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Dave S wrote: Of course, my Buddy had the bad Mustang (1969 with a big 427 and 2 carbs). The Standard 69 came with a your choice of one of the following: 2bbl 200 cid inline 6 2bbl 302 2bbl 351w 4bbl 351w 2bbl 351c 4bbl 351c The Mach 1 was available with: 4bbl 351w 4bbl 351c The "Boss" Mustangs had: 4bbl Boss 302 (4-bolt mains, lower deck height and boss heads) 4bbl Boss 429 In the Shelby: 4bbl 302 4bbl 428 No other motors were available, and no multiple-card options were available direct from the factory. If your buddy had a 427 in a 69, it was a motor swap, and if he had dual quads, it was aftermarket. :) ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
I knew it was a motor swap! I helped him with it. The motor was originally a 390, but his mechanic hogged out the cylinders and put 427 pistons in it. Radical overbore (.100, most overbores go .030 -.060). Was prone to overheating as well. He couldn't afford a true 427 block. BTW, the original motor in his car was a 351W. The intake was a factory dual carb intake, just not for that year car. I don't remember if it was the low rise or medium rise intake. It's been 20 years... His car was the baddest of the Fords in my area. He just spent a pile of time working on it and never got to run it much... My other "hero" at the time was a mechanic with a '71 Mach 1, with a modified 351 Cleveland. This guy would just show up, kinda like Clint Eastwood (insert whistle here), destroy the bad guys (read chevy) and disappear into the night. ** Sigh ** I miss being 21 again... Geez, next I'm gonna get maudlin about cruizin and hangin out in .... Oh well. "It takes a minimum of redesign to turn a crucifix into a pogo stick"
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Nice car, but the value is way down because of the changes he made. Here's two I used to have.[^] ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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I knew it was a motor swap! I helped him with it. The motor was originally a 390, but his mechanic hogged out the cylinders and put 427 pistons in it. Radical overbore (.100, most overbores go .030 -.060). Was prone to overheating as well. He couldn't afford a true 427 block. BTW, the original motor in his car was a 351W. The intake was a factory dual carb intake, just not for that year car. I don't remember if it was the low rise or medium rise intake. It's been 20 years... His car was the baddest of the Fords in my area. He just spent a pile of time working on it and never got to run it much... My other "hero" at the time was a mechanic with a '71 Mach 1, with a modified 351 Cleveland. This guy would just show up, kinda like Clint Eastwood (insert whistle here), destroy the bad guys (read chevy) and disappear into the night. ** Sigh ** I miss being 21 again... Geez, next I'm gonna get maudlin about cruizin and hangin out in .... Oh well. "It takes a minimum of redesign to turn a crucifix into a pogo stick"
I had friends with scary-fast fords - a 72 fastback with a 460/4 spd, two guys that each owned a factory stock 427 SOHC Thunderbolt Fairlane, a couple of guys with Talladega Torinos, a crap-load of guys with Boss 302's, Boss 429's, Sheby's, Cobras (big and small blocks), and even a few that had GT-40's. We even had a couple of guys with v-8 Pintos and supercharged V-8 Mustang-2's, and one guy with a Ford 427 side-oiler stuffed into a '68 Camaro, and another guy witha Boss 429 in a Ford Esquire station wagon. I ran with a VERY fast crowd. Those were the days when speed was measured in cubic inches and mechanical ability instead of bolt-on pre-fab goodies and decals. Those of us "in the know" were cautious of cars that were solid gray or red primer. :) ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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I had friends with scary-fast fords - a 72 fastback with a 460/4 spd, two guys that each owned a factory stock 427 SOHC Thunderbolt Fairlane, a couple of guys with Talladega Torinos, a crap-load of guys with Boss 302's, Boss 429's, Sheby's, Cobras (big and small blocks), and even a few that had GT-40's. We even had a couple of guys with v-8 Pintos and supercharged V-8 Mustang-2's, and one guy with a Ford 427 side-oiler stuffed into a '68 Camaro, and another guy witha Boss 429 in a Ford Esquire station wagon. I ran with a VERY fast crowd. Those were the days when speed was measured in cubic inches and mechanical ability instead of bolt-on pre-fab goodies and decals. Those of us "in the know" were cautious of cars that were solid gray or red primer. :) ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
Before I sold my 72 to Get married, I had put a 460 built from a shop in Memphis (associated with Crane Cams), a Beefed up C6 Transmission, and tubbed out with 6 pt roll cage and 4.56 gears. My one run down a local 8th mile track here was awful, because the tires spun the full 8th mile. However, at that point, It was no longer fun to play with, cuz I ran out of money in midstream, and some bad decisions were made (460 with cobbled together motor mounts to make it fit, couldn't find the right motor mounts). Engine in wrong, heat causing the starter to lock up, etc, etc. Now I can hop up my 2000GT again, but I won't be going that radical. I dig the guy with the Boss 429 Wagon. Reminds me of my other dream ride, a guy in CarCraft magazine dropped a 427SOHC into a '61 Galaxy Starliner. What a rocket. (What a SLED!). "It takes a minimum of redesign to turn a crucifix into a pogo stick"
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Now that is one good looking Mustang. It's nothing like the utter design failure produced today. Am I the only one that believes the Mustang has become uglier through the years? -- I am on fire. Do you need a light?
