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  • A AntiAlias

    If any MS buttheads are listening, go see if you can find the incompetent asshole responsible for the 'Windows XP Application Compatibility ANALyzer. This low-grade shareware quality piece of s&%t is supposed to test an app's readiness for inclusion in the 'Windows Catalog'. A do-nothing MFC app (MFC 7.1) causes a number of errors in the Obsolete API category... but that's only a hint of the fun that's about to start. I tried running a non-trivial app with this joke of a test tool. It wouldn't run at all - but not because it failed a compatibility test (no test other than the obsolete API was selected, and the app uses none, except those included in the MFC code). Experiments indicate the reason it wouldn't run is that a folder in the path, and the app name itself, have spaces in them. The 'tool', if one was to so glorify this piece of puke, is apparently unable to deal with this test of programming skills. But wait - that's only the start. Since the failed attempt to run said app under the Compatibility ANALyzer, it now won't run at all. Apparently a registry/system modification is made by the ANALyzer such that all attempts to run said app will log ANALyzer data. But since the ANALyzer is incapable of dealing with a space in the path, it is now impossible to run said app at all - either through the VS.NET 2003 IDE, or even by double clicking the file in Windows Explorer. I removed the app entry from the ANALyzer's list, to no avail. I've uninstalled the ANALyzer and the modifications remain in place. I've searched the likely locations in the registry to try and find the offending entry, with no luck. So not only does the tool not work for s$&t, it now prevents me from (apparently) ever running that app/working on that project again, unless (it seems) I re-format my HD and re-install everything. Oh yeah, I'm going to try that again! Ask me if I f#$%*&g care about inclusion in the goddamn Windows f^^&$#g Catalog!!! At this point, I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux.

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    AntiAlias wrote: I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux. Then do it! Its obviously MS's fault, so just switch to l00nix and become l337.

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      And which would you suggest? The soapbox seemed a bit too obscure.

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      David Wulff
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      The Soap Box would have been fine. :confused:


      David Wulff

      "Yeah, ohh, ahh. That's how it always starts. But then later there's running, and screaming." -- Jeff Goldblum, The Lost World.

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        AntiAlias wrote: I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux. Then do it! Its obviously MS's fault, so just switch to l00nix and become l337.

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        AntiAlias
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        dratti wrote: Its obviously MS's fault If you're so confident that MS is blameless in this, I suggest you go give this ANALyzer a whirl. Make sure you select an app you've spent a considerable amount of time working on, and make sure the app name has a space in it.

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          dratti wrote: Its obviously MS's fault If you're so confident that MS is blameless in this, I suggest you go give this ANALyzer a whirl. Make sure you select an app you've spent a considerable amount of time working on, and make sure the app name has a space in it.

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          Matt Newman
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          AntiAlias wrote: If you're so confident that MS is blameless If your so confident that MS isn't so blameless why are you posting this on a Windows Developer website. This would be better troll bait it it were posted on slashdot. Matt Newman
          Sonork: 100:11179 "Jokes should at least try to be intelligent - this is just toilet humor" - Heath Stewart

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          • A AntiAlias

            If any MS buttheads are listening, go see if you can find the incompetent asshole responsible for the 'Windows XP Application Compatibility ANALyzer. This low-grade shareware quality piece of s&%t is supposed to test an app's readiness for inclusion in the 'Windows Catalog'. A do-nothing MFC app (MFC 7.1) causes a number of errors in the Obsolete API category... but that's only a hint of the fun that's about to start. I tried running a non-trivial app with this joke of a test tool. It wouldn't run at all - but not because it failed a compatibility test (no test other than the obsolete API was selected, and the app uses none, except those included in the MFC code). Experiments indicate the reason it wouldn't run is that a folder in the path, and the app name itself, have spaces in them. The 'tool', if one was to so glorify this piece of puke, is apparently unable to deal with this test of programming skills. But wait - that's only the start. Since the failed attempt to run said app under the Compatibility ANALyzer, it now won't run at all. Apparently a registry/system modification is made by the ANALyzer such that all attempts to run said app will log ANALyzer data. But since the ANALyzer is incapable of dealing with a space in the path, it is now impossible to run said app at all - either through the VS.NET 2003 IDE, or even by double clicking the file in Windows Explorer. I removed the app entry from the ANALyzer's list, to no avail. I've uninstalled the ANALyzer and the modifications remain in place. I've searched the likely locations in the registry to try and find the offending entry, with no luck. So not only does the tool not work for s$&t, it now prevents me from (apparently) ever running that app/working on that project again, unless (it seems) I re-format my HD and re-install everything. Oh yeah, I'm going to try that again! Ask me if I f#$%*&g care about inclusion in the goddamn Windows f^^&$#g Catalog!!! At this point, I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux.

