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  • G Gary Wheeler

    I just came across the following comment in some code I need to modify that was written in 2008:

    // This is an ugly little hack. The effect I wanted was for the text box to
    // be the width of the list item, minus the space for the activity type
    // graphic. I also wanted the text box to wrap, and to expand vertically if
    // more space was needed. To get this to work, the MaxWidth property of the
    // box must be set. Unfortunately, due to vagaries in my understanding of
    // the WPF layout process, I don't know the "proper" way to do this so that
    // it is based on the widths and margins of the controls involved. Hence the
    // magic number 48, which is the width of the graphic, plus the margins,
    // plus some fiddle-faddle.

    Sigh :sigh: .

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    I am not sure, given all that explanation, it it still qualifies as a magic number. Even the word 'sin' in heavy handed here, it's not like K&R bracing... runs and hides :laugh:

    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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      I am not sure, given all that explanation, it it still qualifies as a magic number. Even the word 'sin' in heavy handed here, it's not like K&R bracing... runs and hides :laugh:

      "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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      Gary Wheeler
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      jeron1 wrote:

      K&R bracing

      Everyone knows that Allman bracing is The One True Way.

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      • G Gary Wheeler

        jeron1 wrote:

        K&R bracing

        Everyone knows that Allman bracing is The One True Way.

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        jeron1
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        Amen!

        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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        • G Gary Wheeler

          I just came across the following comment in some code I need to modify that was written in 2008:

          // This is an ugly little hack. The effect I wanted was for the text box to
          // be the width of the list item, minus the space for the activity type
          // graphic. I also wanted the text box to wrap, and to expand vertically if
          // more space was needed. To get this to work, the MaxWidth property of the
          // box must be set. Unfortunately, due to vagaries in my understanding of
          // the WPF layout process, I don't know the "proper" way to do this so that
          // it is based on the widths and margins of the controls involved. Hence the
          // magic number 48, which is the width of the graphic, plus the margins,
          // plus some fiddle-faddle.

          Sigh :sigh: .

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          RickZeeland
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          Some music with that: Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band - The River (Live in Glastonbury, 2009) - YouTube[^]

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          • G Gary Wheeler

            I just came across the following comment in some code I need to modify that was written in 2008:

            // This is an ugly little hack. The effect I wanted was for the text box to
            // be the width of the list item, minus the space for the activity type
            // graphic. I also wanted the text box to wrap, and to expand vertically if
            // more space was needed. To get this to work, the MaxWidth property of the
            // box must be set. Unfortunately, due to vagaries in my understanding of
            // the WPF layout process, I don't know the "proper" way to do this so that
            // it is based on the widths and margins of the controls involved. Hence the
            // magic number 48, which is the width of the graphic, plus the margins,
            // plus some fiddle-faddle.

            Sigh :sigh: .

            Software Zen: delete this;

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            0x01AA
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            Thank you very much, I'm so relieved, that I'm not the only one. I think after 30 years I can fill much more than 50 pages of such comments :-O The only excuse I have; it was always just to satisfy the customer. But that doesn't really help when you come across it again :sigh:

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            • G Gary Wheeler

              jeron1 wrote:

              K&R bracing

              Everyone knows that Allman bracing is The One True Way.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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              honey the codewitch
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              I prefer K&R in C and C++ I prefer Allman in C# and most other high level languages. Don't ask me why. I think it's just because I've gotten so used to *reading* code in those formats that I write it in those formats.

              Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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              • G Gary Wheeler

                I just came across the following comment in some code I need to modify that was written in 2008:

                // This is an ugly little hack. The effect I wanted was for the text box to
                // be the width of the list item, minus the space for the activity type
                // graphic. I also wanted the text box to wrap, and to expand vertically if
                // more space was needed. To get this to work, the MaxWidth property of the
                // box must be set. Unfortunately, due to vagaries in my understanding of
                // the WPF layout process, I don't know the "proper" way to do this so that
                // it is based on the widths and margins of the controls involved. Hence the
                // magic number 48, which is the width of the graphic, plus the margins,
                // plus some fiddle-faddle.

                Sigh :sigh: .

