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  • M Maximilien

    part of GUI design can be considered an art, the color palette, the bitmap creation, but a good GUI can also be designed by specialists that have understanding of psychology and ergonomics.


    Maximilien Lincourt "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with backup tapes." ("Computer Networks" by Andrew S Tannenbaum )

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    Gary Kirkham
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    I agree, but you can't seperate the two...a well designed, functional, GUI that looks like two year old did the art work (or it looks like a VB app) will probably not sell.:) Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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      hello there, I'd like your opinion on this: can programming be considered as art? Callixte http://www.callixte.org[^]

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      brianwelsch
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      it's art, but the artist only has as much freedom to be creative as the user allows. Even within that constraint, though, the programmer's style can show through in the code. it's science in the way that chemistry is involved with making paint. Science is based more on physical laws. This applies on a hardware level, but not so much for software these days. BW "In a world full of people, only some want to fly,Isn't that crazy?" - Seal

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        hello there, I'd like your opinion on this: can programming be considered as art? Callixte http://www.callixte.org[^]

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        Lost User
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        In software there is the science, then the art. This is how good engineering works :cool: Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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        • C Callixte

          hello there, I'd like your opinion on this: can programming be considered as art? Callixte http://www.callixte.org[^]

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          Navin
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          Yes, but not VB programming. "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein

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          • B BadJerry

            Would programming in VB be compared to Damian Hirst?

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            Lost User
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            MEOW ! Care to borrow my claws ? :laugh: The tigress is here :-D

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              hello there, I'd like your opinion on this: can programming be considered as art? Callixte http://www.callixte.org[^]

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              Navin
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              I would consider design (not just GUI design, any program design) as more of an art, whereas the actual code is more of a science. Code written to a design either works or it doesn't, and you can quantify whether one block of code is more efficient, or faster, or smaller, etc. Quantifying program design, however, is more difficult, it is much more subjective. "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein

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              • C Callixte

                hello there, I'd like your opinion on this: can programming be considered as art? Callixte http://www.callixte.org[^]

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                Chris Losinger
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                it is a craft. it can be difficult, time consuming, and can require a skilled hand to get everything just right. it can be dazzling to look upon a well-done piece of code and recognize the skill required to come up with it. but, the typical program fails one crucial test (whether in source or running as an EXE): it does not convey emotion. sure, you can code up something to render an animation that could pass as "art", but that's just a digital version of hand-drawn animation; the dynamic_cast and do (...) while are not the artistic part - the animation (the story, the characters, the layout) is. so, programming, much like a paint brush, is not an art, but it can be a way to achieve art. CheeseWeasle

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                • G Gary Kirkham

                  I agree, but you can't seperate the two...a well designed, functional, GUI that looks like two year old did the art work (or it looks like a VB app) will probably not sell.:) Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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                  Maximilien
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                  agreed, we can't separate the two, but, what is easier, making a GUI look good or making a GUI that work best. The problem when designing GUI is trying to get good specifications and requirements, and approving the design as early as possible. I face this problem about every couple months since I started programming, cosmetic UI changes that took away valuable time that I could have spent on programming the application.


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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    it is a craft. it can be difficult, time consuming, and can require a skilled hand to get everything just right. it can be dazzling to look upon a well-done piece of code and recognize the skill required to come up with it. but, the typical program fails one crucial test (whether in source or running as an EXE): it does not convey emotion. sure, you can code up something to render an animation that could pass as "art", but that's just a digital version of hand-drawn animation; the dynamic_cast and do (...) while are not the artistic part - the animation (the story, the characters, the layout) is. so, programming, much like a paint brush, is not an art, but it can be a way to achieve art. CheeseWeasle

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                    Matt Gullett
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                    Chris Losinger wrote: it does not convey emotion. Have you seend a BSOD lately? It clearly conveys emotion, on both sides of the screen.;)

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                    • B BadJerry

                      Would programming in VB be compared to Damian Hirst?

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                      NormDroid
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                      You don't programing in VB you only script, whereas C++ you actually sculpt.

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                      • C Callixte

                        hello there, I'd like your opinion on this: can programming be considered as art? Callixte http://www.callixte.org[^]

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                        If the ancient greeks were programmers, I think you'd find they wouldn't even make that sort of distinction. The greek word "technos" (our root for technology) basically meant "art" and "skill". Go read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintanence :-) -- Ian Darling If I was any more loopy, I'd be infinite.

