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    Today's FoxTrot[^] :laugh: -Nick Parker

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    Now i've definately done my fair share, but why does everyone always insult bill gates for writing an imperfect operating system. If you think you could do better, why do you have your salary, and not his? *.* cin >> knowledge;

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      :laugh: [edit] I seem to recall reading somewhere that the colour can be changed :) [/edit] Paul ;)

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      I think it's some sort of registry option, but I think it only works on 95/98/Me. "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein

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        ...but as much fun as an "all Bück Dich, all the time" nightclub must be, you may want to try a few others now and then, just to mix it up a bit... :rolleyes:

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        Vikram A Punathambekar
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        Having been around for nearly a year, I've noticed: You, Paul Watson and I seem to be the only ones who change the subject field when we reply. :rolleyes: :laugh: Vikram.


        The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence.- Dijkstra KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.

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          Now i've definately done my fair share, but why does everyone always insult bill gates for writing an imperfect operating system. If you think you could do better, why do you have your salary, and not his? *.* cin >> knowledge;

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          Ted Ferenc
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          It's called marketing/sales, it has nothing to do with the quality or otherwise of the product. It is where is software guys fail!


          If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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            Having been around for nearly a year, I've noticed: You, Paul Watson and I seem to be the only ones who change the subject field when we reply. :rolleyes: :laugh: Vikram.


            The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence.- Dijkstra KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.

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            Chris Losinger
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            Vikram Punathambekar wrote: You, Paul Watson and I seem to be the only ones who change the subject field when we reply you should really look harder. -c CheeseWeasle

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            • V Vikram A Punathambekar

              Having been around for nearly a year, I've noticed: You, Paul Watson and I seem to be the only ones who change the subject field when we reply. :rolleyes: :laugh: Vikram.


              The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence.- Dijkstra KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.

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              ;P ;P ;P Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. Oh and for those that ask programming questions in the lounge. Seek the truth here[^].

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                ;P ;P ;P Chris Meech "what makes CP different is the people and sense of community, things people will only discover if they join up and join in." Christian Graus Nov 14, 2002. Oh and for those that ask programming questions in the lounge. Seek the truth here[^].

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                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                ...since you made a good joke. :laugh: Vikram.


                The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence.- Dijkstra KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.

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                • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                  Having been around for nearly a year, I've noticed: You, Paul Watson and I seem to be the only ones who change the subject field when we reply. :rolleyes: :laugh: Vikram.


                  The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence.- Dijkstra KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.

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                  Rohit Sinha
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                  Remember my Cricket posts, when I used to annoy everyone by changing the title os the post to something Cricket related? BTW, Happy Independence Day! :cool:
                  Regards,

                  Rohit Sinha

                  Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                  - Mother Teresa

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                  • T Ted Ferenc

                    It's called marketing/sales, it has nothing to do with the quality or otherwise of the product. It is where is software guys fail!


                    If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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                    Tim Smith
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                    That is just a myth. If you look at the time when IE, Excel and Word took over, they where all getting better reviews than the other packages. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                    • T Ted Ferenc

                      It's called marketing/sales, it has nothing to do with the quality or otherwise of the product. It is where is software guys fail!


                      If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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                      peterchen
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                      Yes, people believing Windows has worse support for Hardware than Linux must be marketing, 'cause It can't be in the facts :cool:


                      "Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
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                      • R Rohit Sinha

                        Remember my Cricket posts, when I used to annoy everyone by changing the title os the post to something Cricket related? BTW, Happy Independence Day! :cool:
                        Regards,

                        Rohit Sinha

                        Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
                        - Mother Teresa

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                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                        Well, on second thoughts, I've started the greatest subject-changing exercise in CP history. :cool: Rohit  Sinha wrote: Happy Independence Day! Yup, Cheers! But why is Bob still naked? :| Vikram.


                        The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence.- Dijkstra KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.

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                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                          Having been around for nearly a year, I've noticed: You, Paul Watson and I seem to be the only ones who change the subject field when we reply. :rolleyes: :laugh: Vikram.


                          The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence.- Dijkstra KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.

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                          J Dunlap
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                          Me too, only I don't do it as often as you do.

                          "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
                          "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma Gandhi

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                          • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                            Well, on second thoughts, I've started the greatest subject-changing exercise in CP history. :cool: Rohit  Sinha wrote: Happy Independence Day! Yup, Cheers! But why is Bob still naked? :| Vikram.


                            The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence.- Dijkstra KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.

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                            Rohit Sinha
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                            Vikram Punathambekar wrote: But why is Bob still naked? Perhaps because it's still 14th at his place? ;)
                            Regards,

                            Rohit Sinha

                            Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person.
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                            • T Ted Ferenc

                              It's called marketing/sales, it has nothing to do with the quality or otherwise of the product. It is where is software guys fail!


                              If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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                              Popeye Doyle Murray
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                              Ted Ferenc wrote: It's called marketing/sales, it has nothing to do with the quality or otherwise of the product. It is where is software guys fail! If you think that is true, go and use WordPerfect or Lotus 123 for awhile. Oh, and use Paradox for your database. Delphi is a good product, you can write code in that. Oh, and in case you are thinking that MS rolled over OS/2 with marketing hype, then think about this... OS/2 had a bug that made it crash requiring a hard disk formatting and reinstallation (according to John Dvorak). How's that for a bug? You can do everything a normal computer user does without using any MS products (word processing, spreadsheet, email, contact management, database). Have fun!

