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From SD Magazine... Java vs C++

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  • L Lost User

    This guy's a Java bigot, but I thought some might be interested in what he's spouting (brewing?) in public: http://www.sdtimes.com/cols/javawatch.htm Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net

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    He said that 800 Mhz comps are cheap these days which is true but why should a developer force it's user base to upgrade if they don't need to? All of the software I have made for myself I created on a 700 celeron and I have run it without degradation on 166Mhz and less! Besides I tried java once just to make a simple web applet and there is no uniformity to it. But I guess it just goes to show that crack kills. -Matt Newman :suss:

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      He said that 800 Mhz comps are cheap these days which is true but why should a developer force it's user base to upgrade if they don't need to? All of the software I have made for myself I created on a 700 celeron and I have run it without degradation on 166Mhz and less! Besides I tried java once just to make a simple web applet and there is no uniformity to it. But I guess it just goes to show that crack kills. -Matt Newman :suss:

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      Lost User
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      Well said! :-D - Thomas

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      • L Lost User

        This guy's a Java bigot, but I thought some might be interested in what he's spouting (brewing?) in public: http://www.sdtimes.com/cols/javawatch.htm Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net

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        Paulo
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        Glad to read all that you all have said :-D Reading that article for a moment i thought i was in another planet ... :eek: By the way what the hell is wrong with the press??? Anybody knows that java just stinks. Why the hell is the propaganda for? :mad: The press is supposed to tell the truth, isn't it?

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          Glad to read all that you all have said :-D Reading that article for a moment i thought i was in another planet ... :eek: By the way what the hell is wrong with the press??? Anybody knows that java just stinks. Why the hell is the propaganda for? :mad: The press is supposed to tell the truth, isn't it?

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          David Wulff
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          The press is supposed to tell the truth, isn't it? Woah - where did you hear that? The press doesn't care about truth, they care about readership and money. Truth doesn't come into it. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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          • L Lost User

            This guy's a Java bigot, but I thought some might be interested in what he's spouting (brewing?) in public: http://www.sdtimes.com/cols/javawatch.htm Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net

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            Stan Shannon
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            I have always wanted to program in Java simply as a change of pace from C++ and to see what it was like to work in a "pure" OO language. However, my experience was the same as every listed here. Not only that but I have used several web based applications programed in Java and they were simply unusable. Not just slow, but with absolutely laughable UI. On the bright side, consider that sooner or later the world *must* rediscover C/C++ (unless C# turns out to be trully remarkable technology). When that happens this crowd will be in tall cotton. "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.

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            • L Lost User

              This guy's a Java bigot, but I thought some might be interested in what he's spouting (brewing?) in public: http://www.sdtimes.com/cols/javawatch.htm Steven J. Ackerman, Consultant ACS, Sarasota, FL http://www.acscontrol.com steve@acscontrol.com sja@gte.net

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              Ravi Bhavnani
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              - "somehow, Java would become the No. 1 programming language in the world" - "Java programmers aren’t just writing applets, it seems." - "is there a C programmer alive who hasn’t ripped his or her hair out over something that should be as simple as debugging a double-linked list" <sigh> Obviously the article is aimed at non-programmers. /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com

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              • D David Wulff

                The press is supposed to tell the truth, isn't it? Woah - where did you hear that? The press doesn't care about truth, they care about readership and money. Truth doesn't come into it. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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                Ravi Bhavnani
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                Bingo! :) /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com

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                • S Stan Shannon

                  I have always wanted to program in Java simply as a change of pace from C++ and to see what it was like to work in a "pure" OO language. However, my experience was the same as every listed here. Not only that but I have used several web based applications programed in Java and they were simply unusable. Not just slow, but with absolutely laughable UI. On the bright side, consider that sooner or later the world *must* rediscover C/C++ (unless C# turns out to be trully remarkable technology). When that happens this crowd will be in tall cotton. "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.

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                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                  I think you may have extraneous CRLFs in your sig. It can make your replies harder to read. /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com

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                  • R Ravi Bhavnani

                    I think you may have extraneous CRLFs in your sig. It can make your replies harder to read. /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com

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                    Stan Shannon
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                    Sorry, looked fine on my 21" monitor.:-O "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.

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                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                      - "somehow, Java would become the No. 1 programming language in the world" - "Java programmers aren’t just writing applets, it seems." - "is there a C programmer alive who hasn’t ripped his or her hair out over something that should be as simple as debugging a double-linked list" <sigh> Obviously the article is aimed at non-programmers. /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com

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                      Stan Shannon
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                      Yeah, I really spend a lot of time on those pesky double-linked list these days.:) "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.

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                      • S Stan Shannon

                        Yeah, I really spend a lot of time on those pesky double-linked list these days.:) "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.

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                        Matt Newman
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                        never used (at least consciously) a list let alone double-linked it. I kind of wonder if this guy is even a programmer. -Matt Newman :suss:

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