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            brianwelsch
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            Psst....look up The Lounge is rated PG. If you're about to post something you wouldn't want your kid sister to read then don't post it. Good Luck with Linux, you've got a HUGE market there. BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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            • A AntiAlias

              And which would you suggest? The soapbox seemed a bit too obscure.

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              Anders Molin
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              AntiAlias wrote: And which would you suggest? The Soapbox! - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" http://SourceLocker.net[^] SourceControl and DefectTracker Project. nsms@spyf.dk <- Spam Collecting ;)

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              • D David Wulff

                The Soap Box would have been fine. :confused:


                David Wulff

                "Yeah, ohh, ahh. That's how it always starts. But then later there's running, and screaming." -- Jeff Goldblum, The Lost World.

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                brianwelsch
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                I think he meant obscure, as in, he couldn't find it. :~ :) BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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                  AntiAlias wrote: If you're so confident that MS is blameless If your so confident that MS isn't so blameless why are you posting this on a Windows Developer website. This would be better troll bait it it were posted on slashdot. Matt Newman
                  Sonork: 100:11179 "Jokes should at least try to be intelligent - this is just toilet humor" - Heath Stewart

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                  AntiAlias
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                  You're right. It's clearly more important to avoid offending CPers than it is to alert them (albeit a bit stridently) to a buggy dev tool.

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                    Psst....look up The Lounge is rated PG. If you're about to post something you wouldn't want your kid sister to read then don't post it. Good Luck with Linux, you've got a HUGE market there. BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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                    AntiAlias
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                    Actually, I thought I'd done a fairly good job of censoring, considering how pissed off I am.

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                      You're right. It's clearly more important to avoid offending CPers than it is to alert them (albeit a bit stridently) to a buggy dev tool.

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                      Maximilien
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                      There's a way to alert us than posting a rant ...


                      Maximilien Lincourt "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with backup tapes." ("Computer Networks" by Andrew S Tannenbaum )

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                      • A AntiAlias

                        dratti wrote: Its obviously MS's fault If you're so confident that MS is blameless in this, I suggest you go give this ANALyzer a whirl. Make sure you select an app you've spent a considerable amount of time working on, and make sure the app name has a space in it.

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                        dratti
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                        Hey, I dont care about the analyzer or who's fault it is. If its causing you soooo much trouble just stop using it. You seem to literally be in pain about using it, so just dont. If you think linux can do the job better, why *not* use it? Yeah you are obviously frusterated (dont worry, linux will never frusterate you) but a long rant on a primarily windows developers website isnt helping anyone. Either state your problem and ask for help, or just alert people of the true bug. No need for drama. Whats the big deal?

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                        • A AntiAlias

                          If any MS buttheads are listening, go see if you can find the incompetent asshole responsible for the 'Windows XP Application Compatibility ANALyzer. This low-grade shareware quality piece of s&%t is supposed to test an app's readiness for inclusion in the 'Windows Catalog'. A do-nothing MFC app (MFC 7.1) causes a number of errors in the Obsolete API category... but that's only a hint of the fun that's about to start. I tried running a non-trivial app with this joke of a test tool. It wouldn't run at all - but not because it failed a compatibility test (no test other than the obsolete API was selected, and the app uses none, except those included in the MFC code). Experiments indicate the reason it wouldn't run is that a folder in the path, and the app name itself, have spaces in them. The 'tool', if one was to so glorify this piece of puke, is apparently unable to deal with this test of programming skills. But wait - that's only the start. Since the failed attempt to run said app under the Compatibility ANALyzer, it now won't run at all. Apparently a registry/system modification is made by the ANALyzer such that all attempts to run said app will log ANALyzer data. But since the ANALyzer is incapable of dealing with a space in the path, it is now impossible to run said app at all - either through the VS.NET 2003 IDE, or even by double clicking the file in Windows Explorer. I removed the app entry from the ANALyzer's list, to no avail. I've uninstalled the ANALyzer and the modifications remain in place. I've searched the likely locations in the registry to try and find the offending entry, with no luck. So not only does the tool not work for s$&t, it now prevents me from (apparently) ever running that app/working on that project again, unless (it seems) I re-format my HD and re-install everything. Oh yeah, I'm going to try that again! Ask me if I f#$%*&g care about inclusion in the goddamn Windows f^^&$#g Catalog!!! At this point, I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux.