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                                That is just a myth. If you look at the time when IE, Excel and Word took over, they where all getting better reviews than the other packages. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                                Ted Ferenc
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                                CP is is Up I can reply now! It's called marketing when you say to a magazine, "we want to advertise our new product in your magazine, our budget is 1,000,000 USD for the 1st month, and 500,000 for the next 11 months. Oh by the way would you mind reviewing it as well?" I used to work in the newspaper industry, a very good, obvious, example of this is in your free newspapers have a look at the articles and check if the compnay mentioned in the article has any adverts in the paper and how big are they wrt to the article? I don't want to criticise Excel, etc. just pointing out marketing strategies. :suss:


                                If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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                                • P Popeye Doyle Murray

                                  Ted Ferenc wrote: It's called marketing/sales, it has nothing to do with the quality or otherwise of the product. It is where is software guys fail! If you think that is true, go and use WordPerfect or Lotus 123 for awhile. Oh, and use Paradox for your database. Delphi is a good product, you can write code in that. Oh, and in case you are thinking that MS rolled over OS/2 with marketing hype, then think about this... OS/2 had a bug that made it crash requiring a hard disk formatting and reinstallation (according to John Dvorak). How's that for a bug? You can do everything a normal computer user does without using any MS products (word processing, spreadsheet, email, contact management, database). Have fun!

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                                  Ted Ferenc
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                                  I use Opera for surfing unless the site is non standard and OpenOffice. I was around when Worperfect, Lotus and dBase ruled. As we all know it is far easier to copy than to innovate, Microsoft's early attempts were bad, ever tried Windows 1.0? If you then give your products away "free" with each PC you get a user base, over the years you issue updates, for a fee of course, and eventually you can kill the opposition. But the opposition can and does aid this process a classic example was the British Motorbike industry. Also there was a saying in the early days "a release of MSDOS is not finished unless Lotus 123 crashes" which may or my not be true. Also which version of Windows would you say is totally secure and stable and how long has it taken to achieve this?


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                                    I use Opera for surfing unless the site is non standard and OpenOffice. I was around when Worperfect, Lotus and dBase ruled. As we all know it is far easier to copy than to innovate, Microsoft's early attempts were bad, ever tried Windows 1.0? If you then give your products away "free" with each PC you get a user base, over the years you issue updates, for a fee of course, and eventually you can kill the opposition. But the opposition can and does aid this process a classic example was the British Motorbike industry. Also there was a saying in the early days "a release of MSDOS is not finished unless Lotus 123 crashes" which may or my not be true. Also which version of Windows would you say is totally secure and stable and how long has it taken to achieve this?


                                    If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants. - Isaac Newton 1676

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                                    I strongly disagree. Wordperfect and Lotus ruled some time ago, but they couldn't catch up with Microsoft. Microsoft did not copy. Instead, those companies were so slow to copy MSs innovations! About Linux vs Windows: Well, this is a completely stupid discussion. Everybody have a taste. Personally, I never liked Linux. I use Linux for most of the time, however I still hate it. My Windows XP Prof. crashed only once for the last 2 months. However, my freaking Redhat Linux 9 crashes at least twice everyday. Also, it has been more than 1.5 years since I reinstalled Windows. Isn't this a quite good performance? I don't think that there are important security issues in WinXP. Even if there are some, I am using Norton Internet Security and I really dont care about the rest. Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com
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                                      I strongly disagree. Wordperfect and Lotus ruled some time ago, but they couldn't catch up with Microsoft. Microsoft did not copy. Instead, those companies were so slow to copy MSs innovations! About Linux vs Windows: Well, this is a completely stupid discussion. Everybody have a taste. Personally, I never liked Linux. I use Linux for most of the time, however I still hate it. My Windows XP Prof. crashed only once for the last 2 months. However, my freaking Redhat Linux 9 crashes at least twice everyday. Also, it has been more than 1.5 years since I reinstalled Windows. Isn't this a quite good performance? I don't think that there are important security issues in WinXP. Even if there are some, I am using Norton Internet Security and I really dont care about the rest. Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com
                                      "What we do in life echoes in eternity" - Gladiator
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                                      Ted Ferenc
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                                      Mustafa Demirhan wrote: About Linux vs Windows I agreee, I like Unix but no longer use it, as you say it is personal preference. We are getting into what came first the Chicken or the Egg discussion here. Lotus 123 was the reason lots of people bought their 1st PC in MSDOS days. All of us are influenced by marketing whether or not we realise it after all why do people buy bottled water when tap water is free and, arguably, is safer to drink? In the UK at least, tap water has to pass more tests that bottled. I remember being being Toronto when 98 was released and seeing the CN tower festooned with a 98 banner, this sort of marketing gets you noticed. In the early days I prefered to use CP/M, MSDOS was worse BUT it at least gave us a "standard" operating system to work to. Other companies did serously loose the plot, my comments were just to say that although you may have the worlds best mouse trap unless you market it properly no one will buy it.


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                                        ...but as much fun as an "all Bück Dich, all the time" nightclub must be, you may want to try a few others now and then, just to mix it up a bit... :rolleyes:

                                        Shog9

                                        Let your mercy spill / On all these burning hearts in hell If it be your will / To make us well...

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                                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                        :laugh: Did you know that pink has a calming effect on people? I saw a show in Discovery about it. Apparently they paint the rooms pink where they put arrested people to calm them down. And I think a pink screen of death would be better for a frustrated mind. :) -- Serial killers don't kill their boyfriends.

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