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                I mean, at least there was a comment about it... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                Jeremy Falcon

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                • G Gary Wheeler

                  I just came across the following comment in some code I need to modify that was written in 2008:

                  // This is an ugly little hack. The effect I wanted was for the text box to
                  // be the width of the list item, minus the space for the activity type
                  // graphic. I also wanted the text box to wrap, and to expand vertically if
                  // more space was needed. To get this to work, the MaxWidth property of the
                  // box must be set. Unfortunately, due to vagaries in my understanding of
                  // the WPF layout process, I don't know the "proper" way to do this so that
                  // it is based on the widths and margins of the controls involved. Hence the
                  // magic number 48, which is the width of the graphic, plus the margins,
                  // plus some fiddle-faddle.

                  Sigh :sigh: .

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  MarkTJohnson
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                  But do you now know the "proper" way to do this and will you fix the issue?

                  I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                  • H honey the codewitch

                    I prefer K&R in C and C++ I prefer Allman in C# and most other high level languages. Don't ask me why. I think it's just because I've gotten so used to *reading* code in those formats that I write it in those formats.

                    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                    Gary R Wheeler
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                    I was a K&R guy until I started using C#. I use blank lines in my code to separate conceptual 'blocks'. It also helps reading code with my visual issues. Allman bracing provides that separation a lot of times without introducing extra vertical space. Using Allman for both languages just seems more natural for me now. One of the reasons I keep VS2008 around is the macro language. I have a macro that does 99% of the work converting from K&R to Allman, without rewrapping text and expressions like the Visual Studio reformatters tend to do.

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                      Thank you very much, I'm so relieved, that I'm not the only one. I think after 30 years I can fill much more than 50 pages of such comments :-O The only excuse I have; it was always just to satisfy the customer. But that doesn't really help when you come across it again :sigh:

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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      I've always liked something Dan Saks, onetime Secretary of the ANSI/ISO C++ Standards Committee, once said: "If you can say it in code, then do so. Otherwise, say it in a comment." To my mind that means comments should usually describe the why or the how code is doing something, and rarely what. My longer-winded comments are usually 'why'.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • J Jeremy Falcon

                        I mean, at least there was a comment about it... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                        Jeremy Falcon

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                        Gary R Wheeler
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                        I think I had foreknowledge(*) how dotty I would be in my old age. (*) Cue the obvious Dune reference; "He who controls the spice, controls the universe!"

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        • G Gary R Wheeler

                          I was a K&R guy until I started using C#. I use blank lines in my code to separate conceptual 'blocks'. It also helps reading code with my visual issues. Allman bracing provides that separation a lot of times without introducing extra vertical space. Using Allman for both languages just seems more natural for me now. One of the reasons I keep VS2008 around is the macro language. I have a macro that does 99% of the work converting from K&R to Allman, without rewrapping text and expressions like the Visual Studio reformatters tend to do.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          You can do that with VS Code as well. It's a bit fiddly to change the C/C++ bracing and indent styles, but nothing a little google fu can't clear up. Then you just hit "Format Document" and bob's your uncle. I guess since I'm used to using different case styles for different languages, it's not as much of a stretch for me to adapt to different bracing? For me, C and C++ just seem more "natural" in K&R and C# just seems more natural to me in Allman. Feel and flow for me - the final form is just easier for me if I do it this way. I don't know WHY C# would be different than C or C++ for me that way, except exposure. I'm so used to seeing Allman C# and K&R C/C++ that it's familiar to me. That must be it, I think.

                          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                            But do you now know the "proper" way to do this and will you fix the issue?

                            I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                            Gary R Wheeler
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                            I have reached the stage in my career (3.75 years until retirement), plus given my typical workload, that fixing this would be a poor use of my time. It works well enough and has never caused an issue. Besides, given how little love Microsoft has given WPF over the years, I doubt there is a better way to do it :rolleyes: .

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            • G Gary Wheeler

                              I just came across the following comment in some code I need to modify that was written in 2008:

                              // This is an ugly little hack. The effect I wanted was for the text box to
                              // be the width of the list item, minus the space for the activity type
                              // graphic. I also wanted the text box to wrap, and to expand vertically if
                              // more space was needed. To get this to work, the MaxWidth property of the
                              // box must be set. Unfortunately, due to vagaries in my understanding of
                              // the WPF layout process, I don't know the "proper" way to do this so that
                              // it is based on the widths and margins of the controls involved. Hence the
                              // magic number 48, which is the width of the graphic, plus the margins,
                              // plus some fiddle-faddle.