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic
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                          AntiAlias wrote: At this point, I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux. Do that, and I'm sure you're going to love ddd, (x)emacs, make, rpm (especially this one - it is soooo reliable), tcl/tk, GCC (its compilation speed is great - you'll have plenty of time for browsing the internet). But best of all, you are going to make big bucks :)

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                            Psst....look up The Lounge is rated PG. If you're about to post something you wouldn't want your kid sister to read then don't post it. Good Luck with Linux, you've got a HUGE market there. BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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                            Radoslav Bielik
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                            brianwelsch wrote: Good Luck with Linux, you've got a HUGE market there. :laugh: Sorry, couldn't resist Rado

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                              If any MS buttheads are listening, go see if you can find the incompetent asshole responsible for the 'Windows XP Application Compatibility ANALyzer. This low-grade shareware quality piece of s&%t is supposed to test an app's readiness for inclusion in the 'Windows Catalog'. A do-nothing MFC app (MFC 7.1) causes a number of errors in the Obsolete API category... but that's only a hint of the fun that's about to start. I tried running a non-trivial app with this joke of a test tool. It wouldn't run at all - but not because it failed a compatibility test (no test other than the obsolete API was selected, and the app uses none, except those included in the MFC code). Experiments indicate the reason it wouldn't run is that a folder in the path, and the app name itself, have spaces in them. The 'tool', if one was to so glorify this piece of puke, is apparently unable to deal with this test of programming skills. But wait - that's only the start. Since the failed attempt to run said app under the Compatibility ANALyzer, it now won't run at all. Apparently a registry/system modification is made by the ANALyzer such that all attempts to run said app will log ANALyzer data. But since the ANALyzer is incapable of dealing with a space in the path, it is now impossible to run said app at all - either through the VS.NET 2003 IDE, or even by double clicking the file in Windows Explorer. I removed the app entry from the ANALyzer's list, to no avail. I've uninstalled the ANALyzer and the modifications remain in place. I've searched the likely locations in the registry to try and find the offending entry, with no luck. So not only does the tool not work for s$&t, it now prevents me from (apparently) ever running that app/working on that project again, unless (it seems) I re-format my HD and re-install everything. Oh yeah, I'm going to try that again! Ask me if I f#$%*&g care about inclusion in the goddamn Windows f^^&$#g Catalog!!! At this point, I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux.

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                              rondalescott
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                              Wow, just what I want to walk in to first thing Monday morning--a profane, obscene post ranting in a most offensive manner. Sorry, but I can't be bothered to filter through the filth and try to get to the actual content of the post (if indeed there is any).

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                                If any MS buttheads are listening, go see if you can find the incompetent asshole responsible for the 'Windows XP Application Compatibility ANALyzer. This low-grade shareware quality piece of s&%t is supposed to test an app's readiness for inclusion in the 'Windows Catalog'. A do-nothing MFC app (MFC 7.1) causes a number of errors in the Obsolete API category... but that's only a hint of the fun that's about to start. I tried running a non-trivial app with this joke of a test tool. It wouldn't run at all - but not because it failed a compatibility test (no test other than the obsolete API was selected, and the app uses none, except those included in the MFC code). Experiments indicate the reason it wouldn't run is that a folder in the path, and the app name itself, have spaces in them. The 'tool', if one was to so glorify this piece of puke, is apparently unable to deal with this test of programming skills. But wait - that's only the start. Since the failed attempt to run said app under the Compatibility ANALyzer, it now won't run at all. Apparently a registry/system modification is made by the ANALyzer such that all attempts to run said app will log ANALyzer data. But since the ANALyzer is incapable of dealing with a space in the path, it is now impossible to run said app at all - either through the VS.NET 2003 IDE, or even by double clicking the file in Windows Explorer. I removed the app entry from the ANALyzer's list, to no avail. I've uninstalled the ANALyzer and the modifications remain in place. I've searched the likely locations in the registry to try and find the offending entry, with no luck. So not only does the tool not work for s$&t, it now prevents me from (apparently) ever running that app/working on that project again, unless (it seems) I re-format my HD and re-install everything. Oh yeah, I'm going to try that again! Ask me if I f#$%*&g care about inclusion in the goddamn Windows f^^&$#g Catalog!!! At this point, I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux.