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                        • C Callixte

                          hello there, I'd like your opinion on this: can programming be considered as art? Callixte http://www.callixte.org[^]

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          Callixte wrote: can programming be considered as art? In my opinion, No. Some programmers are indeed artists but that's a different point altogether. It's the same with singing. Some of the singers are truly artists, the rest are just lucky people who managed to trick poor stupid investors into bringing out their silly songs in an album :-) Nish


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                            it is a craft. it can be difficult, time consuming, and can require a skilled hand to get everything just right. it can be dazzling to look upon a well-done piece of code and recognize the skill required to come up with it. but, the typical program fails one crucial test (whether in source or running as an EXE): it does not convey emotion. sure, you can code up something to render an animation that could pass as "art", but that's just a digital version of hand-drawn animation; the dynamic_cast and do (...) while are not the artistic part - the animation (the story, the characters, the layout) is. so, programming, much like a paint brush, is not an art, but it can be a way to achieve art. CheeseWeasle

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                            Michael A Barnhart
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                            Good explaintion Chris. Just like a house painter is a craftsman and not an artist although some house painters can be artistic it is not a requirement. Same could be said for potters. Some just make bowls and some make works of art. "For as long as I can remember, I have had memories. Colin Mochrie."

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                              it is a craft. it can be difficult, time consuming, and can require a skilled hand to get everything just right. it can be dazzling to look upon a well-done piece of code and recognize the skill required to come up with it. but, the typical program fails one crucial test (whether in source or running as an EXE): it does not convey emotion. sure, you can code up something to render an animation that could pass as "art", but that's just a digital version of hand-drawn animation; the dynamic_cast and do (...) while are not the artistic part - the animation (the story, the characters, the layout) is. so, programming, much like a paint brush, is not an art, but it can be a way to achieve art. CheeseWeasle

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                              Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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                              but you could argue that we are digital artists, and the harddrive is our canvas. Another Post by NnamdiOnyeyiri l Website

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                                Callixte wrote: can programming be considered as art? In my opinion, No. Some programmers are indeed artists but that's a different point altogether. It's the same with singing. Some of the singers are truly artists, the rest are just lucky people who managed to trick poor stupid investors into bringing out their silly songs in an album :-) Nish


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                                Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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                                Nishant S wrote: silly songs in an album prime example. the cheeky girls. Another Post by NnamdiOnyeyiri l Website

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                                  it is a craft. it can be difficult, time consuming, and can require a skilled hand to get everything just right. it can be dazzling to look upon a well-done piece of code and recognize the skill required to come up with it. but, the typical program fails one crucial test (whether in source or running as an EXE): it does not convey emotion. sure, you can code up something to render an animation that could pass as "art", but that's just a digital version of hand-drawn animation; the dynamic_cast and do (...) while are not the artistic part - the animation (the story, the characters, the layout) is. so, programming, much like a paint brush, is not an art, but it can be a way to achieve art. CheeseWeasle

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                                  dandy72
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                                  > the typical program fails one crucial test (whether in source or running as > an EXE): it does not convey emotion. Believe me, when my programs fail a crucial test, they do convey emotions. :-D

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                                    Paul van der Walt wrote: Possibly, like maybe if you define your classes in the form of a haiku...... I actually tried that once through liberal use of #define. May have to have another go sometime, actually :-) -- Ian Darling If I was any more loopy, I'd be infinite.

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                                    I think I would like to see that. You have to post it here when you finish. Sounds like good article fodder. --Sig-- Adam Wimsatt www.liquidneon.com

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                                      If the ancient greeks were programmers, I think you'd find they wouldn't even make that sort of distinction. The greek word "technos" (our root for technology) basically meant "art" and "skill". Go read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintanence :-) -- Ian Darling If I was any more loopy, I'd be infinite.

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                                      Strangely enough it is currently on the pile of books to read should get round to it in the next couple of months. Any good? pseudonym67 Neural Dot Net Articles 1-11 Start Here[^] Fuzzy Dot Net Articles 1-3 Start Here[^]

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                                        hello there, I'd like your opinion on this: can programming be considered as art? Callixte http://www.callixte.org[^]

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                                        Roger Wright
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                                        Programming is probably not an art, as there are established techniques for doing certain tasks. Software design, on the other hand, is definitely as much an art as a science. It takes a great deal of knowledge, ingenuity, and creativity to craft a product design to fulfill a need or solve a problem in an elegant and efficient manner. While most designs are not artistic, being thrown together on the fly or repetitions of the way similar things have been done in the past, many are truly works of art.

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                                          Strangely enough it is currently on the pile of books to read should get round to it in the next couple of months. Any good? pseudonym67 Neural Dot Net Articles 1-11 Start Here[^] Fuzzy Dot Net Articles 1-3 Start Here[^]

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                                          Ian Darling
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                                          pseudonym67 wrote: Any good? Yes :-) I've got the pseudo-sequel to it (Lila, An Inquiry into Morals IIRC) on order. -- Ian Darling If I was any more loopy, I'd be infinite.

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