that is not rude , I give up being friendly... ah yes, I used to work for a company who made the telemarketing equipment - you got ONE more reason to flame me...'

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                          Sounds as if she wasn't that interested.

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                          • J Jeremy Falcon

                            I got a robo call, nobody speaks when I answer. I'm bored so I decided to call the number back after hanging up on the robot. Some dude answered, denies it was a robo call (lying I'm sure), and then this starts...

                            Me: Nobody appreciates unsolicited calls these days. Telemarketer: This isn't an unsolicited call. It was. They were trying to offer me a "loan" which I'm sure is a scam. Me: Why you are arguing with me dude? Telemarketer: Gets angry... I'm not arguing with you. Few rounds of blah blah blah. Me: Have a nice day. Good bye. Hang up on him while he's going off.

                            For the life of me, I can't understand why people do this. Do folks actually fall for this crap? Especially when home dude needs to pull the stick out?

                            Jeremy Falcon

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                            Amarnath S
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                            When I get such robo calls, I chant Sanskrit verses, and the caller gets bored and hangs up. Can recite Sanskrit verses from memory continuously for more than an hour.

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                            • J Jeremy Falcon

                              Most of the time I do that too, but I was expecting a doctor's office call. Soooo ya know, living on the edge. :laugh:

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                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              Soooo ya know, living on the edge.

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                              • M MarkTJohnson

                                My favorites are the "Windows' Help Desk" ones. It's fun to string them along and then ask what IP address they are getting messages from my machine from. "Hey, YOU called me about this so you should know what my IP address is." Then I get to tell them I'm on a Mac. My public service, keeping these bozos on the line with me keeps them from scamming other people.

                                I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                                I had one of those once who gave the usual garbage about my computer showing up as something. So I asked him which computer he meant: Scammer: "the Windows one" Me: "Yes, but which one, I have a number" Scammer: "The one nearest to you" Me: "Ha, ha, not only are you a liar, but you are also very stupid" Scammer (getting angry): "Don't talk to me like that, I am going to disconnect you from the internet" Me: "Good luck, dude". and hung up.

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                                  My favorites are the "Windows' Help Desk" ones. It's fun to string them along and then ask what IP address they are getting messages from my machine from. "Hey, YOU called me about this so you should know what my IP address is." Then I get to tell them I'm on a Mac. My public service, keeping these bozos on the line with me keeps them from scamming other people.

                                  I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                                  If I have time and am feeling bored I employ the tactics below: If they are trying to sell a service, usually insurance cover for electronic equipment, I go through the whole process giving nonsense answers to all questions and agreeing to purchase the most expensive option they offer me and when we get to bank/card details, I explain I don't trust banks and don't have an account, but if they send me a bill in the post, I'll pay it at the post office. Not received one yet ... As an alternative, explain you can't pay yet but will be able to so very soon as you have just used all your available money to facilitate your £32M inheritance from a Nigerian prince. If they are trying to get access to my PC, then I act as if I am using a Vic 20. "Please click the [whatever] icon." "Sorry, what's an icon?" "Tell me what you can see on the screen" "Commodore Basic V2. 3,583 bytes free. Ready." This is usually so far off their script I get transferred to the "supervisor".

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                                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                                    I got a robo call, nobody speaks when I answer. I'm bored so I decided to call the number back after hanging up on the robot. Some dude answered, denies it was a robo call (lying I'm sure), and then this starts...

                                    Me: Nobody appreciates unsolicited calls these days. Telemarketer: This isn't an unsolicited call. It was. They were trying to offer me a "loan" which I'm sure is a scam. Me: Why you are arguing with me dude? Telemarketer: Gets angry... I'm not arguing with you. Few rounds of blah blah blah. Me: Have a nice day. Good bye. Hang up on him while he's going off.

                                    For the life of me, I can't understand why people do this. Do folks actually fall for this crap? Especially when home dude needs to pull the stick out?

                                    Jeremy Falcon

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                                    There was a time where I got multiple spam calls a day, mostly phone and internet providers or gas and electricity companies. One day I got another call and I was fed up. "Hello, this is [name] from company [company name]. Do you mind if I ask you a few questions?" And I kind of lost my shit and said something along the lines of "YES! I DO MIND! You :elephant: ing marketeers have been bugging me daily! :elephant: ing stop it already! I don't want to answer questions, I don't want to talk to you and I don't want to buy your :elephant: ing product! HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IF I CALLED YOU EVERY DAY ON YOUR PRIVATE PHONE!? :mad::mad::mad:" "But sir... You're already a customer and we simply had some questions about our service..." Turned out to be my current phone, TV and internet provider who actually gave me pretty good service :| Luckily, she knew how I felt and we could laugh about it :laugh:

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                                    • A Amarnath S

                                      When I get such robo calls, I chant Sanskrit verses, and the caller gets bored and hangs up. Can recite Sanskrit verses from memory continuously for more than an hour.

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                                      Am not sure that is a good idea as it may be a possibility robo-callers may also be attempting to harvest voice for artificial re-generation which is why I never say more than "hello".

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                                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                                        I got a robo call, nobody speaks when I answer. I'm bored so I decided to call the number back after hanging up on the robot. Some dude answered, denies it was a robo call (lying I'm sure), and then this starts...

                                        Me: Nobody appreciates unsolicited calls these days. Telemarketer: This isn't an unsolicited call. It was. They were trying to offer me a "loan" which I'm sure is a scam. Me: Why you are arguing with me dude? Telemarketer: Gets angry... I'm not arguing with you. Few rounds of blah blah blah. Me: Have a nice day. Good bye. Hang up on him while he's going off.

                                        For the life of me, I can't understand why people do this. Do folks actually fall for this crap? Especially when home dude needs to pull the stick out?

                                        Jeremy Falcon

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                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        Especially when home dude needs to pull the stick out?

                                        When it's a human on the other end on the rare occasion I answer the phone for an unrecognized number, I feel no compunctions about abusing them. It's childish, but I've reached an age [cue irony] where the simple pleasures can be few and far between. Especially on those days when it's a very, very, large stick. Think utility pole.

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                                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                          Especially when home dude needs to pull the stick out?

                                          When it's a human on the other end on the rare occasion I answer the phone for an unrecognized number, I feel no compunctions about abusing them. It's childish, but I've reached an age [cue irony] where the simple pleasures can be few and far between. Especially on those days when it's a very, very, large stick. Think utility pole.

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                                          Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                          I feel no compunctions about abusing them

                                          Not sure if you mean I was abusing him or he was abusing me. But, it's not abusive to tell someone nobody likes unsolicited calls. It's also not abusive to to ask someone why they're arguing. What's abusive is the bozo getting upset, and thus I hung up on him. IMO the problem with society is we're so over emotional and weak that direct conversation seems aggressive. But, IMO it takes more respect to respect people's time and understanding of the situation by telling it like it is. That being said, there are two types of people. Those that will just take it "when someone treats them wrong" and those who won't. I'm not the former.

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