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                                So, man: What are you complaining about??? Application Compatibility ANALyzer did the job purfectly: Your application is not compatible and will never be included in 'Windows Catalog'. "...Ability to type is not enough to become a Programmer. Unless you type in VB. But then again you have to type really fast..." Me

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                                  If any MS buttheads are listening, go see if you can find the incompetent asshole responsible for the 'Windows XP Application Compatibility ANALyzer. This low-grade shareware quality piece of s&%t is supposed to test an app's readiness for inclusion in the 'Windows Catalog'. A do-nothing MFC app (MFC 7.1) causes a number of errors in the Obsolete API category... but that's only a hint of the fun that's about to start. I tried running a non-trivial app with this joke of a test tool. It wouldn't run at all - but not because it failed a compatibility test (no test other than the obsolete API was selected, and the app uses none, except those included in the MFC code). Experiments indicate the reason it wouldn't run is that a folder in the path, and the app name itself, have spaces in them. The 'tool', if one was to so glorify this piece of puke, is apparently unable to deal with this test of programming skills. But wait - that's only the start. Since the failed attempt to run said app under the Compatibility ANALyzer, it now won't run at all. Apparently a registry/system modification is made by the ANALyzer such that all attempts to run said app will log ANALyzer data. But since the ANALyzer is incapable of dealing with a space in the path, it is now impossible to run said app at all - either through the VS.NET 2003 IDE, or even by double clicking the file in Windows Explorer. I removed the app entry from the ANALyzer's list, to no avail. I've uninstalled the ANALyzer and the modifications remain in place. I've searched the likely locations in the registry to try and find the offending entry, with no luck. So not only does the tool not work for s$&t, it now prevents me from (apparently) ever running that app/working on that project again, unless (it seems) I re-format my HD and re-install everything. Oh yeah, I'm going to try that again! Ask me if I f#$%*&g care about inclusion in the goddamn Windows f^^&$#g Catalog!!! At this point, I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux.

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                                  Todd C Wilson
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                                  Pissing and moaning about Microsoft here is akin to bitching about GWB in a public setting - you're going to get assaulted and probably censored. Remember, your problems are your obviously own making, and never consider that Microsoft is anything but the best. But as usual, the fine folks here miss the whole point of your story, in that the product that ships as part of the development tool and is touted as a feature has totaly screwed up by *not* following the design guidelines in regards to spaces in filenames, and has additional modified your registry settings so that your program can no longer operate. Again, it's much more fun and worthwhile to punish you verbally. Your manager has been notified, and it will go in your permanent record. The fix, aside from deleting this program, is to modify the registry and remove the setting for the specific application name that you're developing that is causing this problem. You might also want to consider making image backups of your system, and in addition, purchase a registry monitering/backup tool that can do daily diffs.


                                  Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free: Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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                                    Psst....look up The Lounge is rated PG. If you're about to post something you wouldn't want your kid sister to read then don't post it. Good Luck with Linux, you've got a HUGE market there. BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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                                    Lost User
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                                    brianwelsch wrote: you've got a HUGE market there LOL! :laugh: Huge yes, but if it's of any use........ :-D Paul ;)

                                    I could put a quote here, but someone would just steal it.
                                    Murphy