The 60's and 70's Shelby editions really kick ass!! They were biult with 289ci. HiPo engines and also the bog dog 428ci. Cobra Jet , and the 429ci Super Cobra Jet. I saw a GT 350H that was made for Hertz Rent A Car that was restored, an elderly couple was driving it in Torrance CA. I'm hoping that someday Ford will re-produce these Muscle Mustangs, and offer them at a reasonable price. Tony
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http://www.doublenickels.com/page76.html[^] Regards Thomas
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http://popularmechanics.com/automotive/sub_coll_vintage/1998/6/67_shelby_mustang/[^] Does anyone know of any other?? Tony
The shelby was a pretty cool car, this coming from a GM guy. 2TallTony wrote: Does anyone know of any other?? 50th Anniversary Corvette [^] Z06 Corvette [^] McLaren F1 [^] McLaren F1 [^] Just about everything from the Monster Garage[^] For the sake of brevity I'm gonna stop there. I could go on for days listing the individual cars. Matt Newman
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The 60's and 70's Shelby editions really kick ass!! They were biult with 289ci. HiPo engines and also the bog dog 428ci. Cobra Jet , and the 429ci Super Cobra Jet. I saw a GT 350H that was made for Hertz Rent A Car that was restored, an elderly couple was driving it in Torrance CA. I'm hoping that someday Ford will re-produce these Muscle Mustangs, and offer them at a reasonable price. Tony
The Shelby never came with a 429. 65 was only available with a 289 (GT-350 and GT-350R) 66 was only available with a 289 (GT-350 and GT-350H), but you could order one with a supercharger (very rare) 67 came with a 289 (GT-350), a 427 (GT-500), or a 428 (also a GT-500) - 428 wasn't nearly as stout as the 427 68 came with a 302 (GT-350), 427 (early models) and 428 (GT-500), or 428CJ (GT-500KR) 69, and 70 came with a 302 or 351w (GT-350), or 428CJ (GT-500) The '70 models were simply left over 69's with cosmetic and VIN changes. The SCJ was used in Torinos and Marauders. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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The Shelby never came with a 429. 65 was only available with a 289 (GT-350 and GT-350R) 66 was only available with a 289 (GT-350 and GT-350H), but you could order one with a supercharger (very rare) 67 came with a 289 (GT-350), a 427 (GT-500), or a 428 (also a GT-500) - 428 wasn't nearly as stout as the 427 68 came with a 302 (GT-350), 427 (early models) and 428 (GT-500), or 428CJ (GT-500KR) 69, and 70 came with a 302 or 351w (GT-350), or 428CJ (GT-500) The '70 models were simply left over 69's with cosmetic and VIN changes. The SCJ was used in Torinos and Marauders. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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Didn't the 429SCJ also come in 71 Mustangs with the Drag Pack Option? (Mach1, not Shelby, since 70 was their last year...) "It takes a minimum of redesign to turn a crucifix into a pogo stick"
A handful of 71 Mach 1's were equpped with the scj motor. Not all were dragpack. The Mach 1's went all the way to 1973. More accurately, Shelby's last new car was made for the 69 model year. the 70 models were simply left over 69's with the trim updated and had the vin numbers changed. Shelby's didn't have a 429 option. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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The Shelby never came with a 429. 65 was only available with a 289 (GT-350 and GT-350R) 66 was only available with a 289 (GT-350 and GT-350H), but you could order one with a supercharger (very rare) 67 came with a 289 (GT-350), a 427 (GT-500), or a 428 (also a GT-500) - 428 wasn't nearly as stout as the 427 68 came with a 302 (GT-350), 427 (early models) and 428 (GT-500), or 428CJ (GT-500KR) 69, and 70 came with a 302 or 351w (GT-350), or 428CJ (GT-500) The '70 models were simply left over 69's with cosmetic and VIN changes. The SCJ was used in Torinos and Marauders. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 "You won't like me when I'm angry..." - Dr. Bruce Banner Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