                              Sigh :sigh: .

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              Amarnath S
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                              Gary Wheeler wrote:

                              magic number 48

                              Isn't it 42?

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                              • G Gary Wheeler

                                I just came across the following comment in some code I need to modify that was written in 2008:

                                // This is an ugly little hack. The effect I wanted was for the text box to
                                // be the width of the list item, minus the space for the activity type
                                // graphic. I also wanted the text box to wrap, and to expand vertically if
                                // more space was needed. To get this to work, the MaxWidth property of the
                                // box must be set. Unfortunately, due to vagaries in my understanding of
                                // the WPF layout process, I don't know the "proper" way to do this so that
                                // it is based on the widths and margins of the controls involved. Hence the
                                // magic number 48, which is the width of the graphic, plus the margins,
                                // plus some fiddle-faddle.

                                Sigh :sigh: .

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                obermd
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                                This is actually a really good comment. It explains both the why and the what/how. I wouldn't call this a sin, but rather a reminder of why you did something the way you did.

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                                • G Gary Wheeler

                                  I just came across the following comment in some code I need to modify that was written in 2008:

                                  // This is an ugly little hack. The effect I wanted was for the text box to
                                  // be the width of the list item, minus the space for the activity type
                                  // graphic. I also wanted the text box to wrap, and to expand vertically if
                                  // more space was needed. To get this to work, the MaxWidth property of the
                                  // box must be set. Unfortunately, due to vagaries in my understanding of
                                  // the WPF layout process, I don't know the "proper" way to do this so that
                                  // it is based on the widths and margins of the controls involved. Hence the
                                  // magic number 48, which is the width of the graphic, plus the margins,
                                  // plus some fiddle-faddle.

                                  Sigh :sigh: .

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  jmaida
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                                  Allman almost all the time.

                                  "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                  • G Gary Wheeler

                                    I just came across the following comment in some code I need to modify that was written in 2008:

                                    // This is an ugly little hack. The effect I wanted was for the text box to
                                    // be the width of the list item, minus the space for the activity type
                                    // graphic. I also wanted the text box to wrap, and to expand vertically if
                                    // more space was needed. To get this to work, the MaxWidth property of the
                                    // box must be set. Unfortunately, due to vagaries in my understanding of
                                    // the WPF layout process, I don't know the "proper" way to do this so that
                                    // it is based on the widths and margins of the controls involved. Hence the
                                    // magic number 48, which is the width of the graphic, plus the margins,
                                    // plus some fiddle-faddle.

                                    Sigh :sigh: .

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    CPallini
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                                    Well, that is a pretty informative and honest comment.

                                    "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                                    • G Gary Wheeler

                                      jeron1 wrote:

                                      K&R bracing

                                      Everyone knows that Allman bracing is The One True Way.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      I'd never heard of Allman bracing but having looked it up it's what I use in C and C#

                                      In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                        I'd never heard of Allman bracing but having looked it up it's what I use in C and C#

                                        In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                        theoldfool
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                                        +1

                                        >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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                                        • H honey the codewitch

                                          You can do that with VS Code as well. It's a bit fiddly to change the C/C++ bracing and indent styles, but nothing a little google fu can't clear up. Then you just hit "Format Document" and bob's your uncle. I guess since I'm used to using different case styles for different languages, it's not as much of a stretch for me to adapt to different bracing? For me, C and C++ just seem more "natural" in K&R and C# just seems more natural to me in Allman. Feel and flow for me - the final form is just easier for me if I do it this way. I don't know WHY C# would be different than C or C++ for me that way, except exposure. I'm so used to seeing Allman C# and K&R C/C++ that it's familiar to me. That must be it, I think.

                                          Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                                          Gary R Wheeler
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                                          Ain't it wonderful how it can work either way, and the machine doesn't care? Makes you wonder how The Brace Wars ever got started...

                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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