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                                      If any MS buttheads are listening, go see if you can find the incompetent asshole responsible for the 'Windows XP Application Compatibility ANALyzer. This low-grade shareware quality piece of s&%t is supposed to test an app's readiness for inclusion in the 'Windows Catalog'. A do-nothing MFC app (MFC 7.1) causes a number of errors in the Obsolete API category... but that's only a hint of the fun that's about to start. I tried running a non-trivial app with this joke of a test tool. It wouldn't run at all - but not because it failed a compatibility test (no test other than the obsolete API was selected, and the app uses none, except those included in the MFC code). Experiments indicate the reason it wouldn't run is that a folder in the path, and the app name itself, have spaces in them. The 'tool', if one was to so glorify this piece of puke, is apparently unable to deal with this test of programming skills. But wait - that's only the start. Since the failed attempt to run said app under the Compatibility ANALyzer, it now won't run at all. Apparently a registry/system modification is made by the ANALyzer such that all attempts to run said app will log ANALyzer data. But since the ANALyzer is incapable of dealing with a space in the path, it is now impossible to run said app at all - either through the VS.NET 2003 IDE, or even by double clicking the file in Windows Explorer. I removed the app entry from the ANALyzer's list, to no avail. I've uninstalled the ANALyzer and the modifications remain in place. I've searched the likely locations in the registry to try and find the offending entry, with no luck. So not only does the tool not work for s$&t, it now prevents me from (apparently) ever running that app/working on that project again, unless (it seems) I re-format my HD and re-install everything. Oh yeah, I'm going to try that again! Ask me if I f#$%*&g care about inclusion in the goddamn Windows f^^&$#g Catalog!!! At this point, I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux.

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                                      Tim Ranker
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                                      Have you tried right-clicking the exe and checked to see if the compatibility mode under the compatibility tab has been changed by the tool? You can reset the compatibility mode to see if the app will work again. Good luck!

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                                        If any MS buttheads are listening, go see if you can find the incompetent asshole responsible for the 'Windows XP Application Compatibility ANALyzer. This low-grade shareware quality piece of s&%t is supposed to test an app's readiness for inclusion in the 'Windows Catalog'. A do-nothing MFC app (MFC 7.1) causes a number of errors in the Obsolete API category... but that's only a hint of the fun that's about to start. I tried running a non-trivial app with this joke of a test tool. It wouldn't run at all - but not because it failed a compatibility test (no test other than the obsolete API was selected, and the app uses none, except those included in the MFC code). Experiments indicate the reason it wouldn't run is that a folder in the path, and the app name itself, have spaces in them. The 'tool', if one was to so glorify this piece of puke, is apparently unable to deal with this test of programming skills. But wait - that's only the start. Since the failed attempt to run said app under the Compatibility ANALyzer, it now won't run at all. Apparently a registry/system modification is made by the ANALyzer such that all attempts to run said app will log ANALyzer data. But since the ANALyzer is incapable of dealing with a space in the path, it is now impossible to run said app at all - either through the VS.NET 2003 IDE, or even by double clicking the file in Windows Explorer. I removed the app entry from the ANALyzer's list, to no avail. I've uninstalled the ANALyzer and the modifications remain in place. I've searched the likely locations in the registry to try and find the offending entry, with no luck. So not only does the tool not work for s$&t, it now prevents me from (apparently) ever running that app/working on that project again, unless (it seems) I re-format my HD and re-install everything. Oh yeah, I'm going to try that again! Ask me if I f#$%*&g care about inclusion in the goddamn Windows f^^&$#g Catalog!!! At this point, I'm about ready to return the new Visual Studio, Windows XP Pro and every other f&*(@#g thing I've bought from Bill's bunch of boneheads in the last 6 months and begin developing for Linux.

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                                        Jeffster
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                                        This guy has a point if the ANALyzer doesn't work and they kill MFC then we will all be VB programmers for 20$/hr.

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                                          Pissing and moaning about Microsoft here is akin to bitching about GWB in a public setting - you're going to get assaulted and probably censored. Remember, your problems are your obviously own making, and never consider that Microsoft is anything but the best. But as usual, the fine folks here miss the whole point of your story, in that the product that ships as part of the development tool and is touted as a feature has totaly screwed up by *not* following the design guidelines in regards to spaces in filenames, and has additional modified your registry settings so that your program can no longer operate. Again, it's much more fun and worthwhile to punish you verbally. Your manager has been notified, and it will go in your permanent record. The fix, aside from deleting this program, is to modify the registry and remove the setting for the specific application name that you're developing that is causing this problem. You might also want to consider making image backups of your system, and in addition, purchase a registry monitering/backup tool that can do daily diffs.


                                          Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free: Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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                                          He would have gotten a better reception if either A) he moved it to the Soapbox, or B)Kept his anger in check long enough to make people even want to read his post thoroughly, let alone possibly offer up advice for the situation. Todd C. Wilson wrote: But as usual, the fine folks here miss the whole point of your story Well, this will happen to us blind sheep. Bii-i-i-ihhlll (read as Baa-a-aaah) ;